^Grable & Weber of St. Louis. They designed many of the Victorian era mansions on the private streets of STL.
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^Well, so much for that theory. Maybe it really is just the style. Solid entry, in any case, though I do somewhat prefer the asymmetry of what we got. Interesting to see the hint of the more conventionally Victorian looking train shed peaking out from the background.
Found on Facebook. The first would have preserved most of the old warehouses for use as convention halls and exhibition space. 1933.
The second was proposed in 1925. Both by August Leimbach.
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The second was proposed in 1925. Both by August Leimbach.


Another Facebook find. Note the statue of St. Louis.
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According to Moorelander, this Clayton tower is dead (Forsyth and Brentwood).
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Here are some projects that I found on Phorio.
711 Market It seems it would've preserved the old buildings that were once on the site of Kiener Plaza.
4577 Laclede.
Aventura @ Forest Park Phase 3
FPSE Medical Building. This would've risen at Oakland and Kingshighway. It was designed by TRi.
Symphony Place. This would've been built next door to Powell Hall
Finally, this is Urban Village Delmar. This seems to have been proposed closer to Kingshighway. I think the neighboring building is now MadeSTL.
Independence Center. This would've been built where 4101 Laclede is now.
Some sort of condo proposal along Washington Avenue.
The old 9th & Soulard proposal. A new one will be revealed soon
The second version of Chase Bank on Delmar
711 Market It seems it would've preserved the old buildings that were once on the site of Kiener Plaza.
4577 Laclede.
Aventura @ Forest Park Phase 3
FPSE Medical Building. This would've risen at Oakland and Kingshighway. It was designed by TRi.
Symphony Place. This would've been built next door to Powell Hall
Finally, this is Urban Village Delmar. This seems to have been proposed closer to Kingshighway. I think the neighboring building is now MadeSTL.
Independence Center. This would've been built where 4101 Laclede is now.
Some sort of condo proposal along Washington Avenue.
The old 9th & Soulard proposal. A new one will be revealed soon
The second version of Chase Bank on Delmar
The other post wouldn't allow this to be posted...
Harris Armstrong's Central Tower. It would've been built where St. Louis Places stands now
Harris Armstrong's Central Tower. It would've been built where St. Louis Places stands now
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^40 stories plus an attic? Heh! That would have been a beast. Gorgeous. ^^I hope something along the lines of Symphony Place comes back eventually. I understand that was the site of Midtown's first movie theatre, the 1913 New Grand Central.
Good stuff, Chris. And thanks for hipping me to Phorio; I'll soon be wasting many hours there.
Another from Phorio:
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Where would this have been?framer wrote:Another from Phorio:
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809 South Skinker, directly across from Forest Park. It's currently a vacant lot. Pretty vocal NIMBYs in that area.
"This is one of my all time favorite designs. I did this for a developer looking into a new condo tower on Skinker Ave (which is along the west side of Forest Park in St. Louis). The tower to the right is an existing great example of modern architecture. My concept was that the existing tower (being very rectangular and masculine) needed a graceful and feminine companion. Therefore the new design is an oval with a delicate (and provocative) transparent glass evening gown. The image on the right was the concept drawing that won us the job showing the personalities of the existing towers on the street and what ours would contribute (far left). "
http://blog.core10architecture.com/
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"This is one of my all time favorite designs. I did this for a developer looking into a new condo tower on Skinker Ave (which is along the west side of Forest Park in St. Louis). The tower to the right is an existing great example of modern architecture. My concept was that the existing tower (being very rectangular and masculine) needed a graceful and feminine companion. Therefore the new design is an oval with a delicate (and provocative) transparent glass evening gown. The image on the right was the concept drawing that won us the job showing the personalities of the existing towers on the street and what ours would contribute (far left). "
http://blog.core10architecture.com/

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^They have some great designs, it would seem. And I like that they can be playful and fun with their pitches.
I'm pretty pleased with the new soccer stadium design, but I still prefer this one:
Its too basic in my opinion. The new one interacts with the surroundings as well.framer wrote: ↑Nov 08, 2019I'm pretty pleased with the new soccer stadium design, but I still prefer this one:
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^ Am I the only that is a little reminded of Paris' Art Nouveau subway entrances by this thing?
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I’m reminded of the cobwebs hanging from the radiator pipes in my basement.
Framer posting it reminds me that it might be my favorite rendering of anything ever.
Here's a riverfront redevelopment proposal from 1907 - long before the Jefferson National Expansion Memorial was even thought of.
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Heh. I started looking through this thread to see if you had the rendering of the initial tower design for the Renaissance Grand, and here it is. I am still hoping to find a high-quality scan. Do you know what this image was in: P-D, BJ, RFT? I think there was a better, half-page rendering in the P-D or BJ that I had at one point, but haven't found it yet.framer wrote: ↑Mar 24, 2017Here's the original plan for the Marriott (nee Gateway Renaissance) Hotel on Washington, across from the convention center. Budget concerns eventually caused the new tower portion to be greatly reduced in height.
This tower was to be 46 stories. I don't remember the exact height, but it was definitely over 500', and I think taller than the Eagleton Courthouse. That's one of the reasons I was looking for the article.
By the way, it was the National Park Service that nixed this tower. The NPS said it would diminish the historic Statler Hotel, so if it's going to be taller than the historic half, then you get no historic tax credits. And no tax credits, no hotel. That's why the new hotel addition is slightly shorter. This tower proposal also had a higher room count, and would have incorporated all of the conference center space that ended up being built in the separate building one block west instead.
My clipping was in the Post. No idea of the date. They had multiple articles during the time when various companies were competing for the hotel job.
I did not know this: Saarinen's original design called for a four-sided cross section, and a concrete finish. Only in the second round of the competition did he change it to a triangular structure with a stainless steel skin. You can just make it out by looking at the top in this rendering.
The Arch could have looked very different.
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The Arch could have looked very different.








