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OK, I'll start.
I shop at the Lindell Schnucks at least once a month, and I've never had any problems. The place seems clean to me, and I've never been threatened, assaulted, propositioned, or even bothered by anyone. The shelves are fully stocked, and service is prompt.
So what's the big deal?
I shop at the Lindell Schnucks at least once a month, and I've never had any problems. The place seems clean to me, and I've never been threatened, assaulted, propositioned, or even bothered by anyone. The shelves are fully stocked, and service is prompt.
So what's the big deal?
The parking lot is rather dark at night, but I've never had any problems either. One time a homeless guy approached me while loading groceries and tried to sell me a broken humidifier that was clearly taken from the dumpster. Ahh... only in the city.
That said, I hope the sh*t is torn down and replaced with good urban development.
That said, I hope the sh*t is torn down and replaced with good urban development.
^ The bar for improvement is set pretty low. Even tearing it down and replacing it with better suburban style development would be an improvement.
There was this one time at band camp when I shopped at the Lindell Schnucks. A fellow shopper didn't bathe and smelled bad and stuff. Oh, and there were people of all colors and socioeconomic status there. It made me feel really uncomfortable and I wished that band camp was over so that I could be back in the suburbs where everyone was as perfect as me.
Fine, I'll be the first to say that I really dislike this store. Let's see, where to start (in no particular order):
-Produce section was frequently understocked and missing ethnic items that are common at other grocery stores
-Meat section was sometimes ok, sometimes gross. Any time it is gross that kind of scares me
-Dirty/dim
-Alcohol behind counter
-Frequently out of shopping carts (they did not bother to bring them in from the parking lot)
-LONG checkout lines, due to not having dedicated baggers and, to some degree, confusion with the payment system
-Rude staff (no "hello, how are you doing?" here)
I lived in the CWE for a year and this was pretty much the only place I shopped. When I moved downtown, I figured that if I was going to have to drive 10 minutes I might as well drive 20 and be able to go to Target, too, so I went to Hampton Square (MUCH nicer). Of course, now I shop at Culinaria (to describe Culinaria take my list above and make it opposite).
I don't know what I would suggest that Schnuck's do with this place... I guess maybe tear it down and start over from scratch or pretty much gut it. It really does not matter to me anymore, I suppose.
-Produce section was frequently understocked and missing ethnic items that are common at other grocery stores
-Meat section was sometimes ok, sometimes gross. Any time it is gross that kind of scares me
-Dirty/dim
-Alcohol behind counter
-Frequently out of shopping carts (they did not bother to bring them in from the parking lot)
-LONG checkout lines, due to not having dedicated baggers and, to some degree, confusion with the payment system
-Rude staff (no "hello, how are you doing?" here)
I lived in the CWE for a year and this was pretty much the only place I shopped. When I moved downtown, I figured that if I was going to have to drive 10 minutes I might as well drive 20 and be able to go to Target, too, so I went to Hampton Square (MUCH nicer). Of course, now I shop at Culinaria (to describe Culinaria take my list above and make it opposite).
I don't know what I would suggest that Schnuck's do with this place... I guess maybe tear it down and start over from scratch or pretty much gut it. It really does not matter to me anymore, I suppose.
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I'd just like to apologize for referring to it as the "Ghetto Schnucks."
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Framer wrote:OK, I'll start.
I shop at the Lindell Schnucks at least once a month, and I've never had any problems. The place seems clean to me, and I've never been threatened, assaulted, propositioned, or even bothered by anyone. The shelves are fully stocked, and service is prompt.
So what's the big deal?
I've been asked for money a few times in the parking lot (never threatened, just fake sob stories) and at least twice I've seen clearly inebriated people staggering through the parking lot. The store is dim and dingy compared to the stores on Arsenal, Loughborough and even S. Grand. Lines are long (if you do not know how to use the self scan, do not get in that line) and the product selection is mediocre. The store seems understaffed compared to the number of customers.
For everyone in the CWE that keeps driving out to Richmond Heights, just go down Kingshighway to Arsenal and there's one of the best Schnucks stores in the chain.
DeBaliviere wrote:^Converted National.
That explains it. Those old Nationals are always the red-headed stepchildren of the chain.
Debaliviere wrote: I'd just like to apologize for referring to it as the "Ghetto Schnucks."
You stated exactly how you feel. No need for political correctness. The reality for many, not necessarily Debaliviere, is the idea of seeing poor people is unsettling. The Schnucks on Lindell is clearly not comparable to the Schnucks on Clayton Rd or many other locations. The Schnucks on Lindell clearly has some issues and could benefit from a total overhaul. However, there are many that dislike the site of poor people and often are uncomfortable being amongst the poor. For those to which this applies there is always STRAUBS.
Approximately a year or more ago there was a special sales tax that was proposed just for Lindell Marketplace. The revenue acquired from the proposed sales tax would allow the Lindell Marketplace property owner to renovate their property. Such a sales tax would have taxed primarily the poor that for the most part lives north of Delmar or in other affordable housing in the area. However, such exterior property improvements would not have benefited anyone other than those that live in the CWE and the Lindell Marketplace owner. Luckily the Alderman's support for this regressive tax proposition was withdrawn.
South Compton wrote:Framer wrote:OK, I'll start.
I shop at the Lindell Schnucks at least once a month, and I've never had any problems. The place seems clean to me, and I've never been threatened, assaulted, propositioned, or even bothered by anyone. The shelves are fully stocked, and service is prompt.
So what's the big deal?
I've been asked for money a few times in the parking lot (never threatened, just fake sob stories) and at least twice I've seen clearly inebriated people staggering through the parking lot. The store is dim and dingy compared to the stores on Arsenal, Loughborough and even S. Grand. Lines are long (if you do not know how to use the self scan, do not get in that line) and the product selection is mediocre. The store seems understaffed compared to the number of customers.
For everyone in the CWE that keeps driving out to Richmond Heights, just go down Kingshighway to Arsenal and there's one of the best Schnucks stores in the chain.
I've also been panhandled a couple times in the parking lot. Two days in a row the same woman with two kids asked me for gas money. People have also tried to sell me everything from candy to a case of motor oil.
My wife also got freaked out when a dude followed he through the parking lot while messing with himself under a trenchcoat. I don't think she's been back.
When compared to other Schnucks this store is pretty poor on the inside. Tear it down and build a new store up against Lindell with underground parking.
Would remodeling the CWE Schnucks eliminate the poor people that shop there? I wouldn't think so. Furthermore, as already stated, the people that are uncomfortable with shopping amongst the commoners, serfs, and plebs of the city should probably a) get a clue and b) hang more at the Straubs.
This area seems to suffer from the same problem as the Northside - no viable shopping alternatives. A google search of "groceries" yielded this. Apparently, people that like food can choose either between the "ghetto Schnucks", Dr. J's Market (whatever that is), or a Quicktrip.
Business Minded Observation of the Day: why would Schnucks dump money into the rehab of this store when a) its currently busy and profitable, b) there is no other (viable) competition, c) Straubs is around the corner but poses no real threat?[/url]
This area seems to suffer from the same problem as the Northside - no viable shopping alternatives. A google search of "groceries" yielded this. Apparently, people that like food can choose either between the "ghetto Schnucks", Dr. J's Market (whatever that is), or a Quicktrip.
Business Minded Observation of the Day: why would Schnucks dump money into the rehab of this store when a) its currently busy and profitable, b) there is no other (viable) competition, c) Straubs is around the corner but poses no real threat?[/url]
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I've lived in and spent enough time in various parts of the city that being hit up for money by panhandlers and shopping with poor people doesn't faze me.
It's all the other crazy stuff I've seen there over the years (a lot of it along the lines of dweebe's "trenchcoat guy" story) that keep me from going back. Glad to hear other people have had good experiences there.
It's all the other crazy stuff I've seen there over the years (a lot of it along the lines of dweebe's "trenchcoat guy" story) that keep me from going back. Glad to hear other people have had good experiences there.
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ttricamo wrote:Would remodeling the CWE Schnucks eliminate the poor people that shop there? I wouldn't think so. Furthermore, as already stated, the people that are uncomfortable with shopping amongst the commoners, serfs, and plebs of the city should probably a) get a clue and b) hang more at the Straubs.
This area seems to suffer from the same problem as the Northside - no viable shopping alternatives. A google search of "groceries" yielded this. Apparently, people that like food can choose either between the "ghetto Schnucks", Dr. J's Market (whatever that is), or a Quicktrip.
Business Minded Observation of the Day: why would Schnucks dump money into the rehab of this store when a) its currently busy and profitable, b) there is no other (viable) competition, c) Straubs is around the corner but poses no real threat?[/url]
You're absolutely right. Schnucks knows its market. The store is busy from people with no other shopping options. The locals who don't like the store and have other options are simply spending their money at other Schnucks. Not a lot of motivation for improvement.
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Yeah, DeB, I don't see the need to apologize.
I am just reticent to use the term "ghetto" at all, for its possible racial undertones. But many do use it to legitimately refer to a place that is quite simply rundown and draws some characters.
I am just upset that the people I am prejudiced against (white SLU girls with blond hair and NorthFace gear) are prejudiced against people not like them.
I am just reticent to use the term "ghetto" at all, for its possible racial undertones. But many do use it to legitimately refer to a place that is quite simply rundown and draws some characters.
I am just upset that the people I am prejudiced against (white SLU girls with blond hair and NorthFace gear) are prejudiced against people not like them.
From my experience at the CWE Straub's, it's not exactly a yacht club experience. Fewer untouchables than the Lindell Schucks to be sure, but it's not exactly the exclusive domain of brahmins, either.
But I was always highly, highly annoyed as a SLU student when I heard others say "ghetto Schucks." And yes, while it was/is an inferior store, SLU students called it that because of the people who shopped there. Or because many thought that SLU was in the ghetto. Either way, it's irritating.
But I was always highly, highly annoyed as a SLU student when I heard others say "ghetto Schucks." And yes, while it was/is an inferior store, SLU students called it that because of the people who shopped there. Or because many thought that SLU was in the ghetto. Either way, it's irritating.
It's funny that people keep suggesting that it is the poor people/serfs/commoners who are keeping those of us who do not care for this store away... how about considering the actual reasons we have put forth?
I do agree that there is little incentive for Schnuck's to invest much in this property as it is always busy as it is. If anything, though, it does reflect poorly on the chain as a whole. I think that the only thing that would cause a shift in policy would be if Dierberg's decided to place a store nearby (not likely).
I do agree that there is little incentive for Schnuck's to invest much in this property as it is always busy as it is. If anything, though, it does reflect poorly on the chain as a whole. I think that the only thing that would cause a shift in policy would be if Dierberg's decided to place a store nearby (not likely).
ttricamo wrote:Would remodeling the CWE Schnucks eliminate the poor people that shop there? I wouldn't think so. Furthermore, as already stated, the people that are uncomfortable with shopping amongst the commoners, serfs, and plebs of the city should probably a) get a clue and b) hang more at the Straubs.
When did we ever say that?
All that I'm reasonably asking from Schnucks about their Lindell store is:
-a decent remodel. It doesn't need to be a palace like Des Peres but at least get the place into the 2000's look-wise.
-the produce, meat and seafood departments are poor. Clean those up.
-get security to walk the parking lot
-more/better help. The cashiers are surly at best and as a former cart wrangler way back in highschool their lack of cart control drives me nuts.
And sometimes wiping the slate clean helps. My brother-in-law lives right by the Loughborough Schnucks and he is still amazed by the change. Even though in the same lot the new store is much more enjoyable to shop.
A fair number of my Wash U classmates 10 years ago referred to the Clayton/Hanley Schnucks as "ghetto Schnucks." This label clearly was not based on the clientele there so much as it was that Schnucks had pretty much let that location fall apart after they opened the one in Richmond Heights.
I've never had any issues with the clientele at the Lindell Schnucks. When shopping there I've been able to find what I needed easily and quickly, with the exception of when I'm buying hard liquor and have to wait in a long line at the service counter.
Honestly the Straubs seems just as dingy as the Lindell Schnucks to me. And if liquor behind a counter is the barometer of ghettoness, Straubs moved their liquor to their service desk a couple years ago, too.
There would be a lot less people calling it "ghetto Schnucks" if Schnucks had made any investment in this property since they acquired it from National.
I've never had any issues with the clientele at the Lindell Schnucks. When shopping there I've been able to find what I needed easily and quickly, with the exception of when I'm buying hard liquor and have to wait in a long line at the service counter.
Honestly the Straubs seems just as dingy as the Lindell Schnucks to me. And if liquor behind a counter is the barometer of ghettoness, Straubs moved their liquor to their service desk a couple years ago, too.
There would be a lot less people calling it "ghetto Schnucks" if Schnucks had made any investment in this property since they acquired it from National.
Didn't the Lindell Schnucks undergo some sort of remodel fairly recently?
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I was in the U City Schnucks yesterday. There is liquor both in the main part of the store and behind the service counter. I'm going to need a ruling on whether this location is "ghetto" or not. TIA.
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Meteo wrote:Didn't the Lindell Schnucks undergo some sort of remodel fairly recently?
yes.