Yep. 8 locations over 20 years and was always able to walk to the store. Winter with a 24 pack of bottled water on my shoulder was always a fun trip, lol. TI closed all stores in 2018 by the way. Chicago grocery market is waaaay more competitive than STL. My food cost is quite a bit higher in STL than it ever was up there.urbanitas wrote: ↑Jan 24, 2021Ha, no, it was a Treasure Island, but I did live very near a Jewel-Osco for awhile as well. Of course it's not uncommon there, I think there were about a half dozen grocery stores within walking distance of every apartment I had.STLinCHI wrote: ↑Jan 24, 2021Was that a Jewels? Lol. (Chicago joke).urbanitas wrote: ↑Jan 24, 2021Lol, erm, you really missed the point of the ?. Nowhere did I state or imply that they should, or had to, give a reason, I was merely inquiring what the reason was, if they, in fact, offered one.
Because noon seems an odd cutoff time to me, unless we are strictly talking about products delivered daily, where freshness is an issue, e.g. baked goods, prepared foods, seafood, cut flowers, etc. But that would be a small % of their regular deliveries, hence, my question...
For the record, I lived across an alley from the loading dock of a very busy grocer in Chicago for two years, so I am a subject matter expert.
To wit:urbanitas wrote: ↑Jan 21, 2021^^Also, I'm still curious as to where the Fresh Thyme loading dock will be. The only option seems to be on Forest Park Ave. Having semis backing in and pulling out, right at the intersection on a very busy street, would be extremely awkward...
The only remaining existing loading dock on the building.
I had assumed they were going to glass this all in for grocery space, with floor-to-ceiling windows and lots of produce and bakery counters visible from the street. Alternatively, it would have made a great, covered outdoor seating area for an in-store cafe, or for lunch customers of the grocery store.
Either would have been a really nice feature on the Forest Park Ave. streetscape, and would have made that intersection a much more inviting 'entrance' to the Foundry. But I guess the scene will be truck grills, lifts and pallets instead.
...or at least that's the justification the developer will give. But they have cut new, filled, re-sized or reconfigured countless other exterior openings throughout this project, and built new structures adjacent to historic.pattimagee wrote: ↑Jan 26, 2021Could have been a Historic Tax Credit Requirement?
No doubt the NPS would be very particular about window, door, or fencing infill on the front facade, but they wouldn't demand that a former loading dock can only be restored as it was.
StLouis Public Radio: City Foundry Development Presses On In Midtown St. Louis Despite Pandemic
Not really anything new, but for whatever it's worth, the developer is still claiming that the Foundry retail, "is expected to be open midyear. Or at least, that’s the hope." They offered few specifics though, except 18 Rails possibly opening "this summer".
The article also states that 50% of the retail space is leased. Of course, that number includes the long-signed big entertainment anchors like Alamo, Fassler, Punch Bowl, and presumably 18 Rails, as well as the 30,000 sf grocery store...
Not really anything new, but for whatever it's worth, the developer is still claiming that the Foundry retail, "is expected to be open midyear. Or at least, that’s the hope." They offered few specifics though, except 18 Rails possibly opening "this summer".
The article also states that 50% of the retail space is leased. Of course, that number includes the long-signed big entertainment anchors like Alamo, Fassler, Punch Bowl, and presumably 18 Rails, as well as the 30,000 sf grocery store...
If they can get Alamo, Fassler and Punch Bowl up and running along with the Food Hall, it will being enough people down to at least have some activity there. Not everyone going to the grocery store will venture to the Food Hall during their trip to the Foundry, so that's why I left that one out of my list.urbanitas wrote: ↑Feb 16, 2021StLouis Public Radio: City Foundry Development Presses On In Midtown St. Louis Despite Pandemic
Not really anything new, but for whatever it's worth, the developer still claims they plan to open some portion of the retail by "midyear", "or at least that's the hope". They offered few specifics though, except 18 Rails possibly opening "this summer".
They also stated that 50% of the retail space is leased. Of course, that number includes the big entertainment anchors like Alamo, Fassler, Punch Bowl, 18 Rails, as well as the 30,000 sf grocery store...
True retail stores (clothing and what not) I assume will still show up. The last bit about them talking to some retailers is a good thing. I think the space will become much more active once Phase 2 is completed.
The Fresh Thyme will likely be the first retail space open anyway, as they have started on their tenant improvements, and they don't need the rest of the Foundry to be open. But yeah, that's only going to bring activity to the garage.chriss752 wrote: ↑Feb 16, 2021If they can get Alamo, Fassler and Punch Bowl up and running along with the Food Hall, it will being enough people down to at least have some activity there. Not everyone going to the grocery store will venture to the Food Hall during their trip to the Foundry, so that's why I left that one out of my list.
True retail stores (clothing and what not) I assume will still show up. The last bit about them talking to some retailers is a good thing. I think the space will become much more active once Phase 2 is completed.
I'm not exactly sure what the 18 Rails business model is, but it sounds like it is primarily an event space. So, assuming that has it's own entrance, that wouldn't necessarily need the rest of the Foundry open either. But it's also probably not going to generate much weekday activity along Foundry Way.
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Their project was announced 5 years ago and this phase to be completed completed by 2018
For the thousandth time, yes. In fact, the offices are open right now on a business day basis. Why open entertainment and restaurant options now when we need to see where everything will be in a few months?chris fuller wrote:Is anything going to open at this project??
I assure you, restaurants, the food hall, and those entertainment anchors will open here.
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Re: Punch Bowl Social - Has there been any confirmation that it will still be a tenant? I know there's been some progress regarding their bankruptcy, but I believe they're just operating 2 locations at the moment. They had 18 in 2019, but permanently closed some locations to get down to 13, with 11 of those still not reopened as of today.
No. The future of any City Foundry location will likely be determined by a new owner. Punch Bowl Social is to be sold out of bankruptcy via auction, some time in the next few weeks.Laife Fulk wrote: ↑Feb 16, 2021Re: Punch Bowl Social - Has there been any confirmation that it will still be a tenant? I know there's been some progress regarding their bankruptcy, but I believe they're just operating 2 locations at the moment. They had 18 in 2019, but permanently closed some locations to get down to 13, with 11 of those still not reopened as of today.
Restaurant Business Magazine: PUNCH BOWL SOCIAL KICKS OFF ITS SALE PROCESS
"Punch Bowl Social, the “eatertainment” concept that had filed for bankruptcy in December, is set for a sale process after the company and its lenders resolved their differences.
The Denver-based chain, which is currently operating two of its 13 locations, reports considerable interest from potential buyers and is expected to name a “stalking horse” bidder this week. A stalking horse bidder sets the base price for an upcoming auction in a bankruptcy process and generally has the inside track to acquire the company.
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The Food Hall has replaced a couple of the tenants who bailed, and so is back to being 40% leased. Or rather, it should be...when they open.
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I think Turmeric, Patty's, and PoptIMism are relatively recent additions.
And btw, just as like the bare minimum, you ought to at least be able to spell your tenants' names correctly on your marketing media...
I think Turmeric, Patty's, and PoptIMism are relatively recent additions.
And btw, just as like the bare minimum, you ought to at least be able to spell your tenants' names correctly on your marketing media...
FWIW City Foundry's latest Instagram post says the Food Hall will open this spring:
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Any good rumblings on next phase, the rendered residential tower & additional office? It seems that they could easily kick off the residential tower even though office could be delays.
I think the Food Hall will be just fine as long as Foundry phase II happens, Crawler construction resumes and CORTEX can keep growing.
I think the Food Hall will be just fine as long as Foundry phase II happens, Crawler construction resumes and CORTEX can keep growing.
Phase 2 should start in the Fall. Office in Phase 1 is nearly 100% leased and to my understanding, inquiries have been made on the new office space in Phase 2, so I see no reason why that could be delayed.dredger wrote:Any good rumblings on next phase, the rendered residential tower & additional office? It seems that they could easily kick off the residential tower even though office could be delays.
I think the Food Hall will be just fine as long as Foundry phase II happens, Crawler construction resumes and CORTEX can keep growing.
What about the ~30,000sf of space on the ground floor of the BYCO building? Didn't look like there is anyone in there, but maybe they just hadn't moved in yet.chriss752 wrote: ↑Feb 18, 2021Office in Phase 1 is nearly 100% leased and to my understanding, inquiries have been made on the new office space in Phase 2, so I see no reason why that could be delayed.
I believe the space is to be home to the Deli Star office, which is presently under construction. Or at least a good majority of the space.urbanitas wrote: ↑Feb 19, 2021What about the ~30,000sf of space on the ground floor of the BYCO building? Didn't look like there is anyone in there, but maybe they just hadn't moved in yet.chriss752 wrote: ↑Feb 18, 2021Office in Phase 1 is nearly 100% leased and to my understanding, inquiries have been made on the new office space in Phase 2, so I see no reason why that could be delayed.
Edit: looking at a story, Deli Star will take 16,500sf of space. So there is another space available in the building in question, but it's not 30,000sf. 13,500sf seems more likely if each floor plate is 30,000sf.
Restaurant Business Magazine: CROWDOUT CAPITAL MAKES A $32M BID FOR PUNCH BOWL SOCIALurbanitas wrote: ↑Feb 17, 2021No. The future of any City Foundry location will likely be determined by a new owner. Punch Bowl Social is to be sold out of bankruptcy via auction, some time in the next few weeks.Laife Fulk wrote: ↑Feb 16, 2021Re: Punch Bowl Social - Has there been any confirmation that it will still be a tenant? I know there's been some progress regarding their bankruptcy, but I believe they're just operating 2 locations at the moment. They had 18 in 2019, but permanently closed some locations to get down to 13, with 11 of those still not reopened as of today.
Restaurant Business Magazine: PUNCH BOWL SOCIAL KICKS OFF ITS SALE PROCESS
"Punch Bowl Social, the “eatertainment” concept that had filed for bankruptcy in December, is set for a sale process after the company and its lenders resolved their differences.
The Denver-based chain, which is currently operating two of its 13 locations, reports considerable interest from potential buyers and is expected to name a “stalking horse” bidder this week. A stalking horse bidder sets the base price for an upcoming auction in a bankruptcy process and generally has the inside track to acquire the company.
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City Foundry teaming up with Jamo Presents for socially distanced lives music...
Jamo Presents previously had a live music venue in Downtown South of 64 called "The Lot". It seemed to be popular throughout last fall.
https://www.ksdk.com/article/entertainm ... d3d808cea9Tickets will be sold in pods to seat groups of two to six and will feature concession partners STL Barkeep and Niche Food Group. Free parking will also be provided within City Foundry STL property.
Masks will be required for attendees when they enter or exit the venue, when they leave their designated pods and while interacting with venue staff. One-way line systems will keep traffic organized.
Strict hygiene protocols include the thorough sanitation of the venue during and after each show. Hand sanitizer stations will be available throughout the footprint, and contactless concessions ordering will also help maximize cleanliness.
The location within City Foundry, concert dates, line-up, and more will be announced next week.
Jamo Presents previously had a live music venue in Downtown South of 64 called "The Lot". It seemed to be popular throughout last fall.
An occupancy permit for a bar with patio and full liquor was applied for on February 10th but not yet issued. I imagine that's for Fassler Hall.
In addition to that, 4 permits were applied for on February 24th and 25th for the Jamo Presents concerts. All are listed along these lines...
Dates in April are: 4/1, 4/2, 4/3, 4/4, 4/9, 4/10, 4/11, 4/15, 4/16, 4/17, 4/23, 4/24
Overall, Jamo Presents seems to be planning on 26 nights of live music performances.
In addition to that, 4 permits were applied for on February 24th and 25th for the Jamo Presents concerts. All are listed along these lines...
Dates in March are: 3/9, 3/11, 3/12, 3/13, 3/14, 3/17, 3/18, 3/19, 3/20, 3/21, 3/25, 3/26, 3/27, 3/28ONE NIGHT EVENT. HRS OF OPERATION 12:00 NOON- 1:00 AM. COOKING AND FULL LIQUOR (WEST SIDE)
Dates in April are: 4/1, 4/2, 4/3, 4/4, 4/9, 4/10, 4/11, 4/15, 4/16, 4/17, 4/23, 4/24
Overall, Jamo Presents seems to be planning on 26 nights of live music performances.
That permit was cancelled. It was probably an error related to the event permits, which also mention full liquor and patio use.chriss752 wrote: ↑Mar 01, 2021An occupancy permit for a bar with patio and full liquor was applied for on February 10th but not yet issued. I imagine that's for Fassler Hall.
Unfortunately, I don't see any sign of a construction permit application for any of Fassler Hall's tenant improvements on the Foundry permit list. So, it seems that's been mothballed like Alamo and Punch Bowl.
Alamo Drafthouse is in bankruptcy
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... r-business
The KC location is closing permanently: https://drafthouse.com/news/thank-you-kansas-city
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... r-business
The KC location is closing permanently: https://drafthouse.com/news/thank-you-kansas-city