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PostOct 21, 2012#26

innov8ion wrote:Lake Tahoe might not be too bad -- but just because it seems super freaking beautiful out there.

I've been to Tahoe a couple of times, and yes, it really is super freaking beautiful. Once inside a casino, however, you could just as well be anywhere.

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PostOct 21, 2012#27

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onecity wrote:Casinos are beneath us. Unless your dream is making the city trashier.
/making the city money
? Casino's don't make cities money. Perhaps tax money, but if the "city" is understood to be more than govt and includes residents and businesses, they casinos take money.

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PostOct 22, 2012#28

Alex Ihnen wrote:
rawest1 wrote:
onecity wrote:Casinos are beneath us. Unless your dream is making the city trashier.
/making the city money
? Casino's don't make cities money. Perhaps tax money, but if the "city" is understood to be more than govt and includes residents and businesses, they casinos take money.
Yeah, I meant tax money.

Also they seem employ a lot of people, for whatever that's worth.

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PostOct 22, 2012#29

Quid pro quo: The Casinos in Metro STL aren't going anywhere.

Meanwhile, the Casino Queen really is the lifeblood of the City of East Saint Louis. It is the largest funder of tax revenues to East STL by an order of magnitude (2005: $10.5M local tax monies allocated, pre-expansion), and it is the city's largest single employer, with over 1,000 jobs ongoing in East STL. It has been directly credited with reducing the City's property taxes, funding infrastructure repairs, and cleaning up abandoned buildings, as well as sponsoring community improvement programs.

Like it or not, East STL lives and dies on the Casino Queen.

Therefore, if there ever is to be expansion of casinos in the STL Metro Area, I strongly believe the best place for it would be in a clustered grouping of casinos directly north of the Dr. King Bridge near the riverfront (in a way that doesn't interfere with rail traffic) and possibly stretching all the way up to Route 3 north of 64/40.

These are the cities that could use the tax revenues the most, while not being necessarily full of people who will amble up to the tables regularly because they simply can't afford to. These taxes could increase policing and education while improving transportation infrastructure, all of which could combine to reinvent the Near East Side into an attractive place for new businesses and employers of the local talent base (warehousing and light manufacturing). At the same time, the tax burdens for property owners decreases strongly, easing the burdens already on these generally empoverished home owners (yes, I know most don't own but rent). Meanwhile, the site itself could feature hotels, a convention space, and plenty of tables to welcome in tourists (not the local market, already near saturation in exposure). Tie it into the Casino Queen's current location (with new roads under the Dr. King and Eads Bridges), and we could have a true district.

Seriously, think about it: East STL turns into an actual tourist destination, a legitimate one, with people ready to park their RVs and spend their monies on gambling, something they've intended to do already if they're traveling to "destination casinos" and for which we shouldn't feel taken advantage of. And in the process, the Near East Side pulls in revenues that they couldn't dream of before.

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PostJul 29, 2020#30

Draftkings is buying the Casino Queen and FanDuel is buying Fairmont Park? Is this the Onion?

https://www.actionnetwork.com/legal-onl ... eal-casino

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PostJul 29, 2020#31

moorlander wrote:
Jul 29, 2020
Draftkings is buying the Casino Queen and FanDuel is buying Fairmont Park?  Is this the Onion?

https://www.actionnetwork.com/legal-onl ... eal-casino
Draftkings is not buying the Casino Queen. 

Draftkings is entering a 5+ year deal to run the Casino Queen's retail sports book and in doing so will be able to operate their online platform throughout Illinois. Naming rights are also part of the deal, it will now be the Draftkings at Casino Queen.

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PostFeb 28, 2022#33

Maybe KC does, but I'm not sure St. Louis really "needs" it given that it's walking distance from downtown.

But it is stupid that Missouri is taking its time on this when it seems inevitable.

It's issues like this that make me not really understand the flag-waving freedom party. If you're going to base your whole identity on personal freedom regardless of consequences, then shouldn't nearly all activities between consenting adults be legal?

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PostFeb 17, 2024#34

It's total crap that I have to drive two miles over some imaginary line to bet $10 on some college hoops today. MOLeg needs to fast track this. Legalization has been endorsed by even the MOs sports team right? What's the hold up? Money probably? We've legalized weed so I don't think it's the "conservative" nature of the State government so I think there something else at play. Just get this done MOLeg damn.

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PostFeb 18, 2024#35

^ you don’t. Just use betonline. Sports betting and casino games.

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PostFeb 18, 2024#36

betonline is garbage

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PostFeb 18, 2024#37

leeharveyawesome wrote:It's total crap that I have to drive two miles over some imaginary line to bet $10 on some college hoops today. MOLeg needs to fast track this. Legalization has been endorsed by even the MOs sports team right? What's the hold up? Money probably? We've legalized weed so I don't think it's the "conservative" nature of the State government so I think there something else at play. Just get this done MOLeg damn.
Sports Betting keeps getting tied to Video Terminals my some rural legislators. VT is mostly unpopular

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PostFeb 18, 2024#38

To be clear, I'm talking about FanDuel and DraftKings which a person cannot currently use while physically being in the state of Missouri.

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PostFeb 19, 2024#39

ldai_phs wrote:
Feb 18, 2024
leeharveyawesome wrote:It's total crap that I have to drive two miles over some imaginary line to bet $10 on some college hoops today. MOLeg needs to fast track this. Legalization has been endorsed by even the MOs sports team right? What's the hold up? Money probably? We've legalized weed so I don't think it's the "conservative" nature of the State government so I think there something else at play. Just get this done MOLeg damn.
Sports Betting keeps getting tied to Video Terminals my some rural legislators. VT is mostly unpopular
Yes this is the issue.

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PostFeb 21, 2024#40

I guess the cat is out of the bag to some degree but sports betting, from what I have seen, pretty horrible.

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