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PostOct 04, 2017#276

Per PD,

Site selection will be finalized next week. DT, NR, ESTL proposal is the leading contender.

I know we've said it numerous times before, but I think we are a very serious contender.

Does anyone know what time next year Amazon will announce their decision?

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PostOct 04, 2017#277

A little off topic but
Back Up plan????

Sprint/T-Mobile merger: Scouting a likely HQ

https://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/new ... ly-hq.html

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PostOct 04, 2017#278

Use the momentum from this effort to get a merged Sprint/Tmobile. Why not both?

I know we've said it numerous times before, but I think we are a very serious contender.

Does anyone know what time next year Amazon will announce their decision?
I too think we're seriously in this. Amazon has said sometime next year. I think first half of 2018 is likely.

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hoffa270 wrote:A little ooff topic but
Back Up plan????

Sprint/T-Mobile merger: Scouting a likely HQ

https://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/new ... ly-hq.html

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This would spell bad news for Kansas City.


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^ I'd put Saint Louis in the grouping of cities in the category of "Cheap Options" and seriously doubt Amazon is considering this group. I think they just want as much subsidy help as they colonize another fancy, en vougue city with millions of square feet of urban real estate. However, if it does want to go the non-traditional, cheap route I think we would have a decent chance.

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STLrainbow wrote:
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^ I'd put Saint Louis in the grouping of cities in the category of "Cheap Options" and seriously doubt Amazon is considering this group. I think they just want as much subsidy help as they colonize another fancy, en vougue city with millions of square feet of urban real estate. However, if it does want to go the non-traditional, cheap route I think we would have a decent chance.
Was Seattle really fashionable before they planted roots there?

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hoffa270 wrote:
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A little ooff topic but
Back Up plan????

Sprint/T-Mobile merger: Scouting a likely HQ

https://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/new ... ly-hq.html

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Amazon must at least have cellular service on its radar since T-Mobile/Sprint Seattle Base HQ would fit nicely into Jeff's expanding empire of selling and controlling everything.

I would agree with Chalupas54. KC will experience some of the bad outcome of a merger that has rock St Louis more than a few times including Charter announcing its new HQ & St Louis wasn't even on the radar/consideration. But as Rainbow noted, St Louis as well as KC are the cheap places to do business so the Sprint/T-Mobile call center and some of the back office/IT type work will stay in KC

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bwcrow1s wrote:
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STLrainbow wrote:
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^ I'd put Saint Louis in the grouping of cities in the category of "Cheap Options" and seriously doubt Amazon is considering this group. I think they just want as much subsidy help as they colonize another fancy, en vougue city with millions of square feet of urban real estate. However, if it does want to go the non-traditional, cheap route I think we would have a decent chance.
Was Seattle really fashionable before they planted roots there?
Yes. Seattle has had a hip factor for some time and as for tech/start-ups Amazon was just one of dozens of companies following up on Microsoft that made Seattle a real player. Of course it was the company that took the city to a whole nother level but I don't think it was any kind of surprise that it chose Seattle.

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bwcrow1s wrote:
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STLrainbow wrote:
Oct 04, 2017
^ I'd put Saint Louis in the grouping of cities in the category of "Cheap Options" and seriously doubt Amazon is considering this group. I think they just want as much subsidy help as they colonize another fancy, en vougue city with millions of square feet of urban real estate. However, if it does want to go the non-traditional, cheap route I think we would have a decent chance.
Was Seattle really fashionable before they planted roots there?
Microsoft, Starbucks, Boeing, Eddie Bauer, Nintendo of America, United Airlines, Costco - All had a presence in Seattle before Amazon did

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^ And let's not forget culturally things like the coffee and huge grunge scenes and "Sleepless in Seattle" made the city very much in the nation's consciousness as an "it" place before Amazon was around.

Too bad Hanks and Ryan didn't have the Arch as the setpiece instead of that damn needle. :lol:

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bwcrow1s wrote:
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Was Seattle really fashionable before they planted roots there?


^Speaks for itself. :lol:

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PostOct 04, 2017#287

Well, you all educated me. Thanks.

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PostOct 04, 2017#288

In a Seinfeld episode from 1991, Jerry says "everybody's moving to Seattle", while George calls it the "pesto of cities".

Amazon started in Jeff Bezo's garage in Bellevue, WA, in 1994.

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Also, don't forget the sitcom Fraiser (1993-2004). On one hand I say that tongue-and-cheek, but on the other hand, Seattle played a very visible role in this witty, long running, popular TV comedy series starring uptown sophisticates.

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From the Amazon rfp:
In choosing the location for HQ2, Amazon has a preference for:
 Metropolitan areas with more than one million people
 A stable and business-friendly environment
 Urban or suburban locations with the potential to attract and retain strong technical talent
 Communities that think big and creatively when considering locations and real estate options
HQ2 could be, but does not have to be:
 An urban or downtown campus
 A similar layout to Amazon’s Seattle campus
 A development-prepped site. We want to encourage states/provinces and communities to think
creatively for viable real estate options, while not negatively affecting our preferred timeline
Building/Site Requirements: Amazon is considering greenfield sites, infill sites, existing buildings, or a
combination for the Project. If existing buildings are available that can be retrofitted/expanded within
an acceptable budget and time schedule, Amazon may consider this option; however, the company
acknowledges that existing buildings may not be available to meet its requirements. As such, Amazon
will prioritize certified or shovel-ready greenfield sites and infill opportunities with appropriate
infrastructure and ability to meet the Project’s timeline and development demands, as set forth
below.
The following is a summary of the Project’s ideal site and building requirements:
Core Preferences Quantity Units Description
Site Requirements
Proximity to population center 30 Miles
Proximity to International airport Within approx. 45 Minutes
Proximity to major highways and arterial roads Not more than 1-2 Miles
Close to major arterial roads to provide optimal access
Access to mass transit At site
Direct access to rail, train, subway/metro,bus routes
Building Requirements
Initial Square Foot Requirement 500,000+ Sq. Ft. Phase I (2019)
Total Square Foot
Requirement Up to 8,000,000 Sq. Ft. Beyond 2027
Priority for Consideration (in no particular order):
Amazon will consider the following site/building categories for the Project:
1. Existing buildings of at least 500,000+ sq. ft., meeting the core requirements described
above and that are expandable or have additional options for developmentnearby.
2. A greenfield site of approximately 100 acres certified or pad ready, with utility infrastructure
in place. The sites do not have to be contiguous, but should be in proximity to each other to
foster a sense of place and be pedestrian-friendly.
3. Other infill, existing buildings, including opportunities for renovation/redevelopment and
greenfield sites, meeting the proximity and logistics requirements of the Project. This can
also be a combination of the above.
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4. Please also consider the overall proximity of the buildings at full build-out as you are making
recommendations
Additional Information:
Sustainability: Amazon is committed to sustainability efforts. Amazon’s buildings in its current
Seattle campus are sustainable and energy-efficient. The buildings’ interiors feature salvaged and
locally sourced woods, energy-efficient lighting, composting and recycling alternatives as well as
public plazas and pockets of green space. Twenty of the buildings in our Seattle campus were built
using LEED standards. Additionally, Amazon’s newest buildings use a ‘District Energy’ system that
utilizes recycled heat from a nearby non-Amazon data center to heat millions of square feet of office
space – a system that is about 4x more efficient than traditional heating. This system is designed to
allow Amazon to warm just over 4 million square feet of office space on Amazon’s four-block
campus, saving 80 million kilowatt-hours over 20 years, or about 4 million kilowatt-hours a year. We
also invest in large solar and wind operations and were the largest corporate purchaser of
renewable energy in the U.S. in 2016. Amazon will develop HQ2 with a dedication to sustainability.
Connectivity: Ensuring optimal fiber connectivity is paramount at our HQ2 location. Please
demonstrate the fiber connectivity on all submitted sites. Also, demonstrate multiple cellular phone
coverage maps to ensure optimal service.
KEY PREFERENCES AND DECISION DRIVERS
The below are our preferences and are not in a ranking order. We want to encourage you to think
big and be creative as you are collaborating to respond. Please address the drivers discussed
below in your RFP submittals.
Site/Building – As described herein, finding suitable buildings/sites is of paramount importance.
Amazon HQ2 is a transformational Project, and we must ensure we have the best real estate
options available whether this be a redevelopment opportunity, a partnership with the state,
province, local government, or new buildings. All options are under consideration.
Capital and Operating Costs – A stable and business-friendly environment and tax structure will be
high-priority considerations for the Project. Incentives offered by the state/province and local
communities to offset initial capital outlay and ongoing operational costs will be significant factors in
the decision-making process.
Incentives – Identify incentive programs available for the Project at the state/province and local
levels. Outline the type of incentive (i.e. land, site preparation, tax credits/exemptions, relocation
grants, workforce grants, utility incentives/grants, permitting, and fee reductions) and the amount.
The initial cost and ongoing cost of doing business are critical decision drivers.
Labor Force – The Project includes significant employment requirements at the threshold
compensation levels described herein and with corresponding educational attainment of the
available workforce. The Project must be sufficiently close to a significant population center, such
that it can fill the 50,000 estimated jobs that will be required over multiple years. A highly educated
labor pool is critical and a strong university system is required.
Logistics – Personnel travel and logistics needs, both from population centers to the Project site, as
well as between company facilities, are critically important. As such, travel time to a major highway
corridor and arterial roadway capacity potential are key factors. The highway corridors must provide
direct access to significant population centers with eligible employment pools. Travel time to an
international airport with daily direct flights to Seattle, New York, San Francisco/Bay Area, and
Washington, D.C. is also an important consideration.
Time to Operations – The Project requires an expeditious timetable for the location decision and
the commencement of construction. Given this, sites with the requisite access, utility
infrastructure, and zoning are critical. Please outline the permitting process and estimated
timetable to initiate Phase I of our operations.
Cultural Community Fit – The Project requires a compatible cultural and community environment for
its long-term success. This includes the presence and support of a diverse population, excellent
institutions of higher education, local government structure and elected officials eager and willing to
work with the company, among other attributes. A stable and consistent business climate is
important to Amazon. Please demonstrate characteristics of this in your response. We encourage
testimonials from other large companies.
Community/Quality of Life – The Project requires a significant number of employees. We want to
invest in a community where our employees will enjoy living, recreational opportunities, educational
opportunities, and an overall high quality of life. Tell us what is unique about your community.

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Mayor Krewson getting ahead of herself with comments to PD? Can picture a group of area politicians stating the regions proposal is not finalized yet which would be typical of regions internal fiefdom politics. Downtown, its available ready to use office space, amenities & connections to Lambert, and central location within the region plenty of expandable space nearby (include Gov Rauner supporting a St louis choice) by far the best choice IMO. In same the paragraph, Mo Gov and Statehouse have extremely quiet.

http://www.stltoday.com/business/local/ ... e-latest-1

Mayor Lyda Krewson said Wednesday that downtown St. Louis, the riverfront north of downtown and East St. Louis will be part of a regional plan being crafted to try to attract Amazon to put its second headquarters here.

“We’ve all come together on that, and those certainly are going to be part of the proposal,” she said of those three locations. “We’re just fine-tuning it right now

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Even if St.Louis doesn't make the cut theres still a lot of reasons to be optimistic here with all the smaller developments adding up and the bingers ones coming to fruition i will go on to say St.Louis is definitely the most under the radar city in the country.

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PostOct 05, 2017#293

dredger wrote:Mayor Krewson getting ahead of herself with comments to PD? Can picture a group of area politicians stating the regions proposal is not finalized yet which would be typical of regions internal fiefdom politics. Downtown, its available ready to use office space, amenities & connections to Lambert, and central location within the region plenty of expandable space nearby (include Gov Rauner supporting a St louis choice) by far the best choice IMO. In same the paragraph, Mo Gov and Statehouse have extremely quiet.

http://www.stltoday.com/business/local/ ... e-latest-1

Mayor Lyda Krewson said Wednesday that downtown St. Louis, the riverfront north of downtown and East St. Louis will be part of a regional plan being crafted to try to attract Amazon to put its second headquarters here.

“We’ve all come together on that, and those certainly are going to be part of the proposal,” she said of those three locations. “We’re just fine-tuning it right now
Actually, odds are she’s not getting ahead of herself. I believe sit selection is/was finalized in the past few days...STL Partnership was filming promotional videos at 360 today. I also have heard that HOK did some “mock renderings” to show was a fully realized Amazon STL HQ could look like.

I honestly expected regional fiefdom to be WAYY worse in this than it has been. Sheila Sweeney is literally whipping everything into line from what I’ve seen.



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PostOct 05, 2017#294

Chalupas54 wrote:
Oct 05, 2017
dredger wrote:Mayor Krewson getting ahead of herself with comments to PD? Can picture a group of area politicians stating the regions proposal is not finalized yet which would be typical of regions internal fiefdom politics. Downtown, its available ready to use office space, amenities & connections to Lambert, and central location within the region plenty of expandable space nearby (include Gov Rauner supporting a St louis choice) by far the best choice IMO. In same the paragraph, Mo Gov and Statehouse have extremely quiet.

http://www.stltoday.com/business/local/ ... e-latest-1

Mayor Lyda Krewson said Wednesday that downtown St. Louis, the riverfront north of downtown and East St. Louis will be part of a regional plan being crafted to try to attract Amazon to put its second headquarters here.

“We’ve all come together on that, and those certainly are going to be part of the proposal,” she said of those three locations. “We’re just fine-tuning it right now
Actually, odds are she’s not getting ahead of herself. I believe sit selection is/was finalized in the past few days...STL Partnership was filming promotional videos at 360 today. I also have heard that HOK did some “mock renderings” to show was a fully realized Amazon STL HQ could look like.

I honestly expected regional fiefdom to be WAYY worse in this than it has been. Sheila Sweeney is literally whipping everything into line from what I’ve seen.



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I would hope they would have it narrowed down by now. They don't have much time left to finish up.

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PostOct 05, 2017#295

Including ESTL could be a huge win if we can get tax incentives from both MO and IL. Spread out the tax burden between the two states and still reap the benefits of the influx of employees and new residents to the area.

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PostOct 05, 2017#296

framer wrote:
Oct 04, 2017

Amazon started in Jeff Bezo's garage in Bellevue, WA, in 1994.
I believe he moved to Seattle with the intent of starting Amazon (or whatever Amazon was called/intended to be called before it was Amazon). It wasn't random. Something to do with available tech workers from Microsoft and a huge book distributor nearby in Oregon.

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PostOct 05, 2017#297

chaifetz10 wrote:
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Including ESTL could be a huge win if we can get tax incentives from both MO and IL. Spread out the tax burden between the two states and still reap the benefits of the influx of employees and new residents to the area.
I think it'd be great to eventually see the other side of the river developed. Just not sure what construction might look like.

Something on the north riverfront and something immediately opposite, and Metro can connect both ends through the Eads. Just worried it would feel really vacant and odd, especially with the Queen right there, and the random industrial sites.

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bwcrow1s wrote:
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chaifetz10 wrote:
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Including ESTL could be a huge win if we can get tax incentives from both MO and IL. Spread out the tax burden between the two states and still reap the benefits of the influx of employees and new residents to the area.
I think it'd be great to eventually see the other side of the river developed. Just not sure what construction might look like.

Something on the north riverfront and something immediately opposite, and Metro can connect both ends through the Eads. Just worried it would feel really vacant and odd, especially with the Queen right there, and the random industrial sites.
I think if they build it with things on both sides of the river and connect it through the metrolink/eads it will look okay. It might look odd from a top down view but if Amazon wants part of the development to be a bigger campus feel, that is probably the best place for it. There is a lot of room over there, but it is still easily connected to downtown.

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PostOct 05, 2017#299

I can't wait to see the HOK drawings just to imagine what it could look like.

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PostOct 05, 2017#300

Amazon could dominate the core of Downtown, and the Gateway Mall could be their de facto campus.

Start with the ATT Tower, then build right across the Gateway Mall on the (mostly) vacant lot at 10th and Market, then the three blocks of Ballpark Village Phase III, then the Mike Shannon's site at 7th St., and finally replace the garages on Chestnut between Broadway and 7th.

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