Kansas City Projects and Updates

ldai_phs · PostDec 22, 2020#12012020-12-22T23:26+00:00

West Plaza Flats

Developer: Price Brothers Development
Scope: 104 apartments, 18K sqft retail, 172 parking spaces. 210K sqft total.
Height: 5 stories, 67'
Complete: 2022

Waddell & Reed HQ Tower

Construction is coming along nicely. The first bump out is under way.

framer · PostDec 23, 2020#12022020-12-23T01:26+00:00

ldai_phs wrote: ↑
Dec 22, 2020
West Plaza Flats

Glad to see we're not the only ones getting crappy looking buildings.

chriss752 · PostDec 23, 2020#12032020-12-23T01:26+00:00

framer wrote:
ldai_phs wrote: ↑
Dec 22, 2020
West Plaza Flats

Glad to see we're not the only ones getting crappy looking buildings.
This is the same architect as 41Lindell. The similarities are there.

sc4mayor · PostDec 23, 2020#12042020-12-23T02:35+00:00

^ No surprise there. Both are hideous.

Loscher94 · PostDec 23, 2020#12052020-12-23T11:24+00:00

On the aviation front, Kansas City is now one of the top three unserved destinations from Honolulu with 134 PDEW since Austin and Charlotte announced nonstop service. The proceeding two destinations are Baltimore (205) and Detroit (147) with STL at 129. This is for 2Q 2020.

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The only carriers I can see serving MCI-HNL are Frontier Airlines (when they receive their A321XLR’s) and Hawaiian Airlines. However it should be noted that nonstop to Hawaii from KC and STL could be real possibilities within the next few years.

jshank83 · PostDec 23, 2020#12062020-12-23T20:27+00:00

Loscher94 wrote: ↑
Dec 23, 2020
On the aviation front, Kansas City is now one of the top three unserved destinations from Honolulu with 134 PDEW since Austin and Charlotte announced nonstop service. The proceeding two destinations are Baltimore (205) and Detroit (147) with STL at 129. This is for 2Q 2020.

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The only carriers I can see serving MCI-HNL are Frontier Airlines (when they receive their A321XLR’s) and Hawaiian Airlines. However it should be noted that nonstop to Hawaii from KC and STL could be real possibilities within the next few years.

Do you have numbers for before 2nd qtr seeing it was in the middle of covid. I’m actually shocked it would be that high since hawaii was shut down in the 2nd quarter of 2020

chriss752 · PostDec 29, 2020#12072020-12-29T04:44+00:00

In Kansas City for a few days and am taking project update photos...

City Club (Crossroads): I like the walk-up style apartments and the overall project has come out pretty nice.

Reverb (Crossroads): Fully complete and open for residents. Interesting light strip on the Walnut Street side.

Waddell & Reed HQ (Downtown): Moving on up. This seems to be going slow (to me at least).

Starting to make an impact on the Baltimore corridor.

Starting to make more of an impact from Walnut Street over the highway...

It will show up some from this view from the City Hall south lawn.

Finally, here is the lobby corner and the 14th and Wyandotte corner.

Children's Mercy Hospital (Hospital Hill): Swanky lighting.

46 Penn Centre (Plaza Area): Fully complete and open for tenants.
These are from last night. In person, I actually like the light strips.

Drone photos from today...

This is probably my favorite perspective. Shows the density in the area behind the building...

The Westley on Broadway (Westport): Fully complete and open for residents.

Uptown Flats (Valentine-Midtown): Under construction with facade work beginning.

Midtown Plaza (Midtown): Renovation of old office building into apartments.

KC Airport progress...

PostDec 29, 2020#12082020-12-29T04:45+00:00

chriss752 wrote: ↑
Dec 17, 2020
Here are renderings and elevations of LuxLiving's (SoHo, McKenzie, Hudson, Chelsea, Steelyard, etc) Crossroads project. 228 apartments. 209 parking spaces.

CityScene KC Story: https://cityscenekc.com/st-louis-develo ... rossroads/

Per the LuxLiving website, this project will be known as "The Edison".

framer · PostDec 29, 2020#12092020-12-29T05:35+00:00

Thanks for the updates (and thanks for including locations; I'm not that familiar with the names of KC neighborhoods).

Penn Centre seems rather garish for the Plaza, at least at night.

chriss752 · PostDec 30, 2020#12102020-12-30T01:16+00:00

The Katz on Main (Main and Westport)
This is the second LuxLiving project in Kansas City. It involves the preservation of the facade of the old Katz Drugstore Building, which is a Midtown KC landmark. This site sits along the KCStreetcar Extension route.

Apartments: 192 +/-
Parking: 175 spaces
Retail: Yes
Architect: Hoefer Wysocki

Renderings...

ldai_phs · PostDec 30, 2020#12112020-12-30T01:17+00:00

On the streetcar extension

chriss752 · PostDec 31, 2020#12122020-12-31T09:47+00:00

Additional drone photos.

Katz on Main...

The Monarch and Netherland (39th and Main. 1 Block North of the Katz)...

The Gallerie Apartments...

chris fuller · PostJan 02, 2021#12132021-01-02T00:24+00:00

Struggling to survive in a pandemic, Kansas City’s restaurants are closing down
https://thebeacon.media/stories/2020/12 ... sing-down/

hobo digitale · PostJan 02, 2021#12142021-01-02T15:09+00:00

chris fuller wrote: ↑
Jan 02, 2021
Struggling to survive in a pandemic, Kansas City’s restaurants are closing down
https://thebeacon.media/stories/2020/12 ... sing-down/

Curious it doesn't show Leisure/Hospitality job losses compared to other cities. KC's loss is around 19%, same as STL. Both KC/STL doing better than most of US. MSP, Columbus, Detroit, Chicago, Philly in 20-30% range of losses. Boston over 35% still. Indy only about 5% loss but KC/STL better than avg.

One odd standout for KC is significant increase in construction jobs, more than hot markets in South while most of Midwest shows decline. STL shows slight uptick in Financial jobs while most other markets don't.

Click on states to left to see other markets...
https://www.bls.gov/eag/eag.mo_kansascity_msa.htm

kipfilet · PostJan 03, 2021#12152021-01-03T14:39+00:00

^I was going to write the same, I doubt those job losses are substantially different from those of other MSAs

chriss752 · PostJan 03, 2021#12162021-01-03T21:19+00:00

The North KC City Administrator is pushing for a resolution to support the extension of the KC Streetcar Northward into North KC. It will be reviewed at their January 5th Council meeting.
http://www.nkc.org/common/pages/Display ... d=17315350

Based on previous plans, the line would start in the River Market Neighborhood and head West to Route 9, cross the Missouri River on the Heart of America Bridge, and then run on Burlington (Route 9) until it reaches the terminus at 32nd Street. Of course, those plans are from 6 years ago.

If built, this would be the third streetcar extension...

South to UMKC/51st and Brookside.
North to the Berkley Riverfront.
North to North Kansas City.

GoHarvOrGoHome · PostJan 04, 2021#12172021-01-04T02:41+00:00

Hopefully the extension will make it to the Armor retail district. Maybe one day it could expand again, the North KC Hospital/Cerner area would make a nice northern terminus for the line

Loscher94 · PostJan 04, 2021#12182021-01-04T03:22+00:00

As excited as I am to see NorthRail gain traction, what’s the appeal of North KC? It’s low density, poor walkability and largely warehouses and light industries. Do they anticipate a real-estate boom after the extension is completed?

I much rather they focus on East-West lines such as West-bottoms, Troost, Linwood, KCK etc. Maybe even collaborate with a few JoCo towns.

Please correct me if I’m wrong.

ldai_phs · PostJan 04, 2021#12192021-01-04T03:34+00:00

Loscher94 wrote: ↑
Jan 04, 2021
As excited as I am to see NorthRail gain traction, what’s the appeal of North KC? It’s low density, poor walkability and largely warehouses and light industries. Do they anticipate a real-estate boom after the extension is completed?

I much rather they focus on East-West lines such as West-bottoms, Troost, Linwood, KCK etc. Maybe even collaborate with a few JoCo towns.

Please correct me if I’m wrong.

1. North Kansas City supports rail and mass transit. They previously passed a city-wide tax for light rail in the 2000's and their politicians and citizens continue to push for it.

2. Much of NKC is being redeveloped into mixed uses already. The streetcar would help further this investment. NKC is home to a large hospital, casino, and the Cerner HQ. None of those 3 would be served by the tram but I think they would be important pieces of the tax base.

3. HOA bridge is 33 years old. It will likely need a major renovation in the next few years. That + the Highway 9 at grade project have many synergies with NorthRail.

4. Westbottoms and KCK are high cost but low ridership. Troost MAX will likely see some major upgrades in the next few years as it ends its 10-12 year useful life (per the original Federal Grant). Linwood rail or brt will be explored by the new regional mass transit implementation consultant.

chriss752 · PostJan 04, 2021#12202021-01-04T05:43+00:00

GoHarvOrGoHome wrote: ↑
Jan 04, 2021
Hopefully the extension will make it to the Armor retail district. Maybe one day it could expand again, the North KC Hospital/Cerner area would make a nice northern terminus for the line

The plan is to have a station at Armour Road (where all the shops are) and Burlington. So it will be served.

jay23 · PostJan 06, 2021#12212021-01-06T05:13+00:00

Seems like KC is on fire! How long do you all think we have until STL is on this level.

hobo digitale · PostJan 07, 2021#12222021-01-07T14:37+00:00

jay23 wrote: ↑
Jan 06, 2021
Seems like KC is on fire! How long do you all think we have until STL is on this level.

STL has its share of new development too. Looking at Midwest metros that have fairly significant metro wide development momentum for winter cities (MSP, Columbus, Indy, KC, Madison, Des Moines), they have consistent population growth over 0.5%/yr and fairly consistent positive net migration.

KCMO's urban corridor is taking off maybe because the fixed rail line is short, free fare likely helps too. It keeps the TOD interest within denser contiguous zones, which may not have happened if starting with say a 50+ mile commuter line. Now that the second phase is a solid go, fully funded, Midtown KC is likely to take off next several years. Line still short enough with stops close enough to keep developers focused in a relatively short stretch to densify contiguously. Hopefully downtown can also continue to attract developers (plenty of surface lots still) and build on 30K+ population accomplished, but Midtown has more low hanging fruit that will probably get snatched up sooner. Realistic shot to get Midtown back to 70K population (peak in 1950s). E Side also getting surprising amount of $M development after Troost/Prospect MAX BRT upgrades.

matguy70 · PostJan 08, 2021#12232021-01-08T01:40+00:00

Seems like KC is on fire! How long do you all think we have until STL is on this level.

Um ... What?

Sure KC has quite a bit going on. STL has over 8 billion dollars development JUST in the city's 63 square miles. Is that a joke or a flame post, especially on a Urban St. Louis development board.

ldai_phs · PostJan 08, 2021#12242021-01-08T02:47+00:00

matguy70 wrote:
Seems like KC is on fire! How long do you all think we have until STL is on this level.
Um ... What?

Sure KC has quite a bit going on. STL has over 8 billion dollars development JUST in the city's 63 square miles. Is that a joke or a flame post, especially on a Urban St. Louis development board.

Source or timeline for that number?

chriss752 · PostJan 08, 2021#12252021-01-08T03:07+00:00

ldai_phs wrote: ↑
Jan 08, 2021
matguy70 wrote:
Seems like KC is on fire! How long do you all think we have until STL is on this level.
Um ... What?

Sure KC has quite a bit going on. STL has over 8 billion dollars development JUST in the city's 63 square miles. Is that a joke or a flame post, especially on a Urban St. Louis development board.
Source or timeline for that number?

By my count, the City of St. Louis has $4.3865 Billion in development planned or underway. That is impressive. The "big three" in this number are the NGA West, WashU Neuroscience Building, and the MLS Stadium, which collectively total $2.866 Billion.

So, I also want to know where you're getting the $8 Billion figure from. Because I can see it if you include the past half decade or so, but not presently at this time.

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