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PostJan 05, 2022#8426

^ a family friend was shot in the face by a falling bullet a few New Years ago. very nearly lost her eye—went into her cheek just below.

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PostJan 05, 2022#8427

Didn't a politician in another country just die after celebrating an election victory by shooting guns into the air?

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PostJan 08, 2022#8429

Thought I'd put this here. Detroit isn't in the Top 10 anymore. As we know, St. Louis fell down the list a few notches.

Analysis: Jackson’s rate of killings per capita ranks highest in the U.S.
Ranking City Homicides for Year Rate Per Capita
1 JACKSON 153 99.5
2 LOUISVILLE, KY 188 (updated 1/1) 76.4
3 BIRMINGHAM 132 (updated 1/1) 65.8
4 ST. LOUIS 194 (updated 1/1) 64.3
5 BALTIMORE 337 57.5
6 NEW ORLEANS 218 (updated 1/1) 56.8
7 MEMPHIS 342 (updated 1/1) 54
8 BATON ROUGE 121 (updated 1/1) 53.2
9 SHREVEPORT 86 45.8
10 CLEVELAND, OH 170 (updated 1/1) 45.6
https://www.wlbt.com/2022/01/01/analysi ... ighest-us/

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PostJan 08, 2022#8431

StlToday - Homicides fall 26% to pre-COVID levels in St. Louis; St. Louis County police see increase
Meanwhile, St. Louis County police — the area’s next-largest law enforcement agency — investigated about 28% more murders last year within the department’s jurisdiction, which covers more than a third of the county. The 55 killings marked the most in the county police jurisdiction since at least 1984, according to department and FBI crime data.

St. Louis County police Sgt. John Wall, of the robbery and homicide investigations unit, said personal feuds, domestic killings and the prevalence of guns may be driving that trend.
 
“There’s parts of North County where just about everybody over 12 has access to a gun,” Wall said. “So that’s part of the problem.”

Comprehensive law enforcement data on homicides for the entire county is not available, as many of the more than 55 police agencies in the county have not submitted final totals to the Missouri Highway Patrol, which compiles the state’s crime stats.
 
But there were at least 89 killings in the county in 2021, according to the St. Louis Post-Dispatch’s homicide tracker, which launched online this week and is derived from news coverage of killings in the region.

That compares with 114 murders reported countywide in 2020, and an average of 78 annually in the five years before that, according to Missouri Highway Patrol police data.
https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/cri ... ed9c6.html

PostJan 08, 2022#8432

Wow, is anyone else surprised the national clearance rate is so low? There are murders that haven't had much time to be solved of course.
City police had a clearance rate of 55% last year. That puts St. Louis on par with the national average of about 54% of homicide cases cleared, according to FBI statistics. In 2020, the city’s rate was just 36%.

Clearance rates divide the number of homicides in a year by the cases cleared that year, regardless of what year the solved cases occurred. That means the high number of unsolved homicides in 2020 could contribute to the higher clearance rate in 2021.

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PostJan 09, 2022#8433

quincunx wrote:
Jan 08, 2022
But there were at least 89 killings in the county in 2021, according to the St. Louis Post-Dispatch’s homicide tracker, which launched online this week and is derived from news coverage of killings in the region.

That compares with 114 murders reported countywide in 2020, and an average of 78 annually in the five years before that, according to Missouri Highway Patrol police data.
https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/cri ... ed9c6.html[/quote]
Can't find it at the moment, but I recall a study that found the reason for the homicide "surge" in 2020 was that the EMS was so overwhelmed from COVID that people needing ambulances for gunshot wounds were just left to die instead of getting to the hospital, so a bunch of "attempted murder" became "murder" in the stats.

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PostJan 09, 2022#8434

Well there is the theory that a big driver of the decline in homicides in the 2000s is people gaining experience treating shrapnel wounds in soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan advancing treatment procedures stateside, leading to more shooting victims surviving their wounds.

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PostJan 09, 2022#8435

Memphis had 342 murders last year?

Holy sh*t.

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PostJan 12, 2022#8436

Forgot to post the YE chart. January looking good already - 3 through 11 days. 
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PostJan 12, 2022#8437

North Patrol, while still the majority of homicides, 2021 was the lowest number since 2018. South patrol also at its lowest since 2018. I’ll be even more convinced leadership and nonprofit initiatives are working if that number drops even further in 2022.

Central Patrol still has room for improvement also.


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PostJan 12, 2022#8438

 "Police called for backup after a shooting at a gas station in downtown St. Louis. The “Officer in need of aid” call went out at around 11:00 am today and that typically brings a massive police presence to the scene.

Someone was shot at near the intersection of North Tucker and Convention Plaza, according to police. The shooting may have occurred at the nearby Shell gas station. Many people fled the scene. Witnesses tell FOX 2 reporter Kelley Hoskins that there was an attempted carjacking at the gas station. The victim pulled out a weapon and fired multiple shots. The suspects fled on Tucker and crashed."



https://fox2now.com/news/missouri/st-lo ... s-station/

PostJan 12, 2022#8439

OK, I'm confused. The date on the above story was today, but I can't find any other info about it. Is this actually old news?  

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PostJan 13, 2022#8440

framer wrote:
Jan 12, 2022
OK, I'm confused. The date on the above story was today, but I can't find any other info about it. Is this actually old news?  
This did happen today, (I saw the aftermath of the car wreck), but there isn't a whole lot of news out there about what happened. According to the link below, there were no injuries from the initiating event at the gas station.

https://www.kmov.com/news/arrest-made-a ... _id=677763

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PostJan 13, 2022#8441

The Shell station you say? I don't believe it!

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PostJan 13, 2022#8442

Well there were 4 homicides in the past 24 hours rising from 3 to 7 they must of found out they were behind


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PostJan 13, 2022#8443

Ebsy wrote:
Jan 13, 2022
The Shell station you say? I don't believe it!
Why dose the city not crack down on nuisance properties?  The shell station needs to but shutdown it just puzzles me how the city tolerates such places in high profile places.    

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PostJan 13, 2022#8444

Thatguy644 wrote:
Jan 13, 2022
Ebsy wrote:
Jan 13, 2022
The Shell station you say? I don't believe it!
Why dose the city not crack down on nuisance properties?  The shell station needs to but shutdown it just puzzles me how the city tolerates such places in high profile places.    
I don’t know how you can punish a gas station just because it’s located next to a homeless shelter and a homeless center, who than lurk around the station and meet dealers there.

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PostJan 13, 2022#8445

Thatguy644 wrote:
Jan 13, 2022
Ebsy wrote:
Jan 13, 2022
The Shell station you say? I don't believe it!
Why dose the city not crack down on nuisance properties?  The shell station needs to but shutdown it just puzzles me how the city tolerates such places in high profile places.    
Maybe we should crack down on not providing stable housing to residents.

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PostJan 13, 2022#8446

I knew I shouldn't have said January was looking good... jinxed it... (sigh)

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PostJan 13, 2022#8447

framer wrote:
Jan 12, 2022
 "Police called for backup after a shooting at a gas station in downtown St. Louis. The “Officer in need of aid” call went out at around 11:00 am today and that typically brings a massive police presence to the scene.

Someone was shot at near the intersection of North Tucker and Convention Plaza, according to police. The shooting may have occurred at the nearby Shell gas station. Many people fled the scene. Witnesses tell FOX 2 reporter Kelley Hoskins that there was an attempted carjacking at the gas station. The victim pulled out a weapon and fired multiple shots. The suspects fled on Tucker and crashed."



https://fox2now.com/news/missouri/st-lo ... s-station/
The accident was a few blocks away from the Shell station - Washington Ave. between 10th & 11th. I used to live in what is now the Dorsa Lofts (before it was the Dorsa Lofts, almost 20 years ago) - that car overturned on the sidewalk is right in front of my old building (1015 Washington).

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PostJan 13, 2022#8448

I agree that the Shell is a nuisance. I don't even like to walk past it, having seen shots being fired more than once.

But the majority of gas stations, liquor stores and quick-marts that are in or anywhere near bad neighborhoods are nuisances (not saying downtown is a bad neighborhood, but Carr/Columbus Square is right there).

The station at 13th and Cass, has had multiple homicides in the past couple years. The ones at Chouteau/Broadway aren't great. The one at 14th and Chouteau is bad.

A significant percentage of homicides seem to happen at gas stations and liquor stores.

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PostJan 18, 2022#8449

$2500/month for this:
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PostJan 18, 2022#8450

This happens far too often downtown. Almost on a weekly basis it seems. As I explained earlier in this thread, that’s why it’s hard to convince people crime is down with stats. These are real events and people GTFO of dodge when it happens.

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