Not trying to stir anything its just my opinion and have always thought that name was atrocious even when growing up . Like the name Troost and Prospect in Kansas City .... My Grandmother lived near the corner of Goodfellow and Minerva ... One name i can say i like is Cote Brilliant
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St. Louis: COMPTON AVENUE (N-S). Attorney and St. Louis mayor (1864-1868) James S. Thomas made this thoroughfare the principal street in his Compton Hill Subdivision of 1854. This avenue was probably named in honor of Compton Place, a seat of the Duke of Devonshire in England. The section of the street from Bellerive Boulevard to Wilmington Avenue in the Morganford community was known as East Virginia Avenue until 1928 when it was rechristened Compton Avenue. A section of the street in the Old North St. Louis neighborhood originated in 1852 as Alby Street in Smith's subdivision by A. R. Easton. This name persisted until 1867 when the current name was bestowed. (Compton Hill) (Lafayette Square) (Marquette-Cherokee) (Midtown) (Morganford) (Old North St. Louis-Yeatman)
Compton, CA: Known as the Hub City because of its location in nearly the exact geographical center of Los Angeles County, the City of Compton is one of the oldest cities in the county and the eighth to incorporate. The territory was settled in 1867 by a band of 30 pioneering families, who were led to the area by Griffith Dickenson Compton. These families had wagon-trained south from Stockton, California in search of ways to earn a living other than in the rapidly depleting gold fields.
Nothing in common. But, I do love some NWA.
Compton, CA: Known as the Hub City because of its location in nearly the exact geographical center of Los Angeles County, the City of Compton is one of the oldest cities in the county and the eighth to incorporate. The territory was settled in 1867 by a band of 30 pioneering families, who were led to the area by Griffith Dickenson Compton. These families had wagon-trained south from Stockton, California in search of ways to earn a living other than in the rapidly depleting gold fields.
Nothing in common. But, I do love some NWA.
I went to the bond workshop tonight at the History Museum. They should have a website up tomorrow with the slides presented. Looks like the bond issue will be closer to $200M. The thing that irked me the most was $15M for demo. In the discussion people thought it'd be better as stabilization/repair/rehab/demo.
Some folks up north really want more demo, then also complained about empty lots and wanted developers to build.
People were also nervous about a police intelligence center and lots more cameras.
It'll probably be on the ballot this Nov.
Some folks up north really want more demo, then also complained about empty lots and wanted developers to build.
People were also nervous about a police intelligence center and lots more cameras.
It'll probably be on the ballot this Nov.
Below is a post from Lewis on the NextDoor website:
Dear Nextdoor Neighbors,
Next week I will host three town hall discussions regarding a proposed $150 - $200 million general obligation bond issuance for city-wide capital improvement projects. The bond proposal, if passed by voters, would allow the city to cover a portion of its estimated $325 million in current and near term capital improvement needs. Projects would include street and bridge repairs, demolition of condemned properties, the replacement of obsolete government technology, defunct equipment and broken down vehicles, as well as addressing deferred maintenance across city-owned buildings – firehouses, police stations and City Hall.
MEETING SCHEDULE
- Tuesday, April 15th - 6:30-8p, Missouri History Museum (5700 Lindell Blvd)
- Thursday, April 17th - 6:30-8pm, O'Fallon Park Rec Plex (4343 W. Florissant Ave)
- Saturday, April 19th - 12:30 - 2p, Carondelet Rec Plex (930 Holly Hills Ave)
City residents will have an opportunity to have a say in how these dollars would be prioritized and can inspire spending on non-traditional projects and programs to bring tangible benefits to residents, stabilize neighborhoods and spur economic development city-wide.
Of the total estimated investment needed, $155 million was marked “critical to ensure the continued operations of a department, the integrity of City buildings, facilities or infrastructure or to eliminate a serious risk to pubic safety.” In 1999 voters gave approval to a similar bond issuance. Both are repaid through a citywide increase in property taxes.
I've attached a flyer for distribution. If you're interested in volunteering to help facilitate the breakout session, email me at reedl@stlouis-mo.gov or call 314-622-4114.
Sincerely,
Lewis Reed
quincunx wrote:I went to the bond workshop tonight at the History Museum. They should have a website up tomorrow with the slides presented. Looks like the bond issue will be closer to $200M. The thing that irked me the most was $15M for demo. In the discussion people thought it'd be better as stabilization/repair/rehab/demo.
Some folks up north really want more demo, then also complained about empty lots and wanted developers to build.
People were also nervous about a police intelligence center and lots more cameras.
It'll probably be on the ballot this Nov.
I don't see any problem with more demo of truly structurally dangerous buildings. They truly can be hazardous to neighbors and can contribute to real negative consequences for the block.
It's unnecessary demos for parking and those at the hands of brick thieves who destroy otherwise safe buildings that need to be cut back. And from what I've heard, brick theft has decreased recently due to stricter enforcement and penalties against dealers who purchase and shop stolen brick.
Why would there be a property tax increase?
Do we always just add more debt because previous taxes were raised for other obligations? Do they lower the tax rate once these are paid off or does it roll into the general budget? I don't think perpetually raising taxes is a solution.
So this isn't yet paid back and they need more money?In 1999 voters gave approval to a similar bond issuance. Both are repaid through a citywide increase in property taxes.
Do we always just add more debt because previous taxes were raised for other obligations? Do they lower the tax rate once these are paid off or does it roll into the general budget? I don't think perpetually raising taxes is a solution.
^agreed. I wonder how much of it will be to over pay something. Meaning if we didn't have the money, we would find a way. If we had lots of money, we will do they way that costs 5x more than the cheap way.
They said if you had a $125k home and a $15k car you'd pay $42 more per year.
Attended Lewis Reed's public meeting tonight at the Library. Was very glad to see so many residents from various neighborhoods of the city speak up against throwing money at demolishing historic building stock and instead using the money to leverage these assets to rebuild communities. Was very proud of the informed and engaged audience at the meeting tonight (even if they might be a skewed sample)
Demolition funds should have no place in a capital improvement bond.
Demolition funds should have no place in a capital improvement bond.
Someone on twitter said a day or two ago that they'd try to clean the exterior of city hall at tremendous expense with the bond money. Did that come up tonight?
There was just mention of funds going to repair City Hall along with other government buildings but no specifics on the expensive clean-up . I personally would support that.
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Yeah City Hall needs to be cleaned. I've never been inside but from what i understand I wouldn't mind seeing them clean up the inside as well as the technology of the place.
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So what does everyone think the 150 million should go towards?
City upgrades. Technology upgrades, air conditioning, etc. Items that will actually help workers do their jobs better and more efficiently. I don't think they need to spend money making aesthetic changes (i.e. cleaning) to city hall unless it is a real maintenance issue.
Smart stoplights. Roundabouts. Open up the streets along Tower Grove by MoBot. Open up Thurman. Open up and activate the Walton Olive and Walton Wash intersections. Reopen Hartford between Louisiana and Compton.
In the informational documents on this bond issue, $30 million is to go to cleaning the exterior of City Hall.quincunx wrote:Someone on twitter said a day or two ago that they'd try to clean the exterior of city hall at tremendous expense with the bond money. Did that come up tonight?
Is that a typo or does the $30M include other things too? 1/5 of the bond issue money?
The website says
CITY BUILDINGS & VEHICLES: $38,000,000 for renovating city owned buildings and replacing city owned vehicles over time.
The website says
CITY BUILDINGS & VEHICLES: $38,000,000 for renovating city owned buildings and replacing city owned vehicles over time.
I kind of like the stained exterior of City Hall actually. It's kind of a reminder of the city's industrial past.
From what I remember reading, those stains are not the patina of age but from a botched-up chemical cleaning in the past that left stains and residue. Soot would have been more romantic.DannyJ wrote:I kind of like the stained exterior of City Hall actually. It's kind of a reminder of the city's industrial past.
No typo. $30,000,000 for "Exterior Cleaning and Sealing".quincunx wrote:Is that a typo or does the $30M include other things too? 1/5 of the bond issue money?
The website says
CITY BUILDINGS & VEHICLES: $38,000,000 for renovating city owned buildings and replacing city owned vehicles over time.
Correct, the estimated cost of cleaning and sealing the City Hall exterior is $30 million. However, its not in the bond issue. The document online includes everything that was considered to be included so far. That $30 million line item was considered but it didn't make the cut. (I suppose it could be less after it was bid, but there's been some investigation and the price will be really high)
The exterior is made of sandstone (soft) and would essentially have to be cleaned by hand. Power washing it would tear it apart. Repairs to the roof did make the cut.
Scott Ogilvie
24th Ward Alderman
The exterior is made of sandstone (soft) and would essentially have to be cleaned by hand. Power washing it would tear it apart. Repairs to the roof did make the cut.
Scott Ogilvie
24th Ward Alderman
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What do you think we should spend the 30 million on? Just curious what an Alderman thinks.ward24 wrote:Correct, the estimated cost of cleaning and sealing the City Hall exterior is $30 million. However, its not in the bond issue. The document online includes everything that was considered to be included so far. That $30 million line item was considered but it didn't make the cut. (I suppose it could be less after it was bid, but there's been some investigation and the price will be really high)
The exterior is made of sandstone (soft) and would essentially have to be cleaned by hand. Power washing it would tear it apart. Repairs to the roof did make the cut.
Scott Ogilvie
24th Ward Alderman
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How much would property taxes increase to pay for this?