To help get Wow Air to begin the regular flights from St. Louis to Iceland that were announced last week, local officials pledged $800,000 in marketing incentives plus a waiver of 18 months of landing fees that could amount to $392,000.
But the budget airline, through which travelers can connect from Iceland to several European cities, isn’t getting all the money up front. And it must meet certain requirements.
Jeff Lea, a spokesman for St. Louis Lambert International Airport, said Wow Air must continue flying here for two years after its expected start of service next May to get the landing fees waived.
If it doesn’t meet its two-year obligation, he said, it will be required to pay fees for all its landings.
The marketing money — $200,000 from Lambert and $600,000 from the St. Louis County Port Authority — is to be paid in increments over the same two-year period.
The money wouldn’t go to the airline directly but to ad agencies or other third-party service providers hired by Wow to market its St. Louis service.
The airline’s agreement with the county requires Wow to first win county World Trade Center approval of a comprehensive marketing plan.
Wow could qualify for six quarterly county installments of up to $100,000 each over two years but only after the Lambert incentives were used first.
But an installment would be reduced proportionally if Wow failed to maintain an average of 3.5 departures from Lambert a week during the quarter-year in question. Last week’s announcement said Wow would begin four flights a week on May 17.
The agreement also says the incentive deal terminates if the airline fails to initiate service on the new route by July 1 and does not continuously operate. Ceasing flight operations at Lambert also would void the agreement.
The port authority and the trade center are both part of the city-county Economic Development Partnership.
^ Interesting is how it shows its in the scheme of things not much overall and is focused on advertising the service which would be the way to stimulate demand as well overall for others to enter. Other articles seem to point towards the advertising is going to be focused in Europe in a number of markets and this article seems to point this is a year round service. Will be interesting to see if they have issues in winter running it due to headwinds and range. Other articles I've read on this seems to point towards other money will be around and efforts to get other airlines to start TATL service in the future.
Interesting is in todays announcement, is they refereed to Sacramento as a "Bay Area" airport. Between the WOW announcement and next spring there will be service to SFO, OAK, SJC, and SMF at the same time, starting to see some things occur that never happened during the height of the TWA hub. Now I think its Hartford that will be the busiest destination unserved in terms of local traffic.
These last few weeks have been really big for STL. Applause to the route development team at the airport. Interesting to see some reactions from other nearby airports to the strong growth at STL. @JustinMeyerKC, who I assume is employed at KCI, made some inferences that KCI would be better suited for SWA expansion than in STL. He also stated that STL is 'cursed' because of Concourse E being single-side. I tend to disagree. Although the walk from the checkpoint is starting to get longer, I really do not see it posing any different than an airport like BNA, where the SWA gates are quite a haul from Security. Even if this began to pose a major problem ( which it won't), I could easily see STL pulling a LAX style gate shift to accommodate SWA. If any of you peek at KCI threads on airliners.net or KCRag, it's quite interesting to see their perspectives on the growth at Lambert. It is quite obvious that our growth hurts their airport quite severely. I have read numerous comments and posts of KC residents who drive to STL now to fly nonstop or get cheaper WN fares. Many posters continue to claim that SWA will uproot it's STL operation and relocate to KCI once the new terminal opens (doubtful), which is outrageous IMO. They also say KC is a stronger TATL market- but as posted before, WOW in STL does really damage the leisure demand out of KCI, as it's now in STL's market area.
Either way, 2017 is shaping up to be an incredible year of growth out of STL. I'm excited to see where we are next year around this time-hopefully with that elusive British flag carrier. What do you all think the rest of 2017 will bring us?
Nice. Should finish around 14.7/14.8 million passengers for the year. Not quite 15, but definitely on pace for it in the next year or two (provided travel demand doesn't plummet).
These last few weeks have been really big for STL. Applause to the route development team at the airport. Interesting to see some reactions from other nearby airports to the strong growth at STL. @JustinMeyerKC, who I assume is employed at KCI, made some inferences that KCI would be better suited for SWA expansion than in STL. He also stated that STL is 'cursed' because of Concourse E being single-side. I tend to disagree. Although the walk from the checkpoint is starting to get longer, I really do not see it posing any different than an airport like BNA, where the SWA gates are quite a haul from Security. Even if this began to pose a major problem ( which it won't), I could easily see STL pulling a LAX style gate shift to accommodate SWA.
I can't speak to him saying MCI is better for expansion because if he said that it is just dumb. That airport is horrible for expansion. With regard to the cursed line he was just talking about single sided airports in general when someone mentioned the walk. It wasn't really a direct shot at STL. I also don't think it is that big of a deal. Oakland has really long walks also. I think theirs is longer than ours. Vegas is WAYYYYYYYY longer. I felt like I needed to get a cab to walk from one end to the other there.
I can't speak to him saying MCI is better for expansion because if he said that it is just dumb. That airport is horrible for expansion.
I believe he meant more that MCI would be better for SW expansion provided it had a decent terminal layout, because its actual location in the country is pretty good. Man, what an unmitigated disaster that terminal design has been for MCI...
Concourse D at least has the advantage of having a second post-security entrance it could reopen should the need arise.
How many gates does STL use? I've seen proposals for KCI that would have just 25 gates. I think most proposals have 35 gates but 25 gates seems like a really small amount?
How many gates does STL use? I've seen proposals for KCI that would have just 25 gates. I think most proposals have 35 gates but 25 gates seems like a really small amount?
This hasn't updated the newest Southwest gates but it would be at 43 in use. This doesn't count E40 or the per turn gates that get used in C and A.
How many gates does STL use? I've seen proposals for KCI that would have just 25 gates. I think most proposals have 35 gates but 25 gates seems like a really small amount?
This hasn't updated the newest Southwest gates but it would be at 43 in use. This doesn't count E40 or the per turn gates that get used in C and A.
Also, is anyone following the AA rumors? Apparently they will be adding an LHR route soon. A.net people are saying a retrofitted 757/767. Any thoughts?
Also, is anyone following the AA rumors? Apparently they will be adding an LHR route soon. A.net people are saying a retrofitted 757/767. Any thoughts?
STL is not in the range for a 757 flight to LHR.
I'm almost certain that STL is not the city under consideration. As I mentioned earlier, it is likely PIT, CMH or CLE, with IND being an outside possibility.
2:50 @kmox, @MarkReardonKMOX & @flystl director on new Pittsburgh airport change in post 9/11 security. bit.ly/1sLXSfE
Summary of what they said?
Nothing all the exciting.
Just talked about how PIT is going to let non flyers through security from 9 am-5 pm. They aren't really considering it here but will monitor it. Mentioned we have a lot more passengers so that complicates things and doesn't want to bog down security.
She also said that they have 4 teams of bomb sniffing dogs at the airport here that can help treat regular security lines like precheck. If they are there sniffing people don't have to take off shoes, etc. But they are only used at certain times. She did mention the amount of flyers out of STL that have signed up for precheck is growing quickly.
Nothing was discussed about new airline service except a couple comments about Iceland that aren't worth noting.
My wife and I signed up for Global Entry in late June for a September trip. The St. Louis interview schedule had no openings before October. Memphis had interview openings in August. All other nearby cities were even later. But then we noticed that Chicago had interview openings in just a few days -- late June. So we scheduled one and drove up to O'hare and back the same day for the interview. It costs $100 but lasts 5 years. It speeds re-entry into the US from abroad, and you get pre-TSA all the time for domestic flights too. Interview was on or head of scheduled time. They ask a few questions and take finger prints.
gary kreie wrote:My wife and I signed up for Global Entry in late June for a September trip. The St. Louis interview schedule had no openings before October. Memphis had interview openings in August. All other nearby cities were even later. But then we noticed that Chicago had interview openings in just a few days -- late June. So we scheduled one and drove up to O'hare and back the same day for the interview. It costs $100 but lasts 5 years. It speeds re-entry into the US from abroad, and you get pre-TSA all the time for domestic flights too. Interview was on or head of scheduled time. They ask a few questions and take finger prints.
Agree guys, TSA Precheck is certainly worth the $85 for 5 years. I haven't noticed long lines this year but last year was crazy when they had the TSA agent shortage. The regular security lines at Lambert would be 200-300 deep while precheck was nearly empty.
From the time that I enter T2 until I clear security can be as little as 60 seconds.
My current enrollment expires in late 2018 and I will definitely renew.
My wife and I signed up for Global Entry in late June for a September trip. The St. Louis interview schedule had no openings before October. Memphis had interview openings in August. All other nearby cities were even later. But then we noticed that Chicago had interview openings in just a few days -- late June. So we scheduled one and drove up to O'hare and back the same day for the interview. It costs $100 but lasts 5 years. It speeds re-entry into the US from abroad, and you get pre-TSA all the time for domestic flights too. Interview was on or head of scheduled time. They ask a few questions and take finger prints.
Is the global entry interview different from the PreCheck interview? Precheck was very easy to get an appointment and when I missed my original appointment in Brentwood I just walked into the TSA office a few days later before a flight in T1 and was in and out in 10 minutes.
My wife and I signed up for Global Entry in late June for a September trip. The St. Louis interview schedule had no openings before October. Memphis had interview openings in August. All other nearby cities were even later. But then we noticed that Chicago had interview openings in just a few days -- late June. So we scheduled one and drove up to O'hare and back the same day for the interview. It costs $100 but lasts 5 years. It speeds re-entry into the US from abroad, and you get pre-TSA all the time for domestic flights too. Interview was on or head of scheduled time. They ask a few questions and take finger prints.
Is the global entry interview different from the PreCheck interview? Precheck was very easy to get an appointment and when I missed my original appointment in Brentwood I just walked into the TSA office a few days later before a flight in T1 and was in and out in 10 minutes.
I only have precheck and like you said, it was quick. I think Global has more checks because it is customs related. I think it might be in T2 at STL.
That said some ports of entry now have a thing called Mobile Passport where you fill out all your customs questions on your phone. You can do it on the plane then submit it when you land. You get a receipt in a minute and then can bypass the line. I haven't personally used it yet (I haven't had an international trip since I found out about it) but I will be using it in Houston in November. STL doesn't have it yet. It is mostly the airports with a lot of international flights.
My wife and I signed up for Global Entry in late June for a September trip. The St. Louis interview schedule had no openings before October. Memphis had interview openings in August. All other nearby cities were even later. But then we noticed that Chicago had interview openings in just a few days -- late June. So we scheduled one and drove up to O'hare and back the same day for the interview. It costs $100 but lasts 5 years. It speeds re-entry into the US from abroad, and you get pre-TSA all the time for domestic flights too. Interview was on or head of scheduled time. They ask a few questions and take finger prints.
Is the global entry interview different from the PreCheck interview? Precheck was very easy to get an appointment and when I missed my original appointment in Brentwood I just walked into the TSA office a few days later before a flight in T1 and was in and out in 10 minutes.
I guess I don't know if it is different. Did they take finger prints in the PreCheck interview? Sounds similar. I went to the GOES web site to sign up for Global Entry.
My wife and I signed up for Global Entry in late June for a September trip. The St. Louis interview schedule had no openings before October. Memphis had interview openings in August. All other nearby cities were even later. But then we noticed that Chicago had interview openings in just a few days -- late June. So we scheduled one and drove up to O'hare and back the same day for the interview. It costs $100 but lasts 5 years. It speeds re-entry into the US from abroad, and you get pre-TSA all the time for domestic flights too. Interview was on or head of scheduled time. They ask a few questions and take finger prints.
Is the global entry interview different from the PreCheck interview? Precheck was very easy to get an appointment and when I missed my original appointment in Brentwood I just walked into the TSA office a few days later before a flight in T1 and was in and out in 10 minutes.
I guess I don't know if it is different. Did they take finger prints in the PreCheck interview? Sounds similar. I went to the GOES web site to sign up for Global Entry.
Yes you are fingerprinted for Precheck. When I got mine back in 2013 the only place you could get it in STL was in Chesterfield Valley at a company that did employment background checks. It appears they have a bunch of locations now.