Given recent record gun sales and the extent of political polarization I am extremely skeptical about that. I definitely believe common sense gun laws would have been more easily implementable in any decade from the 1960s to the 1990s.dbInSouthCity wrote: ↑Sep 16, 2020Well the NRA is getting knee capped right now and that is the last hurdle since common sense gun laws are fairly popular with the general population
And confiscating the weed for themselves, no doubt.dbInSouthCity wrote: ↑Sep 16, 2020I agree, a guy making $50,000 a month dealing isn’t going to stop making $50,000 a month because the police will call him sir now. But police won’t be part of the solution to get that guy to stop dispatching people to murder his competitors- that’s why I rather take $5m of the $170m that we spend on SLMPD and give it to David Kennedy and see what he can do with it.urban_dilettante wrote: ↑Sep 16, 2020that sounds great—i'm all for it. how long do you think it'll take? what happens in the meantime? despite all their issues it seems to me that, for the time being, we still unfortunately need the police that we've got (not the ones found guilty, of course, but in general), and we need them to try something drastically different in the short term (cough cough aerial surveillance cough cough) in tandem with the longer-term reform work. the alternative is the mayhem that's going on now but sustained and probably worse. like i said, the pieces of trash driving around with these arsenals in their cars don't give a sh*t whether the police are using excessive force or handing out flowers. they're not gonna go, "oh, the police are reforming so we'll stop gunning people down on the highway now." in the near term, we still need the police to police, so any defunding/reform needs to keep that in mind.dbInSouthCity wrote: ↑Sep 15, 2020I don’t think this is a this or that situation, why can’t we have a well funded police dept and a competent one that doesn’t lose millions in lawsuits every year and that fires sh*tty officers?
Also why is marijuana illegal? 3 guys I went to high school with all huge weed users (today) are now SLMPD officers arresting people for weed.
One hundred and six children under the age of 18 have been shot in the City of St. Louis so far this year. Sixteen of them have died.
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We really need to demand more from our government. I know it is not an easy task but we gotta start somewhere. I have tried multiple times to email Lyda and I can't get a response. That is sad.
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I assume you've been using the contact email submission form through the city's website? With all of the recent protests, I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of legitimate messages are just getting lost in the amount of protest or spam messages they have to be getting. Not sure if you're on social media, but I reached out to Jacob Long, the official spokesperson for the Mayor's Office, for an issue and he responded to my DM within about 6 hours.
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Yes - it was through the cities web site and it was actually like 3 attempts and BEFORE COVID. And, before Jacob joined her team.
Homicide deaths have now passed COVID deaths in the City. Aldermanic President Lewis Reed has proposed setting up a $2 million fund to offer cash rewards for information that leads to the arrest of (alleged) murderers.
Interesting concept.
Interesting concept.
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This is known colliqually as the "snitch fund".framer wrote: ↑Sep 19, 2020Homicide deaths have now passed COVID deaths in the City. Aldermanic President Lewis Reed has proposed setting up a $2 million fund to offer cash rewards for information that leads to the arrest of (alleged) murderers.
Interesting concept.
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CA Gardner has added another 15 officers with questionable character and or other issues that cannot submit charges or evidence. The list is now up to 75 or about 6% of SLMPD. These lists should be made public and reasoning for each officers inclusion on the list should be spelled out. They should be able to appeal in front of a 3rd party and if the 3rd party sustained their inclusion on the list they should be fired immediately. The current 75 cost the city about $8-9m a year (average officer is a $115k all in cost a year) and if they are a court liability, that is wasting money, it’s hurting victims and it’s letting go criminals.
^These are all good suggestions, but don't leave out that the 3rd party should also be able to overturn any officer's inclusion on the list. "Questionable character" is at best a subjective trait.
Gardner is an absolute train wreck.
Gardner is an absolute train wreck.
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Questionable character as in Facebook posts that says “I hate Muslims” might be an issue when the suspect is Muslim and evidence collection is questioned.framer wrote: ↑Sep 26, 2020^These are all good suggestions, but don't leave out that the 3rd party should also be able to overturn any officer's inclusion on the list. "Questionable character" is at best a subjective trait.
Gardner is an absolute train wreck.
I blame Gardner absolutely zero for these lists, I blame the officers who put themselves in a position to be on one and the fact that 94% are able to do their job and not be on one tells me Gardner isn’t just putting people on them for the hack of it. These aren’t new or a Gardner thing, every CA/PA/DA has them
Damn. I suspect this gas station's tax base isn't covering its demand for services.
Stltoday - St. Louis pursues 'tedious' work, targeting problem properties that tax police
Stltoday - St. Louis pursues 'tedious' work, targeting problem properties that tax police
https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/cri ... 67d82.htmlThere's a gas station at a busy intersection of Gravois Avenue that St. Louis police know well — officers have been there nearly 700 times over the last 12 months.
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https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/28/upsh ... BrMwOrOuHK
“Murder is up 29 percent in Democrat-led cities in the sample and up 26 percent in cities with a Republican mayor relative to the same time frame in 2019, and five of the 13 cities on pace for record-high murder counts have Republican mayors.”
“Murder is up 29 percent in Democrat-led cities in the sample and up 26 percent in cities with a Republican mayor relative to the same time frame in 2019, and five of the 13 cities on pace for record-high murder counts have Republican mayors.”
STLToday: With nearly $14 million in St. Louis police overtime last year, Auditor faults department oversight
Over 1,200 employees of the police department were paid about $13.8 million in overtime in fiscal year 2019, Galloway’s office said. Eight employees doubled their salary using overtime, and an additional 99 earned at least an extra 50% of their base salary with overtime.
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And to quote IFL-Science "Sooner or later everyone who confuses correlation with causation will end up dead." Given that gem of a quote I don't have much faith in the article.dbInSouthCity wrote: ↑Sep 29, 2020https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/28/upsh ... BrMwOrOuHK
“Murder is up 29 percent in Democrat-led cities in the sample and up 26 percent in cities with a Republican mayor relative to the same time frame in 2019, and five of the 13 cities on pace for record-high murder counts have Republican mayors.”
^I agree. That sort of comparison is extremely stupid and makes me not want to read the rest of the article.
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^So what's the opposite of clickbait. Click repellent?
Glad to know we are in agreement about confusing correlation and causation. I don't want to end up dying from such a silly mistake. (And I won't. Though . . . yeah, never mind.)
Glad to know we are in agreement about confusing correlation and causation. I don't want to end up dying from such a silly mistake. (And I won't. Though . . . yeah, never mind.)
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So who do we complain to when Bridgeton PD literally punches one of my coworkers in the face during a traffic stop simply for mouthing off at them?
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Not sure this will help:Trololzilla wrote: ↑Oct 23, 2020So who do we complain to when Bridgeton PD literally punches one of my coworkers in the face during a traffic stop simply for mouthing off at them?
https://www.bridgetonmo.com/DocumentCen ... tement-PDF
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In all seriousness, file a complaint with the County police department as well as the Missouri State Police.
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Unfortunately it seems like my coworker doesn't want to make a bigger deal out of it and doesn't want to file a complaint so I'll respect their wishes, but I'll definitely regard those options if they do change their mind later on.
I think this happens more often than not - the individual not wanting to file a complaint because they believe nothing will happen.Trololzilla wrote: ↑Oct 24, 2020Unfortunately it seems like my coworker doesn't want to make a bigger deal out of it and doesn't want to file a complaint so I'll respect their wishes, but I'll definitely regard those options if they do change their mind later on.
More City/County dysfunction:
https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/met ... op-story-1
This bit was interesting.
https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/met ... op-story-1
This bit was interesting.
Patterson said the county’s rank and file may be willing to merge with St. Louis, but they wanted to be part of the decision.