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^ I don't think they'll have problem leasing the additional office space; the issue is will it be others from downtown (boo!) or from outside (yeah!).. Supposedly they're supposed to be having an announcement on some tenants before long; I guess we'll see.

chaifetz10 wrote:I got a leasing email today so it seems that people can start choosing units and putting down deposits. I bet all the units overlooking the stadium go quickly.

Me too.

“You are one step closer to becoming a part of the Cardinals family! Pricing is available and we are now taking reservations for specific apartment homes.

Beginning today, you can secure the apartment of your choice and lock in your rental rate. Once applications and leases are available later this month, you will be able to complete your application and sign your lease. Because you have chosen to join our list, you will have first choice until we offer this ability to the general public beginning in March.”

Then they have a phone number and email to contact. I’m guessing monthly rent will be steep.


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I'll be curious how much different the rent is for the different sides of the buildings.

I wish some of the units were condos

moorlander wrote:I wish some of the units were condos

Maybe Two Cardinal Way

They can always sell them as condos later if the demand is there.

jshank83 wrote: ↑

Feb 02, 2018

I'll be curious how much different the rent is for the different sides of the buildings.

Are people really going to pay that much more to see the stadium in use?

You can't honestly watch the game from there, right? And have an enjoyable experience?

bwcrow1s wrote: ↑

Feb 02, 2018

jshank83 wrote: ↑

Feb 02, 2018

I'll be curious how much different the rent is for the different sides of the buildings.

Are people really going to pay that much more to see the stadium in use?

You can't honestly watch the game from there, right? And have an enjoyable experience?

It's more of a status or ambiance thing. I am surprised they didn't do condos for the top floors.

They will ABSOLUTELY be charging more for Stadium side units. If Mansion House and Gentry's Landing can charge $50 more a month for Arch views, then people will pay quite well for views of home plate. I'm not even that big of a Cardinals fan and I'd grab one of these units in a heart beat if I could.

Don't Arch views typically command a premium? Many units on the other side will have Arch views.

I know a former Cardinal player who lives in Pointe 400. They chose a unit facing the Arch, because they didn't want the distractions of the Stadium side (fireworks, etc). I guess everyone has their preferences.

Valid points, I retract my comment lol

Anyone have any updates? For how much activity their was throughout the process to this point it is extremely quiet around here with actual construction happening!

I haven't been able to find a webcam for this either. Anybody else have better luck?

There appear to be a couple of pile drivers. I was just driving past, and it was cold and too dark for decent photos with my phone, so I didn't tarry. But here's a grab:



I'm guessing that's very initial foundation work on the residential tower.

newstl2020 wrote:Anyone have any updates? For how much activity their was throughout the process to this point it is extremely quiet around here with actual construction happening!

I haven't been able to find a webcam for this either. Anybody else have better luck?

A friend of mine who works on site says that the foundations are complete for the Residential Tower and the Office Building and that we should see a crane on site by months end. I find it hard to believe that the residential tower is actually ready to rise as the current cranes on that site haven’t moved since they were put in place. Also, only a little bit of dirt was turned closest to Clark Street the last time I was there. To see what they are doing, I go to the top of the Busch Garages. The last time I visited was two weeks ago and it appeared that the only structure that really had any kind of movement was the office/Hotel portion. The residential tower still has black top from the lot!

I haven't seen any changes on the apartment tower site in a month. There's been plenty of drilling on the hotel/office site, but definitely not complete. Doesn't even look like half complete yet. That would be the quickest foundations I have ever seen if so.

chaifetz10 wrote: ↑

Feb 07, 2018

If they're not going to have any below ground parking, then I guess it's plausible that they foundation could be completed? It would be as simple as just driving the piles down deep enough and then pouring a slab base, correct? I know that's what they did for BPV phase 1.

I think your right on. Looks like a piling driving rig in the photo. Simply put, friction pilings and or going to bedrock with pilings is much less intensive then putting in underground parking and the additional excavation & foundation work that you see on other projects. Also have to remember that a lot of pre site and utility relocation work was done prior to the temporary surface parking lot was put in place as part of the deal.

dredger wrote: ↑

Feb 07, 2018

I think your right on. Looks like a piling driving rig in the photo. Simply put, friction pilings and or going to bedrock with pilings is much less intensive then putting in underground parking and the additional excavation & foundation work that you see on other projects. Also have to remember that a lot of pre site and utility relocation work was done prior to the temporary surface parking lot was put in place as part of the deal.

I thought that was a pile driver when they were assembling it, but when they raised it up on the crane it's actually a drill. No piles have been driven so far that I have seen. But definitely no excavation for any levels below ground thus far. Drilled piers all around.

I learned that move-in date for first residents in the apartment tower is May 2020.


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