Humphrey's to be demolished; reincarnated

Dogtown Dog · PostSep 08, 2016#12016-09-08T22:51+00:00

Humphrey's bar near SLU to be demolished

http://www.stltoday.com/business/local/ ... user-share

Perhaps of interest to this website specifically:

Squitieri also wants the city to give him a break on the amount of parking required at the bar site, which has room for only a few cars. He said in a letter Thursday to Alderman Joe Roddy, whose 17th Ward includes the bar, that a study shows 91 percent of Humphrey's customers are students who walk from SLU and nearby areas.

The city requiring parking that a developer doesn't even want is an amusing twist on a recurring theme in St. Louis development stories.

Mark Groth · PostSep 08, 2016#22016-09-08T23:41+00:00

I'm sure that people who have fond memories of the old Humphrey's will not be happy, but I like the new look and investment. And the owner seems to have his head screwed on right with regards to parking. Now, will this help keep Laclede a through street between Grand and Vandeventer? My fear is that SLU will lobby to close this street with the new dorms.

wabash · PostSep 08, 2016#32016-09-08T23:55+00:00

This would be a great update for the corner, especially considering the added foot/bike traffic to and from The Foundry and its associated GRG infrastructure additions/upgrades. Hopefully Smoothie King & Dunkin are real options for the retail.

PostSep 09, 2016#42016-09-09T00:42+00:00

mjbais1489 · PostSep 09, 2016#52016-09-09T01:50+00:00

wabash wrote:This would be a great update for the corner, especially considering the added foot/bike traffic to and from The Foundry and its associated GRG infrastructure additions/upgrades. Hopefully Smoothie King & Dunkin are real options for the retail.

I would hate smoothie king and dunkin donuts there. The college kids need a pizza by the slice place and a greasy late night spot.

framer · PostSep 09, 2016#62016-09-09T02:17+00:00

I wish they'd flip it around so the two-story section faces the corner and the patio faces the rear. Great project otherwise.

dbInSouthCity · PostSep 09, 2016#72016-09-09T03:07+00:00

framer wrote:I wish they'd flip it around so the two-story section faces the corner and the patio faces the rear. Great project otherwise.

dont you kinda want that type of patio to face the street, as opposed to looking at a warehouse wall.

wabash · PostSep 09, 2016#82016-09-09T03:14+00:00

^Agreed. Seems a bit more festive and attractive having it facing the way they've positioned it.

framer · PostSep 09, 2016#92016-09-09T05:06+00:00

I'd rather have street corners anchored by architectural mass. But that's just me.

symphonicpoet · PostSep 09, 2016#102016-09-09T08:36+00:00

I can't think of a college bar where the deck (if there is one) faces anywhere but towards the busiest street. It's advertising.

debaliviere · PostSep 09, 2016#112016-09-09T13:20+00:00

I do not like this.

whitherSTL · PostSep 09, 2016#122016-09-09T13:25+00:00

My money is developer turns around and sells land to SLU....Watch. It. Happen.

chaifetz10 · PostSep 09, 2016#132016-09-09T15:22+00:00

I doubt that. The original owner (Janis Mangelsdorf) is still involved here to an extent and has always been hands on. Now could SLU try to pull some low blows here by challenging demolition based upon preservation review or something similar? It would be the most hysterically ironic move ever, but I wouldn't put it past them to try to gain some form of control over the situation.

Dogtown Dog · PostSep 09, 2016#142016-09-09T16:27+00:00

whitherSTL wrote:My money is developer turns around and sells land to SLU....Watch. It. Happen.

My sources tell me Jan actually has a first right of refusal if the majority owner tries to sell it to SLU or anyone else.

whitherSTL · PostSep 09, 2016#152016-09-09T16:31+00:00

wabash · PostSep 09, 2016#162016-09-09T16:33+00:00

Also, I don't think SLU's I the market for land under Postello. They're building the new dorms to generate increased income with the property they already have. I think the voracious land-banking days may be over.

symphonicpoet · PostSep 10, 2016#172016-09-10T07:33+00:00

^Wabash

Good. I surely hope you're right. Best thing to happen there in decades.

quincunx · PostJan 24, 2017#182017-01-24T16:38+00:00

STLrainbow wrote:the plan for the Humphrey's site by SLU is under re-evaluation.

user28 · PostJan 25, 2017#192017-01-25T00:35+00:00

the stltoday article mentions the delay is due to competition in the area, I wonder if he is referring to Foundry or another new construction bar near slu. Either way, there is no reason to change plans now unless they are going to add more to the building. I doubt that humphreys is in serious danger of losing its business to others in the area. perhaps there is too much competition to fill the retail components in the new development. anyone heard anything?

addxb2 · PostFeb 14, 2017#202017-02-14T21:33+00:00

I heard today that they received an offer on the site. Potential mid-rise hotel. That's all that was said.

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mjbais1489 · PostMay 12, 2017#212017-05-12T18:45+00:00

Anyone heard anything about Humps?

beer city · PostMay 13, 2017#222017-05-13T02:56+00:00

I am surprised no one has moved in to the old Calico's / Shack space - Considering that they lost Pappo's and Diablo's seems like an under served slosh joint market

dweebe · PostMay 15, 2017#232017-05-15T21:32+00:00

mjbais1489 wrote: ↑
May 12, 2017
Anyone heard anything about Humps?

I notice there's now a sign saying For Lease on the door.

beer city wrote: I am surprised no one has moved in to the old Calico's / Shack space - Considering that they lost Pappo's and Diablo's seems like an under served slosh joint market

Diablos closed because SLU is building a dorm on that sport.

Pappos closed because the manager was lazy. I know someone that worked there and they could have succeeded if the family member running the joint was actually wanted to be in St. Louis and/or at the restaurant.

pattimagee · PostNov 17, 2021#242021-11-17T14:32+00:00

Not sure if this means anything but...

dweebe · PostNov 17, 2021#252021-11-17T15:16+00:00

A reopening would be nice.

They also blocked off the lot between Humps and the lofts next door with portable 6 foot chain link fence. I want to say that happened last week.

Though given SLU's hatred of bars I wouldn't be shocked to see a couple of Jesuits driving bulldozers towards the building to ensure no students drink/have fun.