Hilton St. Louis at the Ballpark (aka Pavilion Hotel)

brickandmortar · PostAug 09, 2005#12005-08-09T03:21+00:00

I didn't realize the walls covered up so much of the old Spanish Pavillion.

-from the article

Robert O'Loughlin, President of Lodging Hospitality Management (LHM), says there are big plans in store for the property. "We're going to change it to a Hilton, spend about $15-million on a completely new lobby, completely new motor entrance, re-do all of the guest rooms, and I think it'll be someplace St. Louisans will be very proud of.

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xing · PostAug 09, 2005#22005-08-09T03:55+00:00

Wow, I hope they expose the mural. It looks beautiful!

matt · PostAug 09, 2005#32005-08-09T13:05+00:00

Incredible! Since I moved to St. Louis in 1989 I've never understood what was the Spanish Pavilion about the hotel? Don't know how they could have covered up something like this. Crazy. The new hotel will be akin to an art gallery. Very classy and offers lots of opportunities to leverage for a downtown hotel at that location.

Expat · PostAug 09, 2005#42005-08-09T15:39+00:00

Sounds great! Glad that the new building owners are going to invest lots of money. Since they have selected Hilton to run the new & improved hotel, I see an opportunity for DT St. Louis. If Marriott wants to keep a flag downtown, they will need to build a new hotel. Maybe they could put one above the Keiner garages. Better yet, they could build it in conjunction with some Class A office space. The Keiner garages could become the Keiner Towers.

brickandmortar · PostAug 09, 2005#52005-08-09T16:10+00:00

^The Renaissance Grand at the Convention Center is a Marriott hotel.

Expat · PostAug 09, 2005#62005-08-09T16:25+00:00

^True.

But, Ren and Marriott are two different products. In many downtowns they have Ren & Marriott. They see them as different products. Like Ford Motor Company selling Fords & Mercurys.

I know that they are not likely to build a new Marriott right away. It was just a daydream since I would like see something exciting happen to the Keiner garages.

debaliviere · PostAug 09, 2005#72005-08-09T16:29+00:00

This could be good for the convention hotel since anyone booking rooms through Marriott's system will only be able to make reservations at the Renaissance.

urbanstlouis · PostAug 09, 2005#82005-08-09T16:39+00:00

DeBaliviere wrote:This could be good for the convention hotel since anyone booking rooms through Marriott's system will only be able to make reservations at the Renaissance.

You are right. I think this was one of the issues cited when they announced plans to sell the hotel.

brickandmortar · PostAug 09, 2005#92005-08-09T16:47+00:00

It'd be cool if some of the upper floors of the Marriott Towers be converted to condos, imagine the views of the ballpark.

I agree something should be built on top of the Kiener garages: a condo tower, offices, anything. Besides it might help to fill up the garage.

tb1000 · PostAug 09, 2005#102005-08-09T16:53+00:00

Does anybody have any pictures of this Spanish Pavilion?

Expat · PostAug 09, 2005#112005-08-09T17:20+00:00

Marriott is headquartered in Bethesda, MD and I have friends with the company and we have talked about this. It is important to note that Marriott did not sell the Pavilion because it was doing poorly. Marriott did not own the building, which is common. The people that owned the building sold it for their own reasons. They happened to sell it to a company that wanted Hilton or has connections with Hilton. The Pavilion and the Grand have been recovering recently from the post 911 slump - recent reports confirm this. This change did not happen because Marriott wanted to dump a DTSTL property. In the meantime, they will probably welcome the chance to focus on the Grand, but as things pick up - and they have been - there is no reason to think they couldn't return some day. They have a big presence in the St. Louis area and like the market.

jmedwick · PostAug 09, 2005#122005-08-09T17:44+00:00

Expat, they clearly like the St. Louis market, otherwise why else would they be involved in the new Residence Inn off Jefferson near 40. Residence Inn is a Marriott property. However, for the time being, I think it is good that the company focus on getting the Renisance healthy.

2taall · PostAug 12, 2005#132005-08-12T01:46+00:00

I want to know what this Pavillon is. I read about it, but I have no idea what part of the hotel is the Pavillon.

matt · PostAug 12, 2005#142005-08-12T12:31+00:00

I don't think anyone does because they covered it all up. The plan is probably to restore much of what the Pavilion was.

debaliviere · PostAug 12, 2005#152005-08-12T12:39+00:00

Isn't the pavilion the part that fronts Broadway, near Pitchers bar?

bikinʹ_man · PostAug 12, 2005#162005-08-12T14:24+00:00

i beleive so, it's pretty much the lobby part, it's a little one story thing.

matguy70 · PostNov 08, 2005#172005-11-08T23:02+00:00

The Marriott Pavilion Hotel will change to the new Hilton Pavilion Hotel Downtown St. Louis. the hotel will change flagships this winter.

So this will give Downtown St. Louis 2 Hilton Hotels - 3 Hilton Towers - soon. The new Hilton on 4th Street and now the Pavilion. Interesting!

debaliviere · PostMar 03, 2006#182006-03-03T16:52+00:00

What's going on at this hotel? It looks like they've been doing some major construction work there lately - the wall that fronts Broadway has been removed and is currently boarded up. Does anyone know what the plans are?

southslider · PostMar 03, 2006#192006-03-03T18:01+00:00

Pictures of the exterior renovation plans can be found on-line here.

matt · PostMar 03, 2006#202006-03-03T21:37+00:00

Very useful info here as usual. I'm meeting with sales next week to look at this hotel for a conference in 2007.

tb1000 · PostMar 23, 2006#212006-03-23T18:46+00:00

Sorry if this is posted somewhere in the many threads of the many forums.

The Hilton in downtown St. Louis is so excited about its new neighbor it?s changing its name to the Ballpark Hotel and undertaking a $16 million face-lift.

I know. My family had to navigate through the interior construction to reach our room during a recent stay over spring break.

http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascit ... 146365.htm

matt · PostMar 23, 2006#222006-03-23T19:21+00:00

It's somewhere else too but it's worth repeating. The new Hilton is going to be incredible. I toured it last week (looking for conference space). They promise that it will be open by April 10. The Hilton has plans to build a bridge across to second story meeting space above the new Mike Shannon's.

matguy70 · PostMar 24, 2006#232006-03-24T03:57+00:00

It will be the second HILTON downtown. The new <A HREF="http://www.urbanstl.com/viewtopic.php?t=610">Hilton Downtown St. Louis</A> - just down the street on 4th - was opened last year.

xing · PostMar 24, 2006#242006-03-24T07:09+00:00

I arrived in St Louis, about 2 hours ago, and own my drive through downtown, I noticed this hotel, for the moment, is called the "St Louis Hilton at the Ballpark."

(on a side note) I also noticed new sidewalks and lights in the gateway mall. I have to say, it looks much better.

urbanstlouis · PostMar 24, 2006#252006-03-24T09:10+00:00