Siteman Ambulatory Cancer Center (Forest Park & Taylor)

chriss752 · PostMay 08, 2021#12021-05-08T19:47+00:00

Construction could start this month on a 9-story Ambulatory Cancer Center at Forest Park and Taylor. It will include a 430 car parking garage, 5 floors of clinic space, one floor of office, and a connection to the Center for Advanced Medicine via the Link system.

2 lanes of Eastbound Forest Park Avenue will close this month and will be closed during the duration of construction (May 2021-April 2024). The building will open in 2024. The Lawrence Group and Perkins-Eastman are the architects on the projects. Clayco is the general contractor.

No renderings have been released yet, but WUSM's website features a massing/stacking plan. Based on this, the building is slightly taller than the Parkway Hotel and the North Building of the College of Pharmacy.

sc4mayor · PostMay 08, 2021#22021-05-08T20:05+00:00

Looking forward to seeing some renderings...will be nice to fill in the street wall a bit more here.

But really, another 400+ space garage? They could easily just connect right into the Euclid garage...

urban_dilettante · PostMay 08, 2021#32021-05-08T22:26+00:00

just based on the massing it's going to be absolutely terrible at street level, like most of their buildings. looks like mechanical at one corner, parking garage entrance at the other corner, and everything in between is a covered driveway.

chriss752 · PostMay 08, 2021#42021-05-08T23:19+00:00

I don’t expect this to look any different than the other buildings. Beige with blueish glass.

imran · PostMay 08, 2021#52021-05-08T23:27+00:00

Look! More TOD, next to metroli...... never mind.
It’s really just another garage pretending to be a building.

dbInSouthCity · PostMay 09, 2021#62021-05-09T01:16+00:00

I left WUSTL med in feb 2018 when we were planning this project and one of the biggest issues was how to slot this building here and not mess up dock access to STLCOP and I believe the final solution was some sort of underground shared space where trucks can get access to COP dock and be able to make full turn under there. Surprised the project stretched out this far. Other issues were it had to be x amount of feet from a surgery room to meet Medicare requirements, so that’s part of the location decision.

(Chris I believe it’s the Ambulatory Care Center)

chriss752 · PostMay 09, 2021#72021-05-09T01:18+00:00

dbInSouthCity wrote:I left WUSTL med in feb 2018 when we were planning this project and one of the biggest issues was how to slot this building here and not mess up dock access to STLCOP and I believe the final solution was some sort of underground shared space where trucks can get access to COP dock and be able to make full turn under there. Surprised the project stretched out this far. Other issues were it had to be x amount of feet from a surgery room to meet Medicare requirements, so that’s part of the location decision.

(Chris I believe it’s the Ambulatory Care Center)

They may have rebranded it since you were there. Ambulatory Care Center sounds better than Ambulatory Cancer Center.

https://planningprojects.med.wustl.edu/ ... er-center/

dbInSouthCity · PostMay 09, 2021#82021-05-09T21:50+00:00

Yeah looks like a few more things have changed, there were 2 first floor retail spaces at one point

urbanitas · PostMay 09, 2021#92021-05-09T21:58+00:00

dbInSouthCity wrote: ↑
May 09, 2021
Yeah looks like a few more things have changed, there were 2 first floor retail spaces at one point

No room for retail anymore, with all the curb cuts and driveways.

The color coding also suggests there is a ground floor clinic entrance and/or "storefront" on the Taylor side, but I am not seeing any reason why they couldn't swap everything, and put a porte cochere and garage access on the Taylor side, beyond that they probably just don't want their entrance on Forest Park Ave...

quincunx · PostMay 15, 2021#102021-05-15T16:04+00:00

The webpage for this is no longer found.

urban_dilettante · PostMay 15, 2021#112021-05-15T23:30+00:00

"ambulatory cancer" is right on the nose.

chriss752 · PostMay 16, 2021#122021-05-16T01:34+00:00

quincunx wrote: ↑
May 15, 2021
The webpage for this is no longer found.

Changed to Siteman Cancer Center
https://planningprojects.med.wustl.edu/ ... er-center/

urbanitas · PostMay 16, 2021#132021-05-16T02:12+00:00

So, I guess Perkins Eastman would be another potential architectural firm candidate for the hospital expansion/Queeny Tower replacement...

They also did McKelvey Hall on the Hilltop Campus.

SouthCityJR · PostMay 17, 2021#142021-05-17T18:13+00:00

So what will happen to the existing Siteman building? Isn’t that one of the newer buildings?

urbanitas · PostMay 18, 2021#152021-05-18T04:11+00:00

SouthCityJR wrote: ↑
May 17, 2021
So what will happen to the existing Siteman building? Isn’t that one of the newer buildings?

It seems the new building is geared more for easy access outpatient cancer care functions, which will open up more room for the existing state-of-the-art critical care hospital, i.e. surgery, advanced treatment, ICU and inpatient beds:

"The programs moving into the building include multi-disciplinary clinics, diagnostic and treatment areas and multi-specialty clinics."

Plus, I'm sure there's a strong psychological benefit to visiting "a clinic" for early-stage cancer diagnosis and treatment vs. "going to The Hospital" alongside some very sick and dying people, even if they are only a couple blocks away from each other.

SouthCityJR · PostMay 18, 2021#162021-05-18T14:37+00:00

^Thanks. That makes sense.

chriss752 · PostMay 22, 2021#172021-05-22T06:03+00:00

Clayco crews have been on site the past couple of days doing some pre-construction work. Geotechnical drills and some shipping containers are on site.

framer · PostMay 22, 2021#182021-05-22T12:00+00:00

Renderings please!

imran · PostMay 22, 2021#192021-05-22T12:34+00:00

It will probably look dated-on-arrival utilitarian like the neuroscience building if the massing study’s disregard for FPA is any indication.

urban_dilettante · PostMay 22, 2021#202021-05-22T17:08+00:00

^ yeah, i can't get excited about renderings for this thing. it's going to be drab, utilitarian, and hostile to pedestrians like everything else they've built recently.

wabash · PostMay 22, 2021#212021-05-22T19:35+00:00

Between the strip mall across the intersection, the Panera and Applebee's at the other end of the block, and the foot traffic from STCOP and the Metro Bus garage, not adding at least a small retail element to this corner would be a miss.

chriss752 · PostJun 15, 2021#222021-06-15T23:42+00:00

Preliminary site work underway. Also, Clayco has this project listed on their OxBlue webcam list. There are two cameras for this project.
https://app.oxblue.com/open/claycorp

sc4mayor · PostJun 16, 2021#232021-06-16T03:12+00:00

^ Thanks for the webcam tip. Not a terrible view looking down FPA:

gone corporate · PostJun 23, 2021#242021-06-23T20:02+00:00

Large barriers are now up along Forest Park Parkway the length of the site.

sc4mayor · PostJun 23, 2021#252021-06-23T20:38+00:00