Renderings have shown painted outdoor walls in the past.
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New rendering perspective showing Phase 2 from within the current development. Description from the Architect (Todd Halamka + Partners) is attached below.
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I also found a rendering of Fassler Hall buried on their website. It looks like it will be a nice place. If my directions are correct, then those doorways you see behind the bar will lead to private dining rooms where old hoppers act as "chandeliers".
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One interesting thing that I find in this description is the fact that it says "modular unit planning". I wonder if they'll be using modular construction, which would be the first in St. Louis to my knowledge. If so, Phase 2 now has two unique only to City Foundry building techniques in the region: Mass Timber (office) and Modular Construction (apartments). And with Phase 2, red and yellow are introduced to add some more color. Throw in planters, people, and potential store signage and Foundry Way will get more colorful for sure. Anyway, new rendering perspective is below.City Foundry Phase 2 is a new 368,000-square-foot, mixed-use residential development in Saint Louis, Missouri. The development includes 282 dwelling units atop a multi-level parking garage, with ground floor commercial retail. Continuing a westward expansion of the newly completed City Foundry Phase 1 development, the new residential building design envisions elegant, compact dwelling units in studio, 1 bedroom and 3 bedroom layouts permitting work/live opportunities on premise, coupled with extraordinary amenity facilities including two outdoor garden terraces at level 8 complete with extensive flowers, trees, swimming and leisure settings. Additional level 13 rooftop indoor/outdoor amenity spaces are included with vistas extending across the entire City Foundry site below and the downtown city of Saint Louis, Mississippi River and Gateway Arch beyond.
As project owner and developer, the Lawrence Group anticipates a fall 2021 commencement of construction. The building will seek Well Building certification and incorporates both natural and mechanical ventilation strategies to optimize systems efficiencies and maintain low energy consumption. The building design also explores modular unit planning with repetitive interior and exterior components, fostering construction schedule and materials cost savings.
I also found a rendering of Fassler Hall buried on their website. It looks like it will be a nice place. If my directions are correct, then those doorways you see behind the bar will lead to private dining rooms where old hoppers act as "chandeliers".
^ Renderings keep flipping back and forth - looks like that new rendering has the office building back to 5 stories and apartments at 13 stories. Some renderings showed 6 and 14 stories, respectively.
Regardless, its a cool angle.
Regardless, its a cool angle.
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Fassler Hall is basically a modern Leaky Cauldron - I love it.
^ Modular apartment definitely gained a foothold in the Bay Area and the apartments on top of the garage/platform of this size well suited.. Watched a few Oakland residential modular projects come together on my to and from my work. Mostly 4-8 residential floors on a platform. I don't think it safes that much time on the overall schedule (site/foundation work doesn't change, concrete pours and curing time still has to happen and modular units sill have to be built) but defiinitely some significant cost savings on the carpentry, plumbing, and HVAC end as you a big difference on the construction site in crew size, workers bees between traditional stick vs Modular on the site end once concrete work/platform is ready to be built on.
I'm confused about the renderings as well. The clear ones I posted on previous pages were made the same day as this rendering - October 20th. So I don't know why there are discrepancies with the height of the buildings. Regardless though, it's pretty clear what we're getting in terms of a Phase 2. We know the building designs just the height of them is a mystery (in my view at least). And it is a cool angle. Should look nice in person and add more color to that end (especially since the glass will most likely reflect the blue sky on nice days).Timmy wrote: ↑Dec 16, 2020^ Renderings keep flipping back and forth - looks like that new rendering has the office building back to 5 stories and apartments at 13 stories. Some renderings showed 6 and 14 stories, respectively.
Regardless, its a cool angle.
Punch Bowl Social files for Chapter 11 Bankruptcy.
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/12/22/punch-b ... iness.html
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/12/22/punch-b ... iness.html
Wow, must be a slow news day in the financial markets.chriss752 wrote: ↑Dec 22, 2020Punch Bowl Social files for Chapter 11 Bankruptcy.
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/12/22/punch-b ... iness.html
^Geez, September? I really don't understand the hold-up. Of all of the tenants here, Fresh Thyme is the best positioned to do well despite (and perhaps even because of) the pandemic, due to unmet demand for this type of product in Midtown and the near-southside (frankly, the whole city). Plus, it should be the least reliant on traffic from the rest of the Foundry, which will likely still be largely vacant into next year.
^^Also, I'm still curious as to where the Fresh Thyme loading dock will be. The only option seems to be on Forest Park Ave. Having semis backing in and pulling out, right at the intersection on a very busy street, would be extremely awkward...
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Keep in mind that a lot of students aren't on campus right now, and those that are would be gone for the summer. So even if they were able to have this ready by May, the first few months would be without a major targeted customer base. I get the September timeline.urbanitas wrote: ↑Jan 20, 2021^Geez, September? I really don't understand the hold-up. Of all of the tenants here, Fresh Thyme is the best positioned to do well despite (and perhaps even because of) the pandemic, due to unmet demand for this type of product in Midtown and the near-southside (frankly, the whole city). Plus, it should be the least reliant on traffic from the rest of the Foundry, which will likely still be largely vacant into next year.
As for the loading dock, isn't there an existing dock door on South Spring just south of Clark? If not, I assume most of the restocking would happen over night. So a semi parked in front on FPP wouldn't be a huge deal.
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As someone who sells to Fresh Thyme they have a strict delivery window that ends everyday at noon.
Keep in mind that they were originally planning on opening in late summer 2020. They would have had to start work on the BYCO building before the pandemic to come even close to that time frame, but FOPA/LG clearly hadn't even done the interior remediation and demo work yet. I don't know the reason for that delay, but I am positive that Fresh Thyme would have liked to have been open this Spring if they could have, SLU students or no.Laife Fulk wrote: ↑Jan 21, 2021Keep in mind that a lot of students aren't on campus right now, and those that are would be gone for the summer. So even if they were able to have this ready by May, the first few months would be without a major targeted customer base. I get the September timeline.
But in any case, I'm pretty sure SLU is expecting all students on campus this semester, albeit with a revised class schedule.
I also think you are overestimating the importance of the SLU student demographic and schedule to Fresh Thyme's business decisions. They are at City Foundry primarily due to it's central location, proximity, and quick access to the booming residential areas in FPSE/CWE/Skinky-D and the near south side, and what they anticipate will eventually be high traffic volume from Cortex, IKEA, Foundry and the other retail which will inevitably pop up along Forest Park Ave.
What is the reason they give, and when does the window start?GoHarvOrGoHome wrote: ↑Jan 21, 2021As someone who sells to Fresh Thyme they have a strict delivery window that ends everyday at noon.
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Not exactly sure when it starts but probably when they open or a couple hours before. I know they have a person in charge of receiving who leaves at noon. Whole foods and Schnucks have similar systems.
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Why on earth would they have to give a reason?
They are the purchaser. They set the windows they want for whatever reason they want. If you don't want to sell to them, you don't have to.
I don’t know why you had to be so aggressive with that reply.newstl2020 wrote: ↑Jan 23, 2021Why on earth would they have to give a reason?
They are the purchaser. They set the windows they want for whatever reason they want. If you don't want to sell to them, you don't have to.
I thought it was a good question. I just figured stores took deliveries all day. I didn’t realize they had cut off times so early. So like the other person asked I would be curious as to why noon is the cutoff time.
Goharv’s reply makes sense. I just would have guessed someone would have been there later, say til 4, that could take delivery. Interesting.
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Billboard outside the Foundry on 40 is advertising retail space for lease now.
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For a Seattle Native, you sure have picked up on the local vernacular.
For a Seattle Native, you sure have picked up on the local vernacular.
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Wasn't meant to be aggressive. Text lacks some expressionism as I am sure you know.jshank83 wrote: ↑Jan 23, 2021I don’t know why you had to be so aggressive with that reply.newstl2020 wrote: ↑Jan 23, 2021Why on earth would they have to give a reason?urbanitas wrote: ↑Jan 22, 2021What is the reason they give, and when does the window start?
They are the purchaser. They set the windows they want for whatever reason they want. If you don't want to sell to them, you don't have to.
I thought it was a good question. I just figured stores took deliveries all day. I didn’t realize they had cut off times so early. So like the other person asked I would be curious as to why noon is the cutoff time.
Goharv’s reply makes sense. I just would have guessed someone would have been there later, say til 4, that could take delivery. Interesting.
Lol, erm, you really missed the point of the ?. Nowhere did I state or imply that they should, or had to, give a reason, I was merely inquiring what the reason was, if they, in fact, offered one.newstl2020 wrote: ↑Jan 23, 2021Why on earth would they have to give a reason?
They are the purchaser. They set the windows they want for whatever reason they want. If you don't want to sell to them, you don't have to.
Because noon seems an odd cutoff time to me, unless we are strictly talking about products delivered daily, where freshness is an issue, e.g. baked goods, prepared foods, seafood, cut flowers, etc. But that would be a small % of their regular deliveries, hence, my question...
For the record, I lived across an alley from the loading dock of a very busy grocer in Chicago for two years, so I am a subject matter expert.
Was that a Jewels? Lol. (Chicago joke).urbanitas wrote: ↑Jan 24, 2021Lol, erm, you really missed the point of the ?. Nowhere did I state or imply that they should, or had to, give a reason, I was merely inquiring what the reason was, if they, in fact, offered one.newstl2020 wrote: ↑Jan 23, 2021Why on earth would they have to give a reason?urbanitas wrote: ↑Jan 22, 2021What is the reason they give, and when does the window start?
They are the purchaser. They set the windows they want for whatever reason they want. If you don't want to sell to them, you don't have to.
Because noon seems an odd cutoff time to me, unless we are strictly talking about products delivered daily, where freshness is an issue, e.g. baked goods, prepared foods, seafood, cut flowers, etc. But that would be a small % of their regular deliveries, hence, my question...
For the record, I lived across an alley from the loading dock of a very busy grocer in Chicago for two years, so I am a subject matter expert.
Ha, no, it was a Treasure Island, but I did live very near a Jewel-Osco for awhile as well. Of course it's not uncommon there, I think there were about a half dozen grocery stores within walking distance of every apartment I had.STLinCHI wrote: ↑Jan 24, 2021Was that a Jewels? Lol. (Chicago joke).urbanitas wrote: ↑Jan 24, 2021Lol, erm, you really missed the point of the ?. Nowhere did I state or imply that they should, or had to, give a reason, I was merely inquiring what the reason was, if they, in fact, offered one.
Because noon seems an odd cutoff time to me, unless we are strictly talking about products delivered daily, where freshness is an issue, e.g. baked goods, prepared foods, seafood, cut flowers, etc. But that would be a small % of their regular deliveries, hence, my question...
For the record, I lived across an alley from the loading dock of a very busy grocer in Chicago for two years, so I am a subject matter expert.