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6651 Chippewa, Demolition for Car Wash?

6651 Chippewa, Demolition for Car Wash?

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PostSep 15, 2022#1

There is a sign on the Lansdowne Medical Center Building that says "Car Wash, Coming Soon!".  Does anyone know any details?
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PostSep 16, 2022#2

^There's been some discussion on Facebook. This is an absolute horror show. Not sure how to stop it, though. :(

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PostSep 16, 2022#3

I'm going to reach out to Oldenburg.  At least it's not in 'Car Wash Daddy's' ward.  Though, I guess technically just off the border.

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PostSep 16, 2022#4

Wow, that would be absurdly awful.  Can anything be done at this point?

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PostSep 16, 2022#5

Yes, let Ald Oldenburg know your thoughts.
Let the Lindenwood Park NA know your thoughts. Better if you live in the neighborhood get involved with it. Go to meetings, get on committees and or the board.
https://lindenwoodpark.org/
It's in a Preservation Review District. Let CRO and the Preservation Board know your thoughts.
A demo permit has not been applied for yet.

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PostSep 16, 2022#6

Maybe point out the car wash across the street and suggest a second one next door is unnecessary.

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PostSep 16, 2022#7

^ That is some good news.  The listed current owner on the City's website has been in place since 2002 with a mailing address at the building, so it doesn't look like the building has changed hands (yet).  It is currently listed for sale by L3 and brochure says all tenants are on short term leases.  SInce they put the sign up and the potential hurdles mentioned above, I'd assume it is under contract, but not yet sold.
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PostSep 16, 2022#8

Ridiculous.  I'll voice my concerns to Tom.

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PostSep 16, 2022#9

It would be a Take5 car wash by the way. It’s one of several planned across south city and south county. I know if a few others…
- Former Steak and Shake at Gravois and Hampton: Tidal Wave Express
- Former Steak and Shake on Lindbergh at South County Mall: Waterway Express
- Southeast corner of Lindbergh and Union: Take5 Car Wash
- Southeast corner of Lemay Ferry and Mehl: Tidal Wave Express

Why so many car washes? All I can think is money laundering, but that’s probably not always the case. Is there really a market for this many new car washes that we’re going to destroy one of the few buildings built up to the street in southwest city?

Auto Related: QT is to go at the northeast corner of Lindbergh and Lemay Ferry.

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PostSep 16, 2022#10

The SE corner of Lemay and Mehl? Are they demolishing the Old Navy? Or do you mean the SW, which is where the old Jack n the Box is?

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PostSep 16, 2022#11

Car washes, gas stations, and storage places taking all prominent spots.

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PostSep 16, 2022#12

Miss Shell wrote:
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The SE corner of Lemay and Mehl? Are they demolishing the Old Navy? Or do you mean the SW, which is where the old Jack n the Box is?

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Southwest. My directions got messed up.

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PostSep 16, 2022#13

I've heard that carwashes - these automated ones - are being pushed as franchise opportunities.  

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PostSep 16, 2022#14

This seems like an easy conversion to residential? Where's the creativity? It's even got it's own parking garage already.

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PostSep 17, 2022#15

^And it's a neighborhood with a lot of demand.

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PostSep 17, 2022#16

I was thinking the same thing re: residential.

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PostSep 17, 2022#17

chriss752 wrote:
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- Former Steak and Shake on Lindbergh at South County Mall: Waterway Express
Interesting since that's about the only former SnS where they've actually maintained a lot of the SnS old branding and styling. Was wondering if that one might open back up as a SnS or what the deal was. Seems odd to have not stripped everything off years ago like the others if they're just gonna tear it down.

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PostSep 18, 2022#18

I cross Chippewa there almost every day. I can't even imagine how much worse it will make the whole area having an even more autocentric development. I just don't even get how it economically makes sense to tear down such a large building to build a car wash.

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PostSep 19, 2022#19

bwcrow1s wrote:
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This seems like an easy conversion to residential? Where's the creativity? It's even got it's own parking garage already.
I don't know that it's an easy conversion to residential, but it sure seems like an option diving into.  I reached out to the alderman and let him know the same.  I also reached out to the owners of Garcia Properties as they've rehabbed other structures near here into residential.  They weren't aware of this development and are going to look into it.

PostSep 23, 2022#20

Some potential good news here:
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PostSep 23, 2022#21

Yes, good to hear.

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PostSep 26, 2022#22

Glad he could take the time to respond to at least one resident.

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PostSep 26, 2022#23

bwcrow1s wrote:
Sep 26, 2022
Glad he could take the time to respond to at least one resident.
He responded to me as well.  Essentially said the same thing.  Very glad to hear that the car wash is not very likely at this point.  

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PostSep 26, 2022#24

I wish he would say it on Twitter or some such so that the info could get to more people.

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PostDec 28, 2022#25

Has there been any news on this situation? Every time I drive by this building and see that car wash sign I get angry. Hopefully it never happens! As mentioned in previous posts, this building seems like a great residential conversion opportunity.

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