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If WN plans to open three more gates down D, will that mean D22-D26 will become E42-E46? This expansion into D makes me wonder if they eventually will just rename D to E concourse, or they will somehow split it. Personally, I would be confused if there was A,B,C, and E, but no D.

Do you think they would re-open the west part of D just so there is access between both terminals? By that time, more than half of D will be open. Maybe they can just leave it unrenovated.

Perseus767 wrote: ↑

Mar 20, 2019

If WN plans to open three more gates down D, will that mean D22-D26 will become E42-E46? This expansion into D makes me wonder if they eventually will just rename D to E concourse, or they will somehow split it. Personally, I would be confused if there was A,B,C, and E, but no D.

Do you think they would re-open the west part of D just so there is access between both terminals? By that time, more than half of D will be open. Maybe they can just leave it unrenovated.

Yes to renaming them.

I don't think losing D would matter. If no one has a gate named D to go to then no one will know the difference. They only want to know where their gate is anyway.

And yes, I think when the next bank of gates is opened, they will open it back up.

STL posted February, 2019 numbers on social media. Things continue to go well.


St. Louis Lambert International Airport
29 mins ·
Cruising through winter with 42 straight months of total passenger growth at #stlairport. Feb 2019 logging in at 1,061,356 passengers for 4.9% increase. YTD - 3.6% increase. http://bit.ly/STLReports Mayor Lyda Krewson City of St. Louis

Hmm. According to this official AA fleet summary, AA is looking to add another 22 787-8s to its fleet by 2021. As BA has its last 787-8 now, should STL be its next choice for a TATL flight to Heathrow, then I would expect that announcement sometime within the next five months. If STL isn't announced this year, then we're likely never going to get a flight on BA. It may be more likely now that any flights to London come via AA, particularly given the fleet compositions a few years out, the ability for the two airlines to codeshare, and AA's familiarity with the airport/Concourse C.

Can't say I'd complain with AA over BA. Honestly, that might even be a good thing with how much BA's in-flight service has declined recently (at least according to a fair amount of travelers).

We'll just have to see what happens, I suppose.

Any developments on the Condor to Frankfurt front? I thought I saw something not too long ago that the airport was still invested in negotiating with DE for a flight.

Here's an interesting note on STL's arrival board today.

Mar 28 2:40 am Jacksonville Delta #6160 A3 5 On time


Anyone have any insights on this? Military perhaps?

frequentflyer wrote: ↑

Mar 27, 2019

Here's an interesting note on STL's arrival board today.

Mar 28 2:40 am Jacksonville Delta #6160 A3 5 On time


Anyone have any insights on this? Military perhaps?

I thought it was just Gojet subbing out a plane and bringing it back here to base but they same plane runs down and back late at night multiple times a week. So I have no clue. odd.

Wow is done. Icelandic is offering discounted tickets for return trips.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/budget-a ... oRUEHKXST0

The budget airline Wow air has collapsed, leaving passengers stranded after all flights were cancelled.

The Icelandic carrier became the latest airline to cease operations today, abruptly announcing its closure just hours after saying it had suspended flights to raise funds.

Many customers took to social media in disbelief on discovering their flights to and from Iceland had been cancelled altogether, with the airline advising passengers to search for flights elsewhere.

The announcement will also come as a devastating blow to around 1,000 staff at the airline. The firm had already revealed plans to cut 111 jobs and cut its fleet size to 11 planes to reduce costs.


https://www.icelandair.com/support/cont ... getmehome/

As a result of WOW air’s operational halt, we have set up discounted Economy fares for stranded passengers en route to, from, or through Iceland. These fares will only be available for passengers who have a return ticket with WOW air between 28 March and 11 April 2019.

The price for the discounted fare tickets will be priced at USD 60 (excluding taxes and fees) to Europe, and to US/Canada, the price will be USD 100 (excluding taxes and fees).

jshank83 wrote: ↑

Mar 28, 2019

Was just looking thru flights to Europe this summer and holy cow they are way higher than last year. Not having WOW def hurts in that respect, it did help bring down other airlines. Last year you could get to Europe under 1000 fairly easily. I flew to AMS (even in comfort + one way) for under 1000.

This summer:
KC flights (on Delta. AA, etc) to London are in the 600-800 range. For us 1400.
Paris- KC 800. STL-Paris 1100.

That is a huge fare difference, enough to justify a drive to save costs especially if its more than one traveling. This brings up the idea again demand to/from overseas could be underestimated from people driving elsewhere to catch a much cheaper flight.

Just a heads up that TAP Air Portugal is now starting to fly ORD-LIS and depending on when you want to go, you can find really low fares. I am doing ORD-OPO for $550 roundtrip in November, and you can also find very low fares to major European cities from ORD, connecting in LIS.

For anyone interested in when STL will re-open the old D pathway, here's a reply the airport posted on Twitter.

STL Airport
‏@flystl
1 hr ago

We are always working to improve the passenger experience at STL! Opening the D Concourse would require significant renovations. We are in the early stages of improving baggage claim and addressing the traffic & parking concerns in T2. We appreciate your patience!

Thanks for the share. I noticed someone also asked about a tour of D, but STL replied back with tours are "Classified". Wonder why... I've been thinking about asking for a tour myself.

[From the Freight Development and Needs Analysis Committee Meeting] Rhonda Hamm-Niebruegge is heading to Mexico City in the next few days to iron out details on a duel customs agreement, paving the way for the potential of additional trade between St. Louis and Mexico.

Good news on the trade front. This will be timely for the new cargo facility.

Growth is coming to STL,even if it's just in terms of infrastructure and incremental upgrades to services/amenities.

I don't know about anyone else, but I'm disappointed they haven't opened the new C gates yet, or if they have, there's no announcement about it. I just felt like something major was going to happen when those gates opened. After no announcement about C27/28 opening, it just seems like a major letdown.

I'm assuming that new food venue to be installed in the old T3 Chapel should open any day now. I can't imagine why it's taking this long. The space isn't that big. Anyone hear any word on what the new venue might be? This is being held pretty tightly under wraps -- why I don't know.

frequentflyer wrote: ↑

Apr 03, 2019

I don't know about anyone else, but I'm disappointed they haven't opened the new C gates yet, or if they have, there's no announcement about it. I just felt like something major was going to happen when those gates opened. After no announcement about C27/28 opening, it just seems like a major letdown.

I'm assuming that new food venue to be installed in the old T3 Chapel should open any day now. I can't imagine why it's taking this long. The space isn't that big. Anyone hear any word on what the new venue might be? This is being held pretty tightly under wraps -- why I don't know.

I emailed someone at the airport a few weeks ago. They are still hadn't signed off on having the C30 jetbridge installed (but they have a contractor picked). So, I would think that would happen soon-ish. As for opening, I haven't heard anything. Originally it was March, so it should be getting close. I asked about airlines and they wouldn't let anything slip (not that I expected them to)

I still have no clue why the airport keeps the chapel restaurant secret. There is no reason to keep it under wraps at this point. Indy just released like 12 new restaurants they are getting in the future. STL has to be the most tight lipped, non promotional, airport in the country about things that there is no reason to keep secret. The marketing department could do a better job listening to customers and figuring out what really should be kept secret and what they should be drumming up excitement about. But the rest of that rant I will save for another day.

Matthew Hibbard wrote: [From the Freight Development and Needs Analysis Committee Meeting] Rhonda Hamm-Niebruegge is heading to Mexico City in the next few days to iron out details on a duel customs agreement, paving the way for the potential of additional trade between St. Louis and Mexico.

So is this new cargo thing that came out in January actually happening this time?

jshank83 wrote: ↑

Apr 03, 2019

frequentflyer wrote: ↑

Apr 03, 2019

I don't know about anyone else, but I'm disappointed they haven't opened the new C gates yet, or if they have, there's no announcement about it. I just felt like something major was going to happen when those gates opened. After no announcement about C27/28 opening, it just seems like a major letdown.

I'm assuming that new food venue to be installed in the old T2 Chapel should open any day now. I can't imagine why it's taking this long. The space isn't that big. Anyone hear any word on what the new venue might be? This is being held pretty tightly under wraps -- why I don't know.

I emailed someone at the airport a few weeks ago. They are still hadn't signed off on having the C30 jetbridge installed (but they have a contractor picked). So, I would think that would happen soon-ish. As for opening, I haven't heard anything. Originally it was March, so it should be getting close. I asked about airlines and they wouldn't let anything slip (not that I expected them to)

I still have no clue why the airport keeps the chapel restaurant secret. There is no reason to keep it under wraps at this point. Indy just released like 12 new restaurants they are getting in the future. STL has to be the most tight lipped, non promotional, airport in the country about things that there is no reason to keep secret. The marketing department could do a better job listening to customers and figuring out what really should be kept secret and what they should be drumming up excitement about. But the rest of that rant I will save for another day.

Matthew Hibbard wrote: [From the Freight Development and Needs Analysis Committee Meeting] Rhonda Hamm-Niebruegge is heading to Mexico City in the next few days to iron out details on a duel customs agreement, paving the way for the potential of additional trade between St. Louis and Mexico.

So is this new cargo thing that came out in January actually happening this time?

The secrecy is ridiculous, given that the airport is a public good. It's also stupid, because what do they think is going to happen? Is someone going to be ANOTHER airport in St. Louis with the exact same vendors?

On another note, did you get the chance to listen to today's meeting? The agenda certainly didn't say anything interesting.

^ I haven’t. They usually post it later in the week. If anything interesting happens I’ll make a post about it.

What are the chances that a St. Louis-Mexico cargo hub would boost hispanic population in the metro area?

KansasCitian wrote: ↑

Apr 04, 2019

What are the chances that a St. Louis-Mexico cargo hub would boost hispanic population in the metro area?

Depends on the border situation

I would like to think that there's a good chance that St. Louis could receive the same bump in hispanic population that has seemingly missed them and gone elsewhere.

It would be great for local population numbers, local economy, and local culture.

I really hope it happens.