We recently purchased a house in Pasadena Hills, at Natural Bridge Road and Lucas & Hunt. The architecture in this neighborhood is spectacular. It essentially looks like a cross between Clayton and University City. The entire neighborhood/ city is on the National Historic Register. It even used to have a streetcar that went past it along Pasadena Boulevard. Houses in this neighborhood would be hundreds of thousands if not more if they were in the central corridor. You can get to downtown via I-70 in 12 minutes and to Clayton in roughly the same time. The only negative is Normandy School District, so many people send their kids to private schools.
If a beautiful house in a historic, and safe neighborhood are important to you, as I'd assume most on this forum care about, then take a look at the link of photos below. Natural Bridge is being "re-steetscaped" as well. I swear I think this is St. Louis City/ County's best kept secret. There's even a neighborhood pond in one of the many parks/ medians and beautiful spanish fountain in the roundabout. UMSL and nearby Emerson and Express Scripts will keep the momentum going.


city website and photos of houses:
http://www.pasadenahills.com/pages/aboutus.aspx

cool house for sale, only $269,000!
http://www.realtor.com/realestateandhom ... 9486?row=2

haha. how is this spam? too much of an advertisement? It's a cool urban neighborhood that i thought people should be aware of. Most in St. Louis are not... and I have no involvement with the sale of that house...

Not sure whether this is spam or not, but I do agree: Pasadena Hills is an awesome neighborhood.

^ totally agree, love Pasenda Hills, Bel Nor, etc., beautiful houses in that area!

Definitely reads like an ad... especially being a first post... but I'll bite

1--Why isn't it on Streetview? Some gated community type thing? // and 2--Describing it as an 'urban' neighborhood seems like a stretch, no?

Are clayton and Places like Parkview "urban"? This neighborhood is no different and as it was mentioned was on a streetcar line historically, but it was obviously designed after cars became popular. This is a very cool neighborhood and in terms of urban planning, one of the better laid out communities.
And yes, I think there are gates on Lucas and Hunt but the main entrance is open.

Let me guess. The OP "knows a good agent if you're interested."

Haha. Not me!

jcity wrote:Are clayton and Places like Parkview "urban"? This neighborhood is no different and as it was mentioned was on a streetcar line historically, but it was obviously designed after cars became popular. This is a very cool neighborhood and in terms of urban planning, one of the better laid out communities.

I would say no to Clayton and though I could see arguments either way probably no to Parkview too... seems to me like it was designed not to feel urban, more like a suburban enclave in the middle of a city. Not that they're not nice places, they definitely are, just don't read as 'city' to me.

Here's a photography thread that could use a reboot

http://urbanstl.com/forum/viewtopic.php ... dena+Hills

Can the photographs be fixed so they can be seen again? I assume the OP has to do it?

A couple other listings in the neighborhood:

http://www.realtor.com/realestateandhom ... 2881-95575

http://www.realtor.com/realestateandhom ... 3535-37477

love the purple carpeting in the 2nd one...

If Clayton isn't urban than consider me Miles Davis.

Pasadena Hills looks a lot like Clayton. Thanks for sharing

I suggest everything within 250 sq miles of the river is urban...which it really is, just because we got F'ed with small city limits 135 years ago doesn't make chesterfield a far flung rural Missouri....in reality, Chesterfield is part of city limits in a lot of cities.


Here is how City would look if it were top 30 in sq mileage...this is at 241...still about 75 sq miles less then City of Kansas City

Is the city of Saint Louis really a lot smaller in geographic area than the central cities of other major US metropolitan areas? I think Minneapolis is only about 50 or 60 square miles. Even if you added in Saint Paul, I think the total would be under 90 square miles. And if you subtracted the areas taken up by the lakes, the land area would be a fair bit less. This small geographic footprint thing comes up a lot in crime statistics and in other issues. I just don't see it.

Minn/St.Paul are 105sq miles land.

(just land)
Oklahoma City - 607 sq miles (9.2 times bigger )
Nashville- 475 sq miles (7.2 times bigger )
Indianapolis- 361 sq miles (5.5 times bigger)
Louisville- 325 sq miles (4.9 times bigger)
Memphis- 315 sq miles (4.76 times bigger)
Kansas City- 313 sq miles (4.75 times bigger)
Chicago - 227 sq miles (3.4 times bigger)
Columbus- 215 sq miles (3.25 times bigger)
Wichita - 160 sq miles (2.4 times bigger)

those 9+Minn/StPaul= average is 310 sq miles.



others
Houston 599
Phoenix 516
San Antonio 461
New Orleans- 169
Denver- 152
Philly- 140
ATL- 133
Portland- 132
Seattle- 90

And then there is Anchorage with apparently almost 1,700 square miles.

So, with their larger populations...comparable populations per square mile....many crime etc. statistic comparisons of Saint Louis with other major urban area central cities are reasonably fair? Kansas City...No......Chicago..Maybe Yes......Denver..Maybe Yes....Minneapolis alone with 54 square miles and a similar population to St. Louis...Maybe Yes......Seattle...Maybe Yes......Atlanta...Maybe Yes. You have to be careful, but many comparisons are fair; and many are not fair.

if stl was 250 sq miles. Pop would be about 800,000 and probably outside the top 20 most dangerous cities. I would bet that the most dangerous 66 sq miles of Kansas City is worse then the city of stl

I think if you can walk into a neighborhood onto a sidewalk from a major road or streets sidewalk, then it classifies as "urban". So clayton, university city, pasadena hills, STL hills, Wellston etc. all classify as an "urban area". It doesn't necessarily have to be a part of a street grid, although one could argue that could be "more urban". Ladue, chesterfield and other suburbs without a walkable connectivity to the city are not urban in my book.

This is another cool one. No, I'm not the agent. It's incredible a house this cool is this inexpensive and faces the park and pond.

http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/7242- ... ch-address