AmenLaife Fulk wrote:I couldn't disagree more. St. Louis has some serious problems and while its annoying that articles like this are written every day, the best way to see these stories disappear is to just fix the issues.KansasCitian wrote: ↑Aug 18, 2021Articles like the one above are easily the worst thing about St. Louis - and I'm talking about the article itself, not what it discusses.
These stories would not disappear if the problem were “fixed.” Sh*t talking St Louis is a pastime for St LouisansLaife Fulk wrote: ↑Aug 20, 2021I couldn't disagree more. St. Louis has some serious problems and while its annoying that articles like this are written every day, the best way to see these stories disappear is to just fix the issues.KansasCitian wrote: ↑Aug 18, 2021Articles like the one above are easily the worst thing about St. Louis - and I'm talking about the article itself, not what it discusses.
Agree! But as a transplant for work sometimes I asked myself if I did the right investment. I all for lets change the city for good! But leadership needs to step in. I think policing and dealing with the homeless should be worked on ASAP. What’s your opinion?KansasCitian wrote:The article clearly focuses on the negatives and portrays downtown as almost hopeless, when there are so many great things happening there, too.
Articles like this are a dime a dozen in St. Louis, and they do far more to hurt than help. It's just more click bait for dismissive suburban and exurban residents who never visit the city, anyway.
If St. Louisans focused on the positives half as much as they did the negatives, this city might actually be growing.
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I got to walk on 7th street can’t remember lol… But I’m with you with street calming, I think something as simple as speed bumps can fix a lot of the issues. Do you know if there a group of movement that brings all these ideas to the city or mayor directly?KansasCitian wrote:I think St. Louis should be aggressively investing in downtown in such a way that it promotes further development.
We need the 7th St steetscape improvements throughout the entire neighborhood, for instance. Downtown needs a lot of street calming.
I'm all for safety improvements, too - however that looks.
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Lol… You should drive in Puerto Ricos “vadenes” they’re the opposite of speed bumbs and you almost will leave your muffler in one of those!! But On a serious note speed bumps are needed. Even in DT Chicago you have them.dredger wrote:^ Yep, speed bumps will slow anything down. Still have nightmares of driving through a few Mexican villages where they take speed bumps to the extreme and wondering if i was going to be stuck leaving my father in law's car high and dry
i Second your opinion! I keep asking the same question over and over… Who do we talk to to present these ideas? Is there a Downtown group or group of residents to present this to the mayor and city? How can we push these viable ideas?GoHarvOrGoHome wrote:In an ideal would downtown would be mostly converted back to two way traffic, filled with separated bike lanes, traffic calming intersections, raised crosswalks, and strategic rising bollards to convert certain streets to part time pedestrian zones.
Unfortunately we don't have the money to do all of that in the near term. What we do have money for right now is speed bumps. If we put our mind to it we could add 100 speed bumps in and around downtown before winter. This is such a no brainer to me.
My guess would be to reach out to the different Aldermen in the Downtown area (Page, Ingrassia, Coatar, and Davis) as well as the Downtown CID. And then maybe in the same emails, CC people at the Streets Department and Scott Ogilvie. With all of these people, I'm sure someone will share the same concerns you have and will want to do something, just money is the issue here. It's worth a shot though.JJ Rivera wrote: ↑Aug 20, 2021i Second your opinion! I keep asking the same question over and over… Who do we talk to to present these ideas? Is there a Downtown group or group of residents to present this to the mayor and city? How can we push these viable ideas?GoHarvOrGoHome wrote:In an ideal would downtown would be mostly converted back to two way traffic, filled with separated bike lanes, traffic calming intersections, raised crosswalks, and strategic rising bollards to convert certain streets to part time pedestrian zones.
Unfortunately we don't have the money to do all of that in the near term. What we do have money for right now is speed bumps. If we put our mind to it we could add 100 speed bumps in and around downtown before winter. This is such a no brainer to me.
I’m going to try! I’m a transplant so I really want a return on my investment later on when I return home. Lol…chriss752 wrote:My guess would be to reach out to the different Aldermen in the Downtown area (Page, Ingrassia, Coatar, and Davis) as well as the Downtown CID. And then maybe in the same emails, CC people at the Streets Department and Scott Ogilvie. With all of these people, I'm sure someone will share the same concerns you have and will want to do something, just money is the issue here. It's worth a shot though.JJ Rivera wrote: ↑Aug 20, 2021i Second your opinion! I keep asking the same question over and over… Who do we talk to to present these ideas? Is there a Downtown group or group of residents to present this to the mayor and city? How can we push these viable ideas?GoHarvOrGoHome wrote:In an ideal would downtown would be mostly converted back to two way traffic, filled with separated bike lanes, traffic calming intersections, raised crosswalks, and strategic rising bollards to convert certain streets to part time pedestrian zones.
Unfortunately we don't have the money to do all of that in the near term. What we do have money for right now is speed bumps. If we put our mind to it we could add 100 speed bumps in and around downtown before winter. This is such a no brainer to me.
If you factor in the federal pandemic windfall, then they absolutely have the money. Problem is the people who control how the money is spent have a very long track record of doing it poorly.GoHarvOrGoHome wrote: ↑Aug 20, 2021In an ideal would downtown would be mostly converted back to two way traffic, filled with separated bike lanes, traffic calming intersections, raised crosswalks, and strategic rising bollards to convert certain streets to part time pedestrian zones.
Unfortunately we don't have the money to do all of that in the near term. What we do have money for right now is speed bumps. If we put our mind to it we could add 100 speed bumps in and around downtown before winter. This is such a no brainer to me.
"Policing and dealing with the homeless"JJ Rivera wrote: ↑Aug 20, 2021Agree! But as a transplant for work sometimes I asked myself if I did the right investment. I all for lets change the city for good! But leadership needs to step in. I think policing and dealing with the homeless should be worked on ASAP. What’s your opinion?KansasCitian wrote:The article clearly focuses on the negatives and portrays downtown as almost hopeless, when there are so many great things happening there, too.
Articles like this are a dime a dozen in St. Louis, and they do far more to hurt than help. It's just more click bait for dismissive suburban and exurban residents who never visit the city, anyway.
If St. Louisans focused on the positives half as much as they did the negatives, this city might actually be growing.
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Two different things!bwcrow1s wrote:"Policing and dealing with the homeless"JJ Rivera wrote: ↑Aug 20, 2021Agree! But as a transplant for work sometimes I asked myself if I did the right investment. I all for lets change the city for good! But leadership needs to step in. I think policing and dealing with the homeless should be worked on ASAP. What’s your opinion?KansasCitian wrote:The article clearly focuses on the negatives and portrays downtown as almost hopeless, when there are so many great things happening there, too.
Articles like this are a dime a dozen in St. Louis, and they do far more to hurt than help. It's just more click bait for dismissive suburban and exurban residents who never visit the city, anyway.
If St. Louisans focused on the positives half as much as they did the negatives, this city might actually be growing.
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Do you mean policing the homeless? Or policing, as a separate issue, and 'dealing' with the homeless as another?
I don’t blame them but the Alderman needs to make his case and do something to keep them! I do believe that businesses that have a history of problems the city should remove their alcohol licenses. I think that the problem is that this new administration was not ready for this role… I haven’t found a written plan and they seem as they’re improvising for everything.downtown2007 wrote:‘Large employers’ in downtown may leave due to crime, St. Louis alderman says
https://www.audacy.com/kmox/news/local/ ... e-to-crime
I've not heard much from the St. Louis Downtown Neighborhood Association lately but still might be worth a try: http://www.saintlouisdna.org/JJ Rivera wrote: ↑Aug 20, 2021Is there a Downtown group or group of residents to present this to the mayor and city?
They’ve hosted 2 forums with the mayor, one few weeks ago and are having regular monthly public meetings. The meetings with the mayor are on their FB page for viewingOnTheEdge wrote: ↑Aug 20, 2021I've not heard much from the St. Louis Downtown Neighborhood Association lately but still might be worth a try: http://www.saintlouisdna.org/JJ Rivera wrote: ↑Aug 20, 2021Is there a Downtown group or group of residents to present this to the mayor and city?
Thanks!OnTheEdge wrote:I've not heard much from the St. Louis Downtown Neighborhood Association lately but still might be worth a try: http://www.saintlouisdna.org/JJ Rivera wrote: ↑Aug 20, 2021Is there a Downtown group or group of residents to present this to the mayor and city?
Thanks!dbInSouthCity wrote:They’ve hosted 2 forums with the mayor, one few weeks ago and are having regular monthly public meetings. The meetings with the mayor are on their FB page for viewingOnTheEdge wrote: ↑Aug 20, 2021I've not heard much from the St. Louis Downtown Neighborhood Association lately but still might be worth a try: http://www.saintlouisdna.org/JJ Rivera wrote: ↑Aug 20, 2021Is there a Downtown group or group of residents to present this to the mayor and city?
How about policing with the homeless?!? Two birds, one stone...bwcrow1s wrote: ↑Aug 20, 2021"Policing and dealing with the homeless"
Do you mean policing the homeless? Or policing, as a separate issue, and 'dealing' with the homeless as another?
Whatever works I’m ok with it…urbanitas wrote:How about policing with the homeless?!? Two birds, one stone...bwcrow1s wrote: ↑Aug 20, 2021"Policing and dealing with the homeless"JJ Rivera wrote: ↑Aug 20, 2021Agree! But as a transplant for work sometimes I asked myself if I did the right investment. I all for lets change the city for good! But leadership needs to step in. I think policing and dealing with the homeless should be worked on ASAP. What’s your opinion?
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Do you mean policing the homeless? Or policing, as a separate issue, and 'dealing' with the homeless as another?
