We need to put in tolls.leeharveyawesome wrote: ↑May 22, 2017The on and off ramps around the 44/55 exchange provide criminals with quick and easy access in and out of the surrounding neighborhoods. It keeps property crimes a constant.onecity wrote: http://www.kmov.com/story/35484090/3-ki ... uis-sunday
I find this interesting: Two happened on a busy stretch of Gravois, a state highway. The others were within about 1000 ft of a highway interchange, except the STL Co shooting. I've always understood that real estate near highway ramps or near highways is undesireable and tends to act as a poverty concentrator. Does the geographic scope of shootings tend to be concentrated around highway interchanges in general?
If so, does that start to build a case for de-highwayifying Gravois, and also rethinking how highway ramps are incorporated into the city?
I think the damage is done and there is nothing that can fix it. A criminal, even the dumbest, will likely consider a "getaway route". 44 and 55 are perfect for criminals looking for populated areas to commit crimes especially in a city with virtually no proactive policing to speak of.
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I remember listening to the Radio Lab on PSS - super interesting and one of my favorite episodes. I, for one, understand the hesitancy... however I am completely on board for it. The comment he made saying, "If we can stop 1 Amber Alert, it's worth it," really sold me, but I still understand the weirdness feeling. If you need a petition to sign, let me know. 
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Thanks. Will do. I'm going to read through the material on their website, but it seems that they're making a concerted effort--including working with the ACLU--to safeguard people's privacy as much as possible. I just think that the amount of crime in this city at the moment far outweighs people's concerns about having their adulterous movements tracked, or their shopping habits monitored, or whatever. I'm going to talk with a couple of alderman and see if I can come up with a path forward.pattimagee wrote: ↑May 22, 2017I remember listening to the Radio Lab on PSS - super interesting and one of my favorite episodes. I, for one, understand the hesitancy... however I am completely on board for it. The comment he made saying, "If we can stop 1 Amber Alert, it's worth it," really sold me, but I still understand the weirdness feeling. If you need a petition to sign, let me know.
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I'm not sure this is the place for it, but what happened in Manchester last night has really struck me. Is St Louis prepared to respond to a terrorist incident if one happened? I really struggle with these incidents, as they really do inflict mass fear in local populations. We have a large amount of high profile targets, and from my encounters, the only protected one is The Arch. Late night ramblings. I hope and pray everyday for violence to end.
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We got an indication of how the 50+ police depts works in Ferguson.
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For what it's worth, I believe STL is actually better prepared for a mass incident than it is small crime. Incident command structures are in place and agencies train all the time on responding to major catastrophes. Police, fire, EMS, hospitals, etc... all have written plans in place for different types of disasters and understand who will do what when/where/how.
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East West Gateway runs the St. Louis Area Regional Response System, in case of a mass incident/casualty eventchaifetz10 wrote: ↑May 23, 2017For what it's worth, I believe STL is actually better prepared for a mass incident than it is small crime. Incident command structures are in place and agencies train all the time on responding to major catastrophes. Police, fire, EMS, hospitals, etc... all have written plans in place for different types of disasters and understand who will do what when/where/how.
http://www.stl-starrs.org/
one thing that i know we cant handle is storage of bodies in a mass casualty event....during a scenario exercise i went to last year i think someone said we would need to use ice rinks for anything above 100.
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There are mobile morgues owned by every state. Local funeral homes could absorb a few hundred and then yes an ice rink or more realistically semi trailers with AC/freezer capabilities would be used. And these would all be temporary until a large building like a warehouse could he converted as a better temporary morgue.
Long, morbid story short: there are plans A through ZZZ in place for major catastrophes. The region needs to focus on day to day crime instead.
Long, morbid story short: there are plans A through ZZZ in place for major catastrophes. The region needs to focus on day to day crime instead.
St. Louis Does Not Have a 'Dire' Police Shortage. Not Even Close
Maddening when you consider the complete lack of police presence downtown, to the point that the CID has to pay for basic protection.
http://m.riverfronttimes.com/newsblog/2 ... even-closeFBI statistics for the most recent year available, 2015, show that the St. Louis Metropolitan Police Department actually has more employees per capita than its counterparts in all but two other large cities in the entire U.S. Only Washington, D.C., and New York City have a higher ratio of police employees to city residents.
And even if you disregard the civilian personnel who staff the department, looking solely at sworn officers, St. Louis is still among the nation's most heavily policed cities. In 2015, the city had 38.3 officers for every 10,000 residents, FBI statistics show — No. 7 in the entire U.S. when it comes to police officers per capita.
Maddening when you consider the complete lack of police presence downtown, to the point that the CID has to pay for basic protection.
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If cigarettes were $16 in Manhattan these people wouldn't be in jail (thanks Mayor DeBlasio).
Mohammed Almuttan, aka Abu Ali, 35, St. Louis, MO
Rami Almuttan, aka Abu Louay, 33, St. Louis, MO
Hisham Mutan, aka Abu Mohamed, 41, St. Louis, MO
Saddam Mutan, aka Abu Ali, 24, St. Louis, MO
Mazin Abdelsalam, aka Abu Mohammad, 38, St. Louis, MO
Najeh Muhana, aka Abu Yazan, 41, Fairview, NJ
Fares Muhana, aka Abu Yamama, 40, Cliffside Park, NJ
Ayoub Qaiymah, aka Abu Faysal, 23, Richmond, VA
Naser Abid, 23, Chicago, IL
Yadgar Barzanji, aka Abu Siver, 47, St. Louis, MO
Wafaa Alwan, 50, St. Louis, MO
Ahmed Abuali, aka Bazilla, 31, North Bergen, NJ
Mohammed Kayed, aka Mohammed Fayez, 21, Clifton, NJ
Momen Abuali, 20, Little Ferry, NJ
Firat Sevindik, 42, Cliffside Park, NJ
Mohammed Mustafa, 30, North Bergen, NJ
Mohammad Karashqah, Abu Yazid, 47, North Bergen, NJ
Fayez Sheikha, 46, Mishawaka, IN
Jihad Shihadeh, Abu Malik, 58, Chicago Ridge, IL
Ismael Abadi, 57, Carol Stream, IL
Abed Hamed, Abed Fawzan, 39, Greenville, NC
Maher Hamed, Abu Alazara, 33, Swansea, IL
Abdel Adi, 25, Oak Lawn, IL
Muhanad Khatib, Abu Alamin, 36, Chicago, IL
Eyad Awad, 38, Chicago, IL
Dale Garbin, 60, Kankakee, IL
Hayder Al Fatli, 40, St. Louis, MO
Kutlay Guvener, 35, Chicago, IL
Saad Al Mallak, 30, Dittmer, MO
Hassan Abdelatif, 29, Collinsville, IL
Mahajir Naz, 32, St. Louis, MO
Talal Abuajaj, 23, St. Louis, MO
Basem Hamdan, aka Abu Ramiz, 57, St. Louis, MO
Zainal Saleh, 29, St. Louis, MO and
Ibrahim Awad, 39, St. Louis, MO
Mohammed Almuttan, aka Abu Ali, 35, St. Louis, MO
Rami Almuttan, aka Abu Louay, 33, St. Louis, MO
Hisham Mutan, aka Abu Mohamed, 41, St. Louis, MO
Saddam Mutan, aka Abu Ali, 24, St. Louis, MO
Mazin Abdelsalam, aka Abu Mohammad, 38, St. Louis, MO
Najeh Muhana, aka Abu Yazan, 41, Fairview, NJ
Fares Muhana, aka Abu Yamama, 40, Cliffside Park, NJ
Ayoub Qaiymah, aka Abu Faysal, 23, Richmond, VA
Naser Abid, 23, Chicago, IL
Yadgar Barzanji, aka Abu Siver, 47, St. Louis, MO
Wafaa Alwan, 50, St. Louis, MO
Ahmed Abuali, aka Bazilla, 31, North Bergen, NJ
Mohammed Kayed, aka Mohammed Fayez, 21, Clifton, NJ
Momen Abuali, 20, Little Ferry, NJ
Firat Sevindik, 42, Cliffside Park, NJ
Mohammed Mustafa, 30, North Bergen, NJ
Mohammad Karashqah, Abu Yazid, 47, North Bergen, NJ
Fayez Sheikha, 46, Mishawaka, IN
Jihad Shihadeh, Abu Malik, 58, Chicago Ridge, IL
Ismael Abadi, 57, Carol Stream, IL
Abed Hamed, Abed Fawzan, 39, Greenville, NC
Maher Hamed, Abu Alazara, 33, Swansea, IL
Abdel Adi, 25, Oak Lawn, IL
Muhanad Khatib, Abu Alamin, 36, Chicago, IL
Eyad Awad, 38, Chicago, IL
Dale Garbin, 60, Kankakee, IL
Hayder Al Fatli, 40, St. Louis, MO
Kutlay Guvener, 35, Chicago, IL
Saad Al Mallak, 30, Dittmer, MO
Hassan Abdelatif, 29, Collinsville, IL
Mahajir Naz, 32, St. Louis, MO
Talal Abuajaj, 23, St. Louis, MO
Basem Hamdan, aka Abu Ramiz, 57, St. Louis, MO
Zainal Saleh, 29, St. Louis, MO and
Ibrahim Awad, 39, St. Louis, MO
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Or if Missouri cigarettes were more expensive.leeharveyawesome wrote: ↑Jun 01, 2017If cigarettes were $16 in Manhattan these people wouldn't be in jail (thanks Mayor DeBlasio).
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Right. Because if they were more expensive everyone would stop smoking Newports and blunts. Have you ever been out in the world? You ever been in the hood Maplewood baizuo?MarkHaversham wrote:Or if Missouri cigarettes were more expensive.leeharveyawesome wrote: ↑Jun 01, 2017If cigarettes were $16 in Manhattan these people wouldn't be in jail (thanks Mayor DeBlasio).
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^ You know, that baizuo crap's getting real old, real fast.
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Dale Garbin and Kutlay Guvener must play in that Sesame Street game, "Which of these 2, doesn't belong...."leeharveyawesome wrote: ↑Jun 01, 2017If cigarettes were $16 in Manhattan these people wouldn't be in jail (thanks Mayor DeBlasio).
Mohammed Almuttan, aka Abu Ali, 35, St. Louis, MO
Rami Almuttan, aka Abu Louay, 33, St. Louis, MO
Hisham Mutan, aka Abu Mohamed, 41, St. Louis, MO
Saddam Mutan, aka Abu Ali, 24, St. Louis, MO
Mazin Abdelsalam, aka Abu Mohammad, 38, St. Louis, MO
Najeh Muhana, aka Abu Yazan, 41, Fairview, NJ
Fares Muhana, aka Abu Yamama, 40, Cliffside Park, NJ
Ayoub Qaiymah, aka Abu Faysal, 23, Richmond, VA
Naser Abid, 23, Chicago, IL
Yadgar Barzanji, aka Abu Siver, 47, St. Louis, MO
Wafaa Alwan, 50, St. Louis, MO
Ahmed Abuali, aka Bazilla, 31, North Bergen, NJ
Mohammed Kayed, aka Mohammed Fayez, 21, Clifton, NJ
Momen Abuali, 20, Little Ferry, NJ
Firat Sevindik, 42, Cliffside Park, NJ
Mohammed Mustafa, 30, North Bergen, NJ
Mohammad Karashqah, Abu Yazid, 47, North Bergen, NJ
Fayez Sheikha, 46, Mishawaka, IN
Jihad Shihadeh, Abu Malik, 58, Chicago Ridge, IL
Ismael Abadi, 57, Carol Stream, IL
Abed Hamed, Abed Fawzan, 39, Greenville, NC
Maher Hamed, Abu Alazara, 33, Swansea, IL
Abdel Adi, 25, Oak Lawn, IL
Muhanad Khatib, Abu Alamin, 36, Chicago, IL
Eyad Awad, 38, Chicago, IL
Dale Garbin, 60, Kankakee, IL
Hayder Al Fatli, 40, St. Louis, MO
Kutlay Guvener, 35, Chicago, IL
Saad Al Mallak, 30, Dittmer, MO
Hassan Abdelatif, 29, Collinsville, IL
Mahajir Naz, 32, St. Louis, MO
Talal Abuajaj, 23, St. Louis, MO
Basem Hamdan, aka Abu Ramiz, 57, St. Louis, MO
Zainal Saleh, 29, St. Louis, MO and
Ibrahim Awad, 39, St. Louis, MO
These guys also got busted for producing and selling K2. Let's not try to say these people are angels and should be walking free right now because you have a personal agenda against tobacco taxes.
I've been working on getting one of their stores shut down for years now. Nothing but trouble there with robberies, shootings, loitering, harassment and intimidation of neighbors, drug sales on the parking lot and in the store, and more. These are bad people and deserve to be locked up for a long time. This store got raided by SLMPD a year ago because of K2 sales to people that were found overdosed and connections to people dealing that myself and others were able to observe and get useful info on, but the Feds told them to back off because of this ongoing investigation. This is a wide reaching conspiracy, and from connections I have been able to make it goes further than just these 35 that they were able to get enough evidence and build a solid case on. These arrests are welcome news for those of us that have had to deal with the constant problems from these guys.
I've been working on getting one of their stores shut down for years now. Nothing but trouble there with robberies, shootings, loitering, harassment and intimidation of neighbors, drug sales on the parking lot and in the store, and more. These are bad people and deserve to be locked up for a long time. This store got raided by SLMPD a year ago because of K2 sales to people that were found overdosed and connections to people dealing that myself and others were able to observe and get useful info on, but the Feds told them to back off because of this ongoing investigation. This is a wide reaching conspiracy, and from connections I have been able to make it goes further than just these 35 that they were able to get enough evidence and build a solid case on. These arrests are welcome news for those of us that have had to deal with the constant problems from these guys.
Phillips 66 at 2800 N Florissant.
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Yeah I've heard that one is bad. I wonder if it's connected to all the overdoses downtown.
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There are definitely connections. How many is unknown, but even one is too many.downtown2007 wrote: ↑Jun 01, 2017Yeah I've heard that one is bad. I wonder if it's connected to all the overdoses downtown.
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They would stop selling contraband cigarettes from Missouri because they wouldn't be significantly cheaper than in Manhattan, which was the same point you were making.leeharveyawesome wrote: ↑Jun 01, 2017Right. Because if they were more expensive everyone would stop smoking Newports and blunts. Have you ever been out in the world? You ever been in the hood Maplewood baizuo?MarkHaversham wrote:Or if Missouri cigarettes were more expensive.leeharveyawesome wrote: ↑Jun 01, 2017If cigarettes were $16 in Manhattan these people wouldn't be in jail (thanks Mayor DeBlasio).
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Krewson today says she wants better salaries for cops and more cops. How to pay? Increase in property or sales taxes.
You can't make this schitt up. tax tax tax tax tax tax tax tax tax
no cut cut cut cut cut cut
She really is Mayor Slay redux.
Asked about asking Governor for National Guard help and she swooshed it away.
Asked about police chief hiring process, said it would take many months.
No thinking out side the box, no urgency, nothing....while STL burns.
You can't make this schitt up. tax tax tax tax tax tax tax tax tax
no cut cut cut cut cut cut
She really is Mayor Slay redux.
Asked about asking Governor for National Guard help and she swooshed it away.
Asked about police chief hiring process, said it would take many months.
No thinking out side the box, no urgency, nothing....while STL burns.
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Stomach wrenching sickening and embarrassing!
I'm not going to lash out cause its not even worth the wasted space and time however the AA community really needs to figure out what direction they want to go right now nothings not working out and simply adding more cops isn't going to solve anything or reduce the self genocide that continues to plague the AA communicate.
Make it what you want or say it what you want there's no denying whats going on not only in St.Louis but in this country the AA community has deep rooted issues with each other.
Like Lebron says its hard being a AA in America he's absolutely right when your own people continue to annihilate each other at an alarming rate.
Ms Krewson don't be ashamed if you have to call on the national guards i'd rather start now than wait till it gets way out of control which i think its getting to that point and whatever you decide don't raise property taxes on people who choose to live honestly thats completely punishing the good while rewarding the bad theres other solutions like cig tax soda tax etc.
Don't violate a community that continues to see a mild exodus and dwindling tax base the city's tax base is already high enough..
I'm not sure which is worse caucasians and there serious love for all sorts of narcotics or AA needing guns to obliterate each other.
I do apologize if i offended or gone too far!
I'm not going to lash out cause its not even worth the wasted space and time however the AA community really needs to figure out what direction they want to go right now nothings not working out and simply adding more cops isn't going to solve anything or reduce the self genocide that continues to plague the AA communicate.
Make it what you want or say it what you want there's no denying whats going on not only in St.Louis but in this country the AA community has deep rooted issues with each other.
Like Lebron says its hard being a AA in America he's absolutely right when your own people continue to annihilate each other at an alarming rate.
Ms Krewson don't be ashamed if you have to call on the national guards i'd rather start now than wait till it gets way out of control which i think its getting to that point and whatever you decide don't raise property taxes on people who choose to live honestly thats completely punishing the good while rewarding the bad theres other solutions like cig tax soda tax etc.
Don't violate a community that continues to see a mild exodus and dwindling tax base the city's tax base is already high enough..
I'm not sure which is worse caucasians and there serious love for all sorts of narcotics or AA needing guns to obliterate each other.
I do apologize if i offended or gone too far!
^^They absolutely SHOULD get the National Guard, if only for a few locales across the metro area. Then use the extra police to secure downtown.
But everyone knows they won't. The police would see it as an insult, and Krewson fears being seen as capitulating or weak. City politicians DO NOT want Missouri state help. They won't even touch the idea.
So instead we get this half-assed, same as always bullsh*t from Krewson, who wants to raise taxes on law-abiding homeowners and businesses (who are already keeping this city afloat), so throw more good money at bad (the police), who aren't getting sh*t done any way you cut it.
Typical. Solutions will not come from city government for this issue. And it is by far the biggest issue we have. It permeates our society.
But everyone knows they won't. The police would see it as an insult, and Krewson fears being seen as capitulating or weak. City politicians DO NOT want Missouri state help. They won't even touch the idea.
So instead we get this half-assed, same as always bullsh*t from Krewson, who wants to raise taxes on law-abiding homeowners and businesses (who are already keeping this city afloat), so throw more good money at bad (the police), who aren't getting sh*t done any way you cut it.
Typical. Solutions will not come from city government for this issue. And it is by far the biggest issue we have. It permeates our society.