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dbInSouthCity wrote:As I said on Twitter there are 3 things that we can do to address 75% of downtown issues

1. Parking surface lots have to be staffed from 6pm to 2am

2. AirBNBs can only be allowed in building that’s staffed 24/7 that can address issues during the stay

3. Police officers not be allowed to stare at their phones as someone drives 75 down Tucker in front of them

Agree 100%. Do you know when will the city start the Tucker redo?


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^ I’d be surprised if it started this year

Looks like that brings YTD murders at 35. Assuming there are no others today that puts us on track for 140 for the year (198 total in 2021). Clearance rate has dropped from 78 to 67% in the past month but still far above previous years. 

First 3 months of 2022 homicide report 

2022: 35 
2021: 43 
-20% 
2022 has 1 "justifiable" homicide year to date not counted in the 35 total 
at this point in 2021 there was 5 justifiable homicides not counted in the 43 total.

 If counted its
 2022- 36 
2021- 48 
-25%

Any County stats? We're all one after all. Need to start posting homicides as follows:

City: xx
STL County: xx

I don't really know what to do with East Side numbers.

Things are never so bad that they can’t get worse.

Bullets damage buildings along Washington Avenue

https://fox2now.com/news/missouri/bulle ... on-avenue/

^Considering the same thing happened to several businesses in St. Charles a few days ago I think it's time businesses tired of this petition the governmental jurisdictions both have in common--our gun happy governor and state legislature. 

guns the never ending epidemic

Baltimore Jack wrote:^Considering the same thing happened to several businesses in St. Charles a few days ago I think it's time businesses tired of this petition the governmental jurisdictions both have in common--our gun happy governor and state legislature. 

While gun laws should certainly be strengthened, everyone knows firing a gun in this manner is bad behavior and unlawful.

downtown2007 wrote: ↑

Apr 01, 2022

Baltimore Jack wrote:^Considering the same thing happened to several businesses in St. Charles a few days ago I think it's time businesses tired of this petition the governmental jurisdictions both have in common--our gun happy governor and state legislature. 

While gun laws should certainly be strengthened, everyone knows firing a gun in this manner is bad behavior and unlawful.

Which is exactly why gun safety laws would prevent a lot of this.  When the current law is no laws and everyone can carry a gun around and its a legal until they commit a unlawful act its kinda hard to stop it. 

Question:  Would this violate 2nd Amendment?  Does the right to bear arms include the right to post-firing anonymity?
1.  All current gun laws would stay in effect -- namely anyone can own and carry a gun unregistered.  Nothing stops the gun from firing as usual anytime the trigger is pulled.  
2. But state or feds pass a law requiring that each new gun include new tech that preserves data only if the gun is fired.  (No private data about the gun or the owner is preserved in the gun or transmitted UNLESS the gun is fired.)
3. Tech includes rolling video that, once the gun is fired, preserves pre-firing previous 60 seconds and post-firing 60 seconds of the target and back at the shooter.  The video is frozen and saved in the gun only after the gun is fired.
4. The 2 minutes of video is transmitted over 5G to police as well as being stored in the gun only if the gun is fired.  Along with GPS lat lon coordinates.  Also gun info such as serial number, type of gun, manufacturer, time of firing, etc.  ONLY if the gun is fired.
5. A tiny amount of colored ink is sprayed onto the shooters hand only if the gun is fired.
6. Finger print from gun handle and trigger is automatically preserved in the gun and transmitted -- again only if the gun is fired.
7. Post firing tech features turn on anytime it detects the gun is in motion, powered by batteries.
8. Gun keeps data for 24 hours and then resets the tech.
9. Owner of any gun found to not have the post-firing tech in their gun as required by law would get a fine or jail time.

Other:
Is there video tech that could accurately distinguish between a child's face and an adult's face?

gary kreie wrote: ↑

Apr 01, 2022

Question:  Would this violate 2nd Amendment?  Does the right to bear arms include the right to post-firing anonymity?
1.  All current gun laws would stay in effect -- namely anyone can own and carry a gun unregistered.  Nothing stops the gun from firing as usual anytime the trigger is pulled.  
2. But state or feds pass a law requiring that each new gun include new tech that preserves data only if the gun is fired.  (No private data about the gun or the owner is preserved in the gun or transmitted UNLESS the gun is fired.)
3. Tech includes rolling video that, once the gun us fired, preserves pre-firing previous 60 seconds and post-firing 60 seconds of the target and back at the shooter.  The video is frozen and saved in the gun only after the gun is fired.
4. The 2 minutes of video is transmitted over 5G to police as well as being stored in the gun only if the gun is fired.  Along with GPS lat lon coordinates.  Also gun info such as serial number, type of gun, manufacturer, time of firing, etc.  ONLY if the gun is fired.
5. A tiny amount of colored ink is sprayed onto the shooters hand only if the gun is fired.
6. Finger print from gun handle and trigger is automatically preserved in the gun and transmitted -- again only if the gun is fired.
7. Post firing tech features turn on anytime it detects the gun is in motion, powered by batteries.
8. Gun keeps data for 24 hours and then resets the tech.
9. Owner of any gun found to not have the post-firing tech in their gun as required by law would get a fine or jail time.

Other:
Is there video tech that could accurately distinguish between a child's face and an adult's face?

There are a lot of things we could be doing better, but unfortunately we need to consider not only would something fit within the constraints of the 2nd amendment, but also what is politically feasible and considering the current US Senate and the entirety of the state government I can't see anyone that can improve things even taking the effort to try to look for a solution

I don't know how you make tech like this that wouldn't be cumbersome for a gun handler. 

I'm not a gun guy, and I'd love to see something like this, but I also think you'd still have gun people go absolutely ballistic about this proposal. The NRA would throw more money at lobbyists than ever before. 

I mean this country has existed from 1776 all the way to 2008 when it was ruled that individuals have a right to bear arms outside a militia (Heller vs DC case) so for 95% of this countries existence there was no reasonable thought that anyone can have a gun.  Even the heller decision said  right to bear arms is not unlimited and that guns and gun ownership would continue to be regulated

So constitutional we can do whatever on guns, that’s not a roadblock, one party and their sugar daddies is the roadblock.

gary kreie wrote: ↑

Apr 01, 2022

Question:  Would this violate 2nd Amendment?  Does the right to bear arms include the right to post-firing anonymity?
1.  All current gun laws would stay in effect -- namely anyone can own and carry a gun unregistered.  Nothing stops the gun from firing as usual anytime the trigger is pulled.  
2. But state or feds pass a law requiring that each new gun include new tech that preserves data only if the gun is fired.  (No private data about the gun or the owner is preserved in the gun or transmitted UNLESS the gun is fired.)
3. Tech includes rolling video that, once the gun is fired, preserves pre-firing previous 60 seconds and post-firing 60 seconds of the target and back at the shooter.  The video is frozen and saved in the gun only after the gun is fired.
4. The 2 minutes of video is transmitted over 5G to police as well as being stored in the gun only if the gun is fired.  Along with GPS lat lon coordinates.  Also gun info such as serial number, type of gun, manufacturer, time of firing, etc.  ONLY if the gun is fired.
5. A tiny amount of colored ink is sprayed onto the shooters hand only if the gun is fired.
6. Finger print from gun handle and trigger is automatically preserved in the gun and transmitted -- again only if the gun is fired.
7. Post firing tech features turn on anytime it detects the gun is in motion, powered by batteries.
8. Gun keeps data for 24 hours and then resets the tech.
9. Owner of any gun found to not have the post-firing tech in their gun as required by law would get a fine or jail time.

Other:
Is there video tech that could accurately distinguish between a child's face and an adult's face?

I get it's theoretical, but how would this work if folks are shooting at targets at a gun range? Arnold police start receiving hours of video and folks walk out with ink all over? Or even if they shoot at targets on their private property in the woods?

Good question.  Well, for one thing if the police were inundated with data geocoded with the lat lon of a gun range, they should be able to filter that out real time.  Also, I would hope today's video SW could filter out any data where the target looked like say a big bullseye or even a can on a post in fast post-download processing.  

It will never be perfect but might make someone think twice about shooting in the first place.  And help with all the unsolved murder cases.  If you just have a gun for the protection of your family or hunting, I don't know why you would object to this.  It could help find stolen guns used in crimes.

And if you plan to overthrow the government with your gun, it would be no more revealing than all the video of Jan 6th already being used to prosecute insurrectionists.

^ there's all kinds of tech that could be applied for gun safety. biometric technology has been available for years. the gun lobby won't allow it because it would cut into their profits.

Plans for smart guns from two gun manufacturers were announced earlier this year (Smart guns finally arriving in U.S., seeking to shake up firearms market), though similar attempts have failed to take off in the past, and the models discussed in the article don't seem to have been widely tested or subjected to hacking attempts yet.

It will be interesting to see if there is any market for this. It could cut down on accidental shootings (child finds an unsecured gun in the house), suicides (again, if the person committing suicide was not an authorized user of the gun), and maybe gun thefts that are subsequently used for crime. They won't address many of our other gun problems, though, even if they get significant uptake.

If the technology is workable, I wonder if a trade-in policy would be explored to replace current guns with smart guns. Not sure who would be interested in funding it--can't see either the NRA or the Bloomberg group being enthused about the idea, especially without evidence it would do anything to lower gun crime rates.

Smart guns in the past were aimed at preventing unauthorized or accidental firing. But that spooked the 2nd amendmenters. “They’re trying to control our guns”. So I considered a smart gun that never inhibited its firing by anyone. It just documents by law in extreme detail who what and where the gun was fired, which is not protected by the 2nd amendment. Silencers are already illegal. This law would require gun shot noise and a ton more detail to be made available to police anytime a gun is fired. And hopefully reduce gun violence through prosecution.


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9-year-old boy, man wounded by gunfire in north St. Louis
The shooting Friday afternoon marks the the fourth time in just over a week that a child was injured or killed by gunfire in St. Louis.
https://www.ksdk.com/article/news/crime/man-child-shot-st-louis-friday/63-255f5a69-9f33-45e3-997b-8a48f8c2e821