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PostOct 17, 2021#2301

^What I figured too.

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PostOct 21, 2021#2302

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^LOL the information was in the HTML of the page!!!  Viewing the info is as simple as viewing the page's source.

Yeah, that takes a serious "hacker" to obtain that information /s 
The electronic equivalent of posting fliers with people's SSNs printed on the back and then suing people for reading them.

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PostOct 21, 2021#2303

Don't give them any ideas, please.

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PostOct 26, 2021#2304

Here's an article on phys.org about a breakthrough in the next generation of flexible LEDs pioneered by researchers at at the McKelvey School of Engineering at Washington University:

Stretchy, bendy, flexible LEDs

-RBB

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PostOct 28, 2021#2305

Lester Holt will anchor a St. Louis focused NBC Nightly News broadcast from St. Louis this coming Tuesday:
https://www.ksdk.com/article/news/local ... h5Lh9bu-FI

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PostNov 01, 2021#2306

They are going to Austin Monday. I fear they will play up the wonders of Austin with SXSW, music, & Elon Musk moving there etc. Then when they get to St Louis it all be about only the City and how it is crippled by poverty and crime, reinforcing the normal national media conventional wisdom and stereotype and again painting the whole region as hopelessly broken and unrepairable. We need Lester to talk about Cortex, low crime suburbs, abundant fresh water, etc and not just another feel good story about how someone climbed out of this horrible place to become successful.


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PostNov 01, 2021#2307

^ The story indicates that the focus is response to covid

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PostNov 01, 2021#2308

^ In which case, they'll likely talk about: 
1. Pfizer's operations in Chesterfield, where the vaccines go through their first phase of manufacturing. 
2. The not-just-local phenomenon of "city vs. rural" vaccine acceptance, i.e. STL County rates vs. Warren County rates. 
3. Chaos at the STL County Council meetings when the anti-vaxx people get on their soapboxes to vent conspiracies. 

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PostNov 01, 2021#2309

I’ll be happily surprised if they mention Pfizer. The Austin piece tonight started with high tech industry and a flyover of luxury new suburban homes. All about folks and companies moving there. A feel good piece about a successful food truck business by Hispanics. Then they mention tomorrow they will be in St Louis where there is a surge in violent crime. I’m not optimistic.


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PostNov 02, 2021#2310

The last thing St. Louis needs is Elon Musk or his ponzi schemes.

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PostNov 02, 2021#2311

Don’t worry, Nightly News audience is now 1/8 of the Tom Brokaw days…

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PostNov 02, 2021#2312

The Ill-Fated Idea to Move the Nation’s Capital to St. Louis

In the years after the Civil War, some wanted a new seat of government that would be closer to the geographic center of a growing nation

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/ ... 180977569/

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PostNov 02, 2021#2313

Wow.  Hard to imagine how that first part of the NBC Nightly News report could have done more to kill tourism and conventions in St. Louis.  I wonder how it would have gone if St. Louis City and County had merged to better match our crime stats with other cities.  At least then they wouldn't keep pinning the murder capital badge of shame on us over and over.  In any case, it might have been nice if NBC had done enough research to mentioned that, as a full metro area, St. Louis violent crime is below that of hot metros like Nashville, Indianapolis, and others.  

Nice finish about the Arch itself at the end.  I'm glad they showed that you can go to the top, which surprises a lot of people.  But Lester still sort of spoke like a typical East Coaster visiting the Midwest as if it's a mystery how the middle of the country became part of America and what it's monuments could possibly mean.

Note that Austin city is about 900K, about 3 times the size of St. Louis City, but is spread out over 6 times the land area as St. Louis City.  Austin Metro is 2.2 million vs 2.8 million for St. Louis.  So Austin City is 40% of it's metro by population including a lot of low crime suburbs.  St. Louis City is 11% of our metro with no suburbs.  

Lester did that big story on the Pfizer vaccines for children and totally missed that he was just a few miles from where the first crucial step of the Pfizer vaccine is completed.  Also blew off that there might actually be tech, music, and luxury homes in the city and suburbs altogether -- compared to fawning over those things in Austin.  

Oh, well.  Most of what I feared.

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PostNov 03, 2021#2314

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Wow.  Hard to imagine how that first part of the NBC Nightly News report could have done more to kill tourism and conventions in St. Louis.  I wonder how it would have gone if St. Louis City and County had merged to better match our crime stats with other cities.  At least then they wouldn't keep pinning the murder capital badge of shame on us over and over.  In any case, it might have been nice if NBC had done enough research to mentioned that, as a full metro area, St. Louis violent crime is below that of hot metros like Nashville, Indianapolis, and others.  

Nice finish about the Arch itself at the end.  I'm glad they showed that you can go to the top, which surprises a lot of people.  But Lester still sort of spoke like a typical East Coaster visiting the Midwest as if it's a mystery how the middle of the country became part of America and what it's monuments could possibly mean.

Note that Austin city is about 900K, about 3 times the size of St. Louis City, but is spread out over 6 times the land area as St. Louis City.  Austin Metro is 2.2 million vs 2.8 million for St. Louis.  So Austin City is 40% of it's metro by population including a lot of low crime suburbs.  St. Louis City is 11% of our metro with no suburbs.  

Lester did that big story on the Pfizer vaccines for children and totally missed that he was just a few mile from where the first crucial step is completed.  Also blew off that there might actually be tech, music, and luxury homes in the city and suburbs altogether -- compared to fawning over those things in Austin.  

Oh, well.  Most of what I feared.
100% agree.

I think in the eyes of most mainstream electronic media, St. Louis is forever going to be presented as a crumbling criminal hellhole.  Even if it is booming, MSEM will find some way to make STL troubled. They love going over to East St Louis EVERYTIME in order to emphasize their crime reporting without reporting that East St, Louis is a whole different city in ILLINOIS. A lot of geographically-challenged Americans think ESTL is actually apart of St. Louis, Missouri and it is because of lazy reporting like this.  

Crime is a problem in every city. Big and small. Yet, I blame the producers of these not-so flattering unbalanced news segments.  Just because producers are a part of a major news outfits, it doesn't mean the producers aren't ignorant. And I believe that that STL, Baltimore, Detroit etc. are forever engrained as urban crime cities in their minds. They are literally in the midst/presence of MULTI-BILLIONS of dollars in construction and investments and all you report on is crime, day care struggles and the Gateway Arch? Where's the balance?

It doesn't help when idiots (whoever they are) are shooting in the background of a mayoral presentation.

With that said, ultimately I blame the St. Louis region for this. 

Regional leadership (Democrats/Republicans etc) is awful. And what happens in the city impacts the region. They just don't get it. 

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PostNov 03, 2021#2315

I also wish they had mentioned our homicides YTD are the lowest they have been since 2015 - and perhaps mention the efforts they spoke of could be helping.  It would have also been good to maybe highlight how our city homicide rates are calculated different than most cities due to the independent city distinction.

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PostNov 03, 2021#2316

I was wondering if the gunfire behind the mayor was a setup. Interesting it was so loud and close just when she was at the mic talking about crime. Sounds like something political enemies might arrange to embarrass her. Has the gunfire perpetrator been charged?


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PostNov 03, 2021#2317

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I also wish they had mentioned our homicides YTD are the lowest they have been since 2015 - and perhaps mention the efforts they spoke of could be helping.  It would have also been good to maybe highlight how our city homicide rates are calculated different than most cities due to the independent city distinction.
It's not that they aren't calculated differently. It's that the SLMPD has jurisdiction covers a small percentage of the region's population.

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PostNov 03, 2021#2318

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I also wish they had mentioned our homicides YTD are the lowest they have been since 2015 - and perhaps mention the efforts they spoke of could be helping.  It would have also been good to maybe highlight how our city homicide rates are calculated different than most cities due to the independent city distinction.
It's not that they aren't calculated differently. It's that the SLMPD has jurisdiction covers a small percentage of the region's population.
I should have been more clear.  The calculating differently means the crime stats are reported for counties, in which St. Louis is an independent city whereas other cities include suburban counterparts that are part of the county.  Jackson County in MO for KC, Cook County for Chicago, Shelby County for Memphis etc.  Our crime stats do not include St. Louis County.  It isn't the STLPD juridiction. 

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PostNov 03, 2021#2319

STLCityMike wrote:
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I also wish they had mentioned our homicides YTD are the lowest they have been since 2015 - and perhaps mention the efforts they spoke of could be helping.  It would have also been good to maybe highlight how our city homicide rates are calculated different than most cities due to the independent city distinction.
It's not that they aren't calculated differently. It's that the SLMPD has jurisdiction covers a small percentage of the region's population.
I should have been more clear.  The calculating differently means the crime stats are reported for counties, in which St. Louis is an independent city whereas other cities include suburban counterparts that are part of the county.  Jackson County in MO for KC, Cook County for Chicago, Shelby County for Memphis etc.  Our crime stats do not include St. Louis County.  It isn't the STLPD juridiction. 
In the most dangerous cities lists it's just the cities. If a city contains a greater portion of its region's population that is usually helpful. Or if the main city's police department has jurisdiction over a larger portion of the region's population, that is usually helpful.

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PostNov 03, 2021#2320

quincunx wrote:
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It's not that they aren't calculated differently. It's that the SLMPD has jurisdiction covers a small percentage of the region's population.
I should have been more clear.  The calculating differently means the crime stats are reported for counties, in which St. Louis is an independent city whereas other cities include suburban counterparts that are part of the county.  Jackson County in MO for KC, Cook County for Chicago, Shelby County for Memphis etc.  Our crime stats do not include St. Louis County.  It isn't the STLPD juridiction. 
In the most dangerous cities lists it's just the cities. If a city contains a greater portion of its region's population that is usually helpful.
So - you are saying they do not report the FBI crime stats?  This has been discussed extensively on social media sites and I have always read we are crippled by being an independent county, and also the reason people discuss the city moving into the county as another municipality.

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PostNov 03, 2021#2321

STLCityMike wrote:
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I should have been more clear.  The calculating differently means the crime stats are reported for counties, in which St. Louis is an independent city whereas other cities include suburban counterparts that are part of the county.  Jackson County in MO for KC, Cook County for Chicago, Shelby County for Memphis etc.  Our crime stats do not include St. Louis County.  It isn't the STLPD juridiction. 
In the most dangerous cities lists it's just the cities. If a city contains a greater portion of its region's population that is usually helpful.
So - you are saying they do not report the FBI crime stats?  This has been discussed extensively on social media sites and I have always read we are crippled by being an independent county, and also the reason people discuss the city moving into the county as another municipality.
It's by police department and what they have jurisdiction over. It's not that St. Louis is an independent city. It's that the SLMPD has jurisdiction over a small portion of the region. If the SLMPD, the County PD and the muni PDs merged, then the denominator would be 1.3M, regardless as to whether the munis merged or whether the city remained an independent city.

City reentry into the county does not help us on the most dangerous cities lists. Expanding the area and population of the SLMPD would.

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PostNov 03, 2021#2322

If it helps, I doubt that younger people, the ones we probably want to attract in the next few decades, are watching NBC nightly news.

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PostNov 03, 2021#2323

As usual not a great look for the city, but to be fair I don't know anybody else in my age group (mid 20s) who actually watches TV news.

Fortunately there is nothing this country likes more than an underdog story and the ability to be a part of something. STL is killing it behind the scenes right now, and once we get some key metrics (IE murders and population growth) moving in a positive direction and get Downtown in a better place watch out.

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PostNov 03, 2021#2324

^ I’m in my mid-30s and no one I know watches the nightly news.

I ended up forgetting about the NBC thing here and didn’t even watch it.

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PostNov 03, 2021#2325

Here's the episode

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