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PostDec 03, 2020#26

I've walked around quite a bit along this corridor of N. Broadway (I70 to N. Market) and it is significantly quieter and less purely industrial looking than the area around Steelcoat Lofts was ~ 5 years ago. It isn't pedestrian friendly by any means, and it isn't as close to rapidly growing areas, but I can see the potential.

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PostDec 03, 2020#27

^ just going to take a ton of infrastructure investment, which i don't see happening quickly.

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PostDec 03, 2020#28

Yeah. Though Hyde Park is just across 70, so if the NGA gets that rolling it could help. And if the Bottle District or the riverfront just north of Lumiere Place ever get redeveloped, suddenly that area is very viable.

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PostDec 03, 2020#29

I've walked and biked quite a bit here. It's as walkable as anywhere else in the city that isn't adjacent to stores.

I've never noticed excessive noise or traffic. In fact, there are some ways in which this area is better than old north, chiefly crime and not being separated from downtown by public housing.

Old north is much ballyhooed. This is just a quieter, safer extension of old north.

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PostDec 03, 2020#30

I agree the area is not residential right now, but it's certainly not fulfilling its potential as an industrial hub. These tall brick warehouses are largely obsolete for industrial use. It's hard to deny the area has mixed use potential in the long run, especially if the near north riverfront district can ever take off as planned.

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PostDec 03, 2020#31

Totally disagree with the idea that residential and industrial can't mix. As others have said the area is as walkable as anywhere else in the city. What amenities do you want? Build more residential for people with disposable income and amenities will come. The biggest noise and pollution will be coming from the highway and broadway itself. What heavy equipment? This isn't a coal mine. 

I think that we should mix industry with residential and commercial. Provide jobs close to where people live just make sure things are walkable. 

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PostDec 03, 2020#32

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Totally disagree with the idea that residential and industrial can't mix. As others have said the area is as walkable as anywhere else in the city. What amenities do you want? Build more residential for people with disposable income and amenities will come. The biggest noise and pollution will be coming from the highway and broadway itself. What heavy equipment? This isn't a coal mine. 

I think that we should mix industry with residential and commercial. Provide jobs close to where people live just make sure things are walkable. 
Stamping Lofts has been open for 7 years south of the bridge next to the city prison and it’s seen zero development since or any other improvements

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PostDec 03, 2020#33

I think that most industrial tends to be the opposite of what makes a good neighborhood. You have these sites that can be at least a block big that require lots of curb cuts and parking, and don't attract anyone besides their employees to the area. There's very little incentive for anyone to walk in that area.

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PostDec 04, 2020#34

I hope I can someday live on north Broadway. I actually love the vibe up there. I feel with more residential rehabs  it would be a really cool place.    I bet the area overtime losing time is losing industrial  jobs. Residential is the best future of the area 

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PostDec 04, 2020#35

PD reporting:
https://www.stltoday.com/business/local ... 221f4.html

Also sounds like Blackline owns the building at 1918 N. Broadway which could become a potential home for Evolution St. Louis:
As for Evolution, its leadership is already making plans for an expansion to the larger site just a little more than a year after opening in St. Louis — and contending with a global pandemic that caught it off guard as it got off the ground.

But Evolution St. Louis CEO Jon Lewis, who co-founded the venture with fellow clothing industry veteran John Elmuccio, said that the pandemic also provided an opening by accentuating issues with global supply chains. That was the firm’s value proposition from the beginning — offering domestic garment manufacturing that can quickly and easily pivot based on industry changes.
“Fortunately for us, we’ve already been working on this for a couple years so we’re way ahead of the game, and I think we’re looking at robust sales and a great deal of customer outreach to the point where we’re looking at additional space,” Lewis told the Post-Dispatch. “The pandemic exposed the need for a cataclysmic shift in how you look at manufacturing.”

Evolution St. Louis already has about 18 employees and plans to have about 45 by this time next year as it ramps up the number of garment machines at its factory on Washington Boulevard from about 30 now. Just this week, Evolution announced a new partnership with the St. Louis Blues to make fan apparel for the upcoming season.

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PostDec 04, 2020#36

Thatguy644 wrote:
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I hope I can someday live on north Broadway. I actually love the vibe up there. I feel with more residential rehabs  it would be a really cool place.    I bet the area overtime losing time is losing industrial  jobs. Residential is the best future of the area 
Agree.  I've always felt that this area is lousy with untapped potential.

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PostDec 11, 2020#37

Going to the LCRA on December 15th. Tax Abatement of 15 years worth 95% followed by 5 years with 90% is recommended. 125 apartments will be affordable. 21 are market rate.

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PostDec 11, 2020#38

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Going to the LCRA on December 15th. Tax Abatement of 15 years worth 95% followed by 5 years with 90% is recommended. 125 apartments will be affordable.
That’s great. So the other 21 families live in fear? Is that what we’re saying? I mean, come on!

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PostDec 11, 2020#39

^ What are YOU saying?

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PostDec 11, 2020#40

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chriss752 wrote:
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Going to the LCRA on December 15th. Tax Abatement of 15 years worth 95% followed by 5 years with 90% is recommended. 125 apartments will be affordable.
That’s great. So the other 21 families live in fear? Is that what we’re saying? I mean, come on!
This is a terrible comment. Affordable housing does not cause crime. Housing is the first step at reducing crime and stabilizing individuals and families.

Affordable housing is necessary in a city and good for income diversity. We don't want just the rich in a city.

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PostDec 11, 2020#41

flipz wrote:
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chriss752 wrote:
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Going to the LCRA on December 15th. Tax Abatement of 15 years worth 95% followed by 5 years with 90% is recommended. 125 apartments will be affordable.
That’s great. So the other 21 families live in fear? Is that what we’re saying? I mean, come on!
Wow...that's just a piss poor comment.  I know low income people...and they're not criminals...

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PostDec 11, 2020#42

lol guys it's a quote from arrested development. Calm down

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PostDec 11, 2020#43

^ You should have added one of these then "/s"

Because it reads exactly as the rest of us understood it.

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PostDec 11, 2020#44

somehow i still haven't watched arrested development...

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PostDec 11, 2020#45

flipz wrote:lol guys it's a quote from arrested development. Calm down
I could tell it was sarcasm right away

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PostDec 11, 2020#46

I just rewatched arrested development and still didn't catch it! I think it doesn't read like sarcasm still but I'm also used to seeing a lot of people have incorrect beliefs about affordable housing.

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PostDec 11, 2020#47

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I just rewatched arrested development and still didn't catch it! I think it doesn't read like sarcasm still but I'm also used to seeing a lot of people have incorrect beliefs about affordable housing.

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This.  Your average St. Louisan has some pretty outdated (and often times racist) beliefs about affordable housing.

I've also seen Arrested Development all the way through two or three times and that still went right over my head.  The original comment read more like an stltoday comment to me lol.

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PostDec 11, 2020#48

Wildly overrated program imo

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PostFeb 06, 2021#49

Nextstl - Rezoning, Tax Abatement For 2000 N Broadway Passed By BoA

https://nextstl.com/2021/02/rezoning-ta ... ed-by-boa/

PostJul 31, 2021#50

$19.5M building permit application submitted

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