urbanSTL

I find it odd that most here are bagging on the State government in Missouri, but every desired location outside of Colorado is run by the GOP(Texas, Florida, Georgia, Tennessee, Arizona, Utah, Idaho).  Missouri's govt is not drastically different than any of these and I would easily argue very much in line outside of a state income tax.  If state governments or specifically the GOP, why does Nashville grow while Memphis sits idle or regress?  

Why arent the problems of STL solved by STL?  Perhaps we should get our house in order before we cry to the state for help.  

*i am not advocating that Jeff City has done little to no favors for its greatest economic engine and population center.  But for STL to continue to use Jeff City as the scapegoat to its perils is foolish.  STL has a crime(perceived and real) issue and have fractionalism trademarked.  

^ kinda difficult for a poor, depopulating city to get its house in order while the state and the rest of the metro are actively working against it. the city has 10% of the metro population yet has to accommodate the entire region in terms of infrastructure and entertainment, culture, homeless services, employment, etc.

and then they're regularly playing political theater trying to outlaw thoughts about abortion or enforcement of gun laws instead of doing anything useful.

New 2nd Amendment Protections In Missouri Split Law Enforcement
https://www.npr.org/2021/06/28/1010320106/new-2nd-amendment-protections-in-missouri-split-law-enforcement

Missouri's new law imposes a $50,000 fine on any state or local official who enforces a federal gun law that's not also a Missouri law

and they don't even contribute to things like transportation that other GOP-led states have realized are important for economic growth:



Jeff. City's only concern is waging a culture war on the state's urban areas in order to pander to its disproportionately empowered rural voters. it's also pretty disingenuous to say that every desired location is in a red state just because a few sunbelt cities in red states have finally started growing a couple of centuries after everybody else.

urban_dilettante wrote: ↑

Jul 19, 2021

^ kinda difficult for a poor, depopulating city to get its house in order while the state and the rest of the metro are actively working against it. the city has 10% of the metro population yet has to accommodate the entire region in terms of infrastructure and entertainment, culture, homeless services, etc

and then they're regularly playing political theater with sh*t like this instead of doing anything useful:

New 2nd Amendment Protections In Missouri Split Law Enforcement
https://www.npr.org/2021/06/28/1010320106/new-2nd-amendment-protections-in-missouri-split-law-enforcement

Missouri's new law imposes a $50,000 fine on any state or local official who enforces a federal gun law that's not also a Missouri law

and they don't even contribute to things like transportation that other GOP-led states have realized are important for economic growth:



Jeff. City's only concern is waging a culture war on the states urban areas in order to pander to its disproportionately empowered rural voters. it's also pretty disingenuous to say that every desired location is in a red state just because a few sunbelt cities in red states have finally started growing a couple of centuries after everybody else.

I respectfully disagree with most of your post, but will leave without further derailing the thread.  

^ it's pretty straightforward.


https://www.economist.com/united-states/2021/05/06/many-states-are-pushing-through-more-permissive-gun-laws

pappysoulard wrote: ↑

Jul 19, 2021

I find it odd that most here are bagging on the State government in Missouri, but every desired location outside of Colorado is run by the GOP(Texas, Florida, Georgia, Tennessee, Arizona, Utah, Idaho).  Missouri's govt is not drastically different than any of these and I would easily argue very much in line outside of a state income tax.  If state governments or specifically the GOP, why does Nashville grow while Memphis sits idle or regress?  

Why arent the problems of STL solved by STL?  Perhaps we should get our house in order before we cry to the state for help.  

*i am not advocating that Jeff City has done little to no favors for its greatest economic engine and population center.  But for STL to continue to use Jeff City as the scapegoat to its perils is foolish.  STL has a crime(perceived and real) issue and have fractionalism trademarked.  

Uh, Georgia is a blue state 

Also, Washington, Oregon, California, New York, Virginia, Nevada, and Massachusetts are very desireable locations, and happen to be run by democrats. 

St Louis tries to help itself, and then Jeff City bans our efforts. Our perceived and real crime issues have been exacerbated by Jeff City. Remember in 2008 and 2009 when StL had fewer than 100 murders? What's changed since then? The legislature basically giving guns away to criminals. 

and let's not forget this gem:

The Missouri state House on Tuesday passed legislation to end the misdemeanor crime of giving guns to children without their parents’ permission...

https://apnews.com/article/shootings-michael-brown-mo-state-wire-gun-politics-police-reform-2047453d400445263f1e0012e96c18d1

Republican-led House revisited the policy over concerns that grandparents or other family members could currently be charged with a misdemeanor for taking kids shooting without permission.

These people don't live in reality

my last post about this. i promise. but the suggestion that St. Louis is somehow unaffected by the state's dysfunction and insanity just boggles my mind.

seriously, go read this thread. it's bat-sh*t crazy. this is MOLeg: https://twitter.com/LauraAnnSTL/status/1417176190549364742

Was going to say roughly what BellaVilla et al said, but I'll add that Nashville has one significant advantage over Memphis: the seat of government. Nashville IS Tennessee's Jeff City. So it can be Tennessee vs. scary urban areas rural Tennessee doesn't like without dramatically affecting Nashville.

The incredible MoLeg. These "republicans' can't repeal my income taxes but they've got time bully minorities and public servants. That Schroer is a real POS. I'd like to think that StL republicans wouldn't be as bad the rural republicans, but Schroer, Onder and Wieland are some of the cookiest fools in Jeff City

BellaVilla wrote: ↑

Jul 20, 2021

I'd like to think that StL republicans wouldn't be as bad the rural republicans, but Schroer, Onder and Wieland are some of the cookiest fools in Jeff City

3 murder cases dismissed bc our criminal in the CAO cannot run her department yet its the GOP in the statehouse keeping STL down.  On top of that, our elected official to congress is posting anti-Semitic rhetoric on twitter.  Such a great look for STL to be able to elect and handle its own problems.  

June Labor Force and Employment

2011 to 2021



2019 - 2021

Stltoday - Nicklaus: To meet hiring goals, St. Louis employers will need to cast a wider net

https://www.stltoday.com/business/subsc ... 37235.html

BLS non-farm was released this week.

1,347.3 non-farm employment. Around 98.4% of 2019 level and on-par with 2015.


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Nashville: above 2019
Kansas City: at 2019
Cincinnati: around 2016/2017
Chicago: around 2014
Cleveland: around 2011/2012
Pittsburgh: around 2009

Pretty good. Overall, 0.4 point improvement in seasonal numbers. Construction is up 2.2% over 2019. Leisure & hospitality still improving, a great clip upwards in July.

How to read:
If July number is greater (improved) over June, represents growth outside of anticipated seasonality.

If July number is lesser (weakened) over June, represents shrinking outside of anticipated seasonality.

Preface: I will post only St. Louis numbers now. If you wish to see how other cities are doing, request via a post and I can place them here or in a new thread for this sort of thing.


July Numbers Out

Labor Force around 2014 numbers. Labor Force declined 1.95% from July 2019 and down 1.13% year over year. I am a little surprised by the continued decline. 



Total Non-Farm Employment. Non-farm is around 2015 numbers. Down 3.5% from 2019 and up 3.65% year over year. 

StlToday - St. Louis hospitality sector still pleading for workers amid pandemic

https://www.stltoday.com/business/local ... 5435b.html

August Total Non-Farm Employment

1352.8 in August 2021 vs 1403.3 in August 2019

Slightly below 2015 numbers.

LF declined by almost 20,000 and Employment 14,000 from July to August. This follows the typical end of summer decline.

August 2021 vs August 2020. LF is down and Employment is up. 

https://www.bls.gov/eag/eag.mo_stlouis_msa.htm


August reports for the past 10 years (2011-2021)