^ does that hold if you look at the evolution of murder rates (per capita)? It may be a mechanical relationship due to population decline in the North and population growth in the Centre
Chrome-Plated Pistols and Pink Polos: The Face of Elite Panic in the USA
https://lithub.com/chrome-plated-pistol ... n-the-usa/
https://lithub.com/chrome-plated-pistol ... n-the-usa/
For some reason I can't quote the post about North Patrol vs. Central Patrol, but realize that the definitions of each region changed when they went from 9 districts to 6.
District 3 in South City went from South Patrol to Central Patrol, as an example.
District 3 in South City went from South Patrol to Central Patrol, as an example.
Three people were shot at City Garden Downtown last night.
There have been 116 homicides in the City so far this year, vs. 95 at the same time last year.
I think Neidorff may be packing his bags.
https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/cri ... e-trending
https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/cri ... op-story-1
There have been 116 homicides in the City so far this year, vs. 95 at the same time last year.
I think Neidorff may be packing his bags.
https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/cri ... e-trending
https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/cri ... op-story-1
If he’s looking to avoid crime and shootings there literally is no large city in America he can go to right now. Cities that are considered far safer and more “progressive” than STL are seeing bouts of violence just as bad and in some cases even worse than we are currently.framer wrote: ↑Jul 09, 2020Three people were shot at City Garden Downtown last night.
There have been 116 homicides in the City so far this year, vs. 95 at the same time last year.
I think Neidorff may be packing his bags.
https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/cri ... e-trending
https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/cri ... op-story-1
Maybe he’ll have better luck recruiting talent in Butte lol.
^^^^you joke, but a lot of people absolutely would, and are, choosing Butte over St. Louis.
^ I spoke my mind on Neidorff's comments in the Centene thread...I happen to agree with a lot of his criticism.
Doesn't mean St. Louisans can't chill on the incessant self-loathing bulls*it so many of us are always peddling though.
Doesn't mean St. Louisans can't chill on the incessant self-loathing bulls*it so many of us are always peddling though.
President Trump says federal government may "take over cities" to combat rising crime: "Numbers are going to be coming down even if we have to go and take over cities."
Meanwhile, two people were shot at Grand and Lindell yesterday evening. Eric Greitens, of all people, was the first to respond with first aid (both victims died).
Homicides are running 25% higher this year compared to last.
https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/cri ... op-story-1
Homicides are running 25% higher this year compared to last.
https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/cri ... op-story-1
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^Have to give it up to Greitens for what he did last night. He may be a weirdo governor (and certainly not a gentleman), but he has training in combat medicine and didn't hesitate to get into a hairy situation to help someone else.
Meanwhile...
^^ POTUS needs to learn what Federalism is. The Federal Government of the United States CANNOT take over an American City....
Unless he's declaring Martial Law, which is so extreme that W. wouldn't do to NOLA after Katrina even when she went underwater.
See: John Warner National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2007.
It's theoretically possible. What are the odds something like this gets activated?
Meanwhile...
^^ POTUS needs to learn what Federalism is. The Federal Government of the United States CANNOT take over an American City....
Unless he's declaring Martial Law, which is so extreme that W. wouldn't do to NOLA after Katrina even when she went underwater.
See: John Warner National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2007.
It's theoretically possible. What are the odds something like this gets activated?
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take this with a grain of salt, while Faughn is a right winger, he played a big hand in taking down Greitens...
It did feel weirdly reminiscent to the introductory subplot from this movie...dbInSouthCity wrote: ↑Jul 14, 2020take this with a grain of salt, while Faughn is a right winger, he played a big hand in taking down Greitens...
It's not exactly a big secret that Greitens desperately wants to mount a political comeback (I think he probably still secretly believes he's going to be president someday)...
SMH, when are they going to install turnstiles?
KMOV- 3 wounded in shooting on Poplar Street Bridge
https://www.kmov.com/news/3-wounded-in- ... 4d667.html
KMOV- Investigation underway after man shot on McKinley Bridge
https://www.kmov.com/news/investigation ... b125d.html
KMOV- 3 wounded in shooting on Poplar Street Bridge
https://www.kmov.com/news/3-wounded-in- ... 4d667.html
KMOV- Investigation underway after man shot on McKinley Bridge
https://www.kmov.com/news/investigation ... b125d.html
"Grim milestone for St. Louis: 15 child homicides in 2020 tops all of last year"
https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/cri ... fe9f9.html
https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/cri ... fe9f9.html
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In today’s news from Jefferson City where republicans plan to solve crime is to have strangers give kids guns.....
“The House also approved legislation allowing people to give firearms to children without their parents’ permission.” No typo there
https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/cri ... 94a6c.html
“The House also approved legislation allowing people to give firearms to children without their parents’ permission.” No typo there
https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/cri ... 94a6c.html
Rough weekend for the Tower Grove/FPSE areas: cops shot on Saturday night, triple shooting in The Grove, and shooting in TGP at 1pm yesterday.
Floridaman kills cop. Stay home loser! And it counts in our murder rate with our population denominator.
Stltoday - Suspect in shooting death of St. Louis officer recently skipped court in Florida assault case
https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/cri ... 28194.html
Stltoday - Suspect in shooting death of St. Louis officer recently skipped court in Florida assault case
https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/cri ... 28194.html
I remember a few years back having a conversation with some family members who live in JeffCo about living in the city. They are the standard come to the city for sports/events/the zoo and head back. Just like anything else, when your only understanding of an area is through the lens of media, stories, or otherwise second-hand, it be easy to have a perspective that is vastly different than my lived experience living in the city for the past 12 years.
However, this year has been rough for the city (and the metro-area at large). I live in Shaw and it's been quieter in my immediate neighborhood, but increasingly difficult to defend the city and its approach to addressing violent crime. We are lacking in leadership across the board. In particular:
-Political Leadership: I believe that Krewson has positive intentions, but she's in over her head. 2021 cannot come quickly enough. A more socially/media-savvy leader would be nice, too. I also pray that voters maintain the alderperson reduction. Fewer lords and ladies hovering over their fiefdoms can't make things any worse.
Civic Leadership: while this can be difficult given our silos, but I want to hear a vision for the city (in a perfect world, the city and county would do this together). Who do we want to be? I'd love to be part of that type of exercise. There are PLENTY of people in the area (including most of us) who would be perfect contributors to that process. Yea, we might be an overly-optimistic, less objective bunch related to the city and region, but who better than that to move us forward?
Community Leadership: I'd imagine that the alders would fit here, but I don't see/hear anything about this. What are we doing to address the obvious differences in experience between the white and black communities here? I realize we are in good company with the rest of the country here, but given our not-so-great reputation, let's be leaders here. I have high hopes for Cure Violence (or whatever program that's being implemented in north city), but we have to do more than that. If people don't feel like part of the system, or worse, that the "system" is not setup for them, then what motivates them to follow the "rules" of the system? As a result, some elect to create their own "systems". What we're apparently seeing here is people living next door to each other, but operating under different systems.
Business Leadership: I realize that the reason we don't have much of this now is, in part, due to what I mentioned above. However, we can't keep losing young professionals or being overlooked in business. I get it - if I don't know much about St. Louis, the things I do know aren't good. I'm sure we could all write War & Peace-length books detailing anecdotes of people who visit St. Louis for the first time saying things like "wow, it's a lot nicer here than I thought". However, I don't see much collaboration among the business community to portray our strengths. I'm not suggesting we overlook our weaknesses because they exist. Similar weaknesses exist in other cities too, though, but those places have rosier media coverage. Ultimately, the more people talent that we have in St. Louis, the better it bodes for all businesses.
I didn't initially intend to write this long of a tirade. Sorry if it's off-topic.
However, this year has been rough for the city (and the metro-area at large). I live in Shaw and it's been quieter in my immediate neighborhood, but increasingly difficult to defend the city and its approach to addressing violent crime. We are lacking in leadership across the board. In particular:
-Political Leadership: I believe that Krewson has positive intentions, but she's in over her head. 2021 cannot come quickly enough. A more socially/media-savvy leader would be nice, too. I also pray that voters maintain the alderperson reduction. Fewer lords and ladies hovering over their fiefdoms can't make things any worse.
Civic Leadership: while this can be difficult given our silos, but I want to hear a vision for the city (in a perfect world, the city and county would do this together). Who do we want to be? I'd love to be part of that type of exercise. There are PLENTY of people in the area (including most of us) who would be perfect contributors to that process. Yea, we might be an overly-optimistic, less objective bunch related to the city and region, but who better than that to move us forward?
Community Leadership: I'd imagine that the alders would fit here, but I don't see/hear anything about this. What are we doing to address the obvious differences in experience between the white and black communities here? I realize we are in good company with the rest of the country here, but given our not-so-great reputation, let's be leaders here. I have high hopes for Cure Violence (or whatever program that's being implemented in north city), but we have to do more than that. If people don't feel like part of the system, or worse, that the "system" is not setup for them, then what motivates them to follow the "rules" of the system? As a result, some elect to create their own "systems". What we're apparently seeing here is people living next door to each other, but operating under different systems.
Business Leadership: I realize that the reason we don't have much of this now is, in part, due to what I mentioned above. However, we can't keep losing young professionals or being overlooked in business. I get it - if I don't know much about St. Louis, the things I do know aren't good. I'm sure we could all write War & Peace-length books detailing anecdotes of people who visit St. Louis for the first time saying things like "wow, it's a lot nicer here than I thought". However, I don't see much collaboration among the business community to portray our strengths. I'm not suggesting we overlook our weaknesses because they exist. Similar weaknesses exist in other cities too, though, but those places have rosier media coverage. Ultimately, the more people talent that we have in St. Louis, the better it bodes for all businesses.
I didn't initially intend to write this long of a tirade. Sorry if it's off-topic.
191 homicides so far this year, vs. 138 last year. That's a 38% increase.
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and crime as a whole down 1.3% year to year....who knewframer wrote: ↑Sep 09, 2020191 homicides so far this year, vs. 138 last year. That's a 38% increase.
Agree with all of this. First and foremost we need a vocal leader that will address issues head-on. work regionally and deliver a vision for this area. St. Louis has all of the fundamentals in place. It just can't/won't get out of its own way.robbie wrote: ↑Aug 31, 2020I remember a few years back having a conversation with some family members who live in JeffCo about living in the city. They are the standard come to the city for sports/events/the zoo and head back. Just like anything else, when your only understanding of an area is through the lens of media, stories, or otherwise second-hand, it be easy to have a perspective that is vastly different than my lived experience living in the city for the past 12 years.
However, this year has been rough for the city (and the metro-area at large). I live in Shaw and it's been quieter in my immediate neighborhood, but increasingly difficult to defend the city and its approach to addressing violent crime. We are lacking in leadership across the board. In particular:
-Political Leadership: I believe that Krewson has positive intentions, but she's in over her head. 2021 cannot come quickly enough. A more socially/media-savvy leader would be nice, too. I also pray that voters maintain the alderperson reduction. Fewer lords and ladies hovering over their fiefdoms can't make things any worse.
Civic Leadership: while this can be difficult given our silos, but I want to hear a vision for the city (in a perfect world, the city and county would do this together). Who do we want to be? I'd love to be part of that type of exercise. There are PLENTY of people in the area (including most of us) who would be perfect contributors to that process. Yea, we might be an overly-optimistic, less objective bunch related to the city and region, but who better than that to move us forward?
Community Leadership: I'd imagine that the alders would fit here, but I don't see/hear anything about this. What are we doing to address the obvious differences in experience between the white and black communities here? I realize we are in good company with the rest of the country here, but given our not-so-great reputation, let's be leaders here. I have high hopes for Cure Violence (or whatever program that's being implemented in north city), but we have to do more than that. If people don't feel like part of the system, or worse, that the "system" is not setup for them, then what motivates them to follow the "rules" of the system? As a result, some elect to create their own "systems". What we're apparently seeing here is people living next door to each other, but operating under different systems.
Business Leadership: I realize that the reason we don't have much of this now is, in part, due to what I mentioned above. However, we can't keep losing young professionals or being overlooked in business. I get it - if I don't know much about St. Louis, the things I do know aren't good. I'm sure we could all write War & Peace-length books detailing anecdotes of people who visit St. Louis for the first time saying things like "wow, it's a lot nicer here than I thought". However, I don't see much collaboration among the business community to portray our strengths. I'm not suggesting we overlook our weaknesses because they exist. Similar weaknesses exist in other cities too, though, but those places have rosier media coverage. Ultimately, the more people talent that we have in St. Louis, the better it bodes for all businesses.
I didn't initially intend to write this long of a tirade. Sorry if it's off-topic.
As of September 9th, there have been 191 homicides in the City of St. Louis this year.
As of September 9th, there have been 191 COVID deaths in the City of St. Louis.
Just something to think about.
As of September 9th, there have been 191 COVID deaths in the City of St. Louis.
Just something to think about.
How many car crash deaths, drug overdose deaths, and suicides? #deathrace2020