And didn't KMOV just move out of that building as well?
Sounds like it might be time for a residential conversion.
Sounds like it might be time for a residential conversion.
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I don’t think KMOV will move out for 6-12 months if not longer. They just closed on a new building that will take a while to retrofit into a studioRockChalkSTL wrote: ↑Aug 15, 2022And didn't KMOV just move out of that building as well?
Sounds like it might be time for a residential conversion.
Another Downtown W
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^ Love it. Back to their original neighborhood. We used to frequent it when they were in the Ely Walker and we were in the Annex. Awesome breakfast sandwiches.
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Yeah, same. Used to go there for bfast when I lived at Moon Bros.
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Those Downtowns are all significantly bigger than STL. Even Cleveland and Cincinnati. They don't have a second skyline diluting their core.dbInSouthCity wrote: ↑Jul 15, 2022
I don't get how "apartments" is the default answer for everything. If I want an apartment DT today in any price bracket I'll get it, people need reasons to move there. Employers moving out does not help. Its almost like theres a theory that converting a building to apartments will fill them. Its lazy and naive.
How long till Stifel and Peabody are looking to vacate for West County or Clayton?
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Stifel isnt going anywhre, they bought their building.
Peabody has been planning to move for a while and sold their building.
Peabody has been planning to move for a while and sold their building.
If 909 Chestnut was converted to residential what would downtown office vacancy be ?
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I heard they don't count 909 in the total vacancy percentage
With all these long time albatross renovations finally getting plans, what do we have left? The to-do list gets shorter and shorter.
- Railway Exchange and associated garage
- Chemical Building
- Butler Bros
- Chouteau's Landing
- Jefferson Arms
- Buildings on 2100 block of Locust
- City Place Hotel
- AT&T
- YMCA/21C
- Millennium Hotel
- Civil Courts
- 1122 Locust Garage
- 1711 Locust and the Powerhouse
- 215 N 21st St
- NLEC (is it actually abandoned though?)
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Apartments aren’t the default. Have you noticed the number of new hotel units online over the last 4 years?Suburban Sprawl wrote: ↑Aug 18, 2022
I don't get how "apartments" is the default answer for everything. If I want an apartment DT today in any price bracket I'll get it, people need reasons to move there. Employers moving out does not help. Its almost like theres a theory that converting a building to apartments will fill them. Its lazy and naive.
And in case you missed it, there was this whole pandemic thing and no one goes to office buildings anymore. I work in a Clayton high rise - the place is a ghost town. Same applies to the new Centene Tower. Bayer is offloading half of its campus.
Apartments are better than empty buildings.
And there are tons of great reasons to live downtown (1) easy access to the two largest employment districts in the region (if you are going into work), (2) national park within walking distance, (3) all 4 professional sports teams in walking distance, (5) solid restaurant scene, (6) very good bar scene, (7) solid housing options at a more affordable rate compared to Clayton and CWE, (8) easy access to nightlife in Soulard.
I’m sure DB could list another dozen things I missed.
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First, DB posted something interesting on Twitter: the owner of Millennium may be planning to renovate it. A spokesperson with the ownership group behind the hotel chain stated they don't plan to sell it and do want to renovate it in a BizJ article on the code violations. Not entirely sure I believe it yet, but that's . . . interesting.GoHarvOrGoHome wrote: ↑Aug 19, 2022With all these long time albatross renovations finally getting plans, what do we have left? The to-do list gets shorter and shorter.
- Railway Exchange and associated garage
- Chemical Building
- Butler Bros
- Chouteau's Landing
- Jefferson Arms
- Buildings on 2100 block of Locust
- City Place Hotel
- AT&T
- YMCA/21C
- Millennium Hotel
- Civil Courts
- 1122 Locust Garage
- 1711 Locust and the Powerhouse
- 215 N 21st St
- NLEC (is it actually abandoned though?)
Second, I think you mean the Municipal Courts. Civil Courts is the 20s skyscraper in the middle of the mall.
WeWork closed at the Metropolitan Building. That sign they put on top was atrocious.
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Cushman Wakefield will be redeveloping US Bank Plaza downtown starting in 2023. No renderings, but at the very least it'll include an updated lobby, amenity floor and sky lounge.
Will the sky-lounge be public?
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At least the mentioned the Metro station and before the 3 paring garages!
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Ummmm maybe because most cities make their sky lounge to the public. Chicago and NYC do it all the time.
If it was sarcasm I didn’t catch it.
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Exactly. Skyscrapers do this all the time. It’s a fair question to ask. Public doesn’t mean it has be free. People would pay to go up there and see the viewJJ Taino wrote:Ummmm maybe because most cities make their sky lounge to the public. Chicago and NYC do it all the time.
If it was sarcasm I didn’t catch it.
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^Or put a bar up there and let folks order a drink for the view. But why would they want to be good Ambassadors?
(For the record, I almost did a college project on reusing that hall way back in the day. Kind of wish I had.)
(For the record, I almost did a college project on reusing that hall way back in the day. Kind of wish I had.)
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I for one would appreciate more observation decks in St. Louis.
And rooftop bars.