I don't think it is good that the real estate listings for Cortex K can no longer be found on the internet. I hope that this project wasn't canceled. If it was, I hope Koman can consider building residential instead.
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If it is dead, this is a good reminder that until a building has broken ground and is actually being built, we shouldn't just accept fun renderings and lofty timelines at face value. Especially if there is no firm activity - verifiable tenants, building or other permits, etc.
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St. Louis should have learned that a long, long time ago.
I can't imagine that Cortex K will be gone for long. You have too much activity happening there on Sarah Street.
I can't imagine that Cortex K will be gone for long. You have too much activity happening there on Sarah Street.
...or really any statements from real estate developers, property owners, or their representatives.chaifetz10 wrote: If it is dead, this is a good reminder that until a building has broken ground and is actually being built, we shouldn't just accept fun renderings and lofty timelines at face value. Especially if there is no firm activity - verifiable tenants, building or other permits, etc.
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Nothing too exciting here (yet), but WashU has a dedicated internal webpage for 4370 Duncan now (the new Neuroscience building at Duncan and Newstead). Link to site: https://facilities.med.wustl.edu/planni ... -facility/ Looks like a Spring 2023 target for opening.
As for where they're at now, based on their own project schedule, the schematic designs should be wrapping up soon. Link: https://facilities.med.wustl.edu/wp-con ... hedule.pdf
As for where they're at now, based on their own project schedule, the schematic designs should be wrapping up soon. Link: https://facilities.med.wustl.edu/wp-con ... hedule.pdf
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Any update on their building at Forest Park and Taylor corner (in front of COP building)? It was 200-250k SF
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Nothing that I’ve heard, seen, or found. But could just be within the conceptual phase for now... not sure.
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It was in RFP for design stage in feb of 2018- https://facilities.med.wustl.edu/wp-con ... plate.docx
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Not exactly breaking or huge news, but land is being cleared at the NE corner of Clayton and Sarah. No permits showing online so don't get too excited - it could very well just be for staging equipment and materials for the new Duncan building.
What is being cleared? The NE corner is a gravel lot.chaifetz10 wrote: ↑Oct 12, 2019Not exactly breaking or huge news, but land is being cleared at the NE corner of Clayton and Sarah. No permits showing online so don't get too excited - it could very well just be for staging equipment and materials for the new Duncan building.
If you mean they are grading the site, its probably just to lay some more asphalt, because Midtown does not have enough asphalt, apparently.
If I said it once, I will say it again. With as much hype and work that is going into Cortex, it's not very urban.
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I tend to agree. I'm hoping that future phases will turn the pocket parks and green space into something users can appreciate a bit more, as right now it all seems a bit excessive.
^ Yeah, these complaints about Cortex not being urban enough are pretty well documented. Also well documented is that it's a 20+ year project. It's only about 10 years in. It will likely get a lot denser and more urban. The Sandcrawler building has some good height, and Koman's proposal for Sarah does too. It takes time to build big dense neighborhoods basically from scratch in a slow growth region like St. Louis.
We should be very happy the FTA doesn't measure land use decisions post-construction of new light rail stations. The act of building a 500+ car parking structure immediately adjacent to a new $15 million station is... brave. They don't want to be "urban" they want to be BJC.
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^^ And then we've also got the BJC building that is going to go somewhere in the Cortex footprint. Additionally, BJC seems to have plans for where the Goodwill is in Cortex.
Agreed. Still good for St. Louis to have a thriving suburban office park that’s centrally located and attracting a lot of jobs and investment. But what’s built so far just doesn’t seem to position it for its full potential long-term.ImprovSTL wrote:If I said it once, I will say it again. With as much hype and work that is going into Cortex, it's not very urban.
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I'd rather have this iteration of Cortex now and future potential requiring expansion outside of the Cortex boundaries. I view this as a positive - let Cortex hit critical mass and then push future investment dollars to the fringes of the CWE where it can have an even bigger impact.
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Looks like North of Downtown by the new Square HQ is positioning itself to relieve the pressure in Cortex when it is time
Anyone have updates on how the new Wexford building? Have they broken ground or simply did the soil testing as Chris noted earlier?chaifetz10 wrote: ↑Aug 20, 2019Correct - where this beauty is going:
And yes, Cortex did buy that location. There's no official word as to what they will do with the site, and last I heard there wasn't an official closing date for Goodwill either. But wouldn't surprise me if there's movement there soon too.
As per the current conversation, Cortex filling in the spots with structures like this full of jobs will only support thriving more dense urban areas that you already see happening with CWE, FPSE and maybe spill into Fountain Park area, etc.. CORTEX doesn't need to be full of high rises whether it be for office or residential in my opinion.
There has been site prep at the 4210 Duncan site. No foundation drilling yet. They may be leveling the land off.
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But definitely not a suburban office park either. I'd give it a solid B in terms of planning. Hopefully they can get the Boyle/Duncan building going at the heart of the district... that should be a nice boost.
One thing they will need to figure out though is how to get more workers out of their cars and onto bike/ped and transit... things are already getting bad with auto traffic and it's only going to get worse as more jobs and buildings come online.
