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^Sure, if that's the result of an actual investigation.

Someone torching their partners vehicle is criminal. Not to mention it ignited the one behind it.

I think some of you missed this bit. Maybe it was added later?

"SLMPD told News 4 Thursday that the department has surveillance video of the moments before the two cars were torched to flames. Police said a man shooting fireworks at 13th and St. Charles is what caused the cars to catch fire. The case is currently classified as a reckless burning"

SB in BH wrote: ↑

Jul 07, 2022

^Except they don't know it was fireworks and, even if that is the case, fireworks are still illegal in the City, correct? So this is the result of a crime. Seems like it would be pretty easy to determine the cause given the presence of cameras in the area--the stated reason for parking on St. Charles--but apparently the fuzz hasn't gotten around to investigating. Hopefully they do, but I won't hold my breath.

"Wreckless burning" is doubtless a crime, but I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that it's a misdemeanor. For which you can be ticketed. Like parking where you shouldn't. And you know what? The crime stats aren't misdemeanor stats. They're for the serious stuff. This wouldn't make the cut much of anywhere short of Singapore.

Glad to see they investigated and that it was *only* a reckless burning rather than arson. I'm sure that will help alleviate the public perception that downtown is a lawless hellhole.

Remember, we're not special

$450k building permit application submitted for a Domino's Pizza at 400 N Tucker

https://www.kmov.com/2022/07/12/st-char ... mongering/

I love the low key classism and how he had to take a dig a downtown st. louis 

Thatguy644 wrote: ↑

Jul 12, 2022

https://www.kmov.com/2022/07/12/st-char ... mongering/

I love the low key classism and how he had to take a dig a downtown st. louis 

Low-key classism and subtle racism. Might as well say St. Charles is pushing to be a sundown town. These are the kind of policies that just make young people want to leave the region honestly. Most cities the size of St. Louis have multiple late night nodes.

Thatguy644 wrote: ↑

Jul 12, 2022

https://www.kmov.com/2022/07/12/st-char ... mongering/

I love the low key classism and how he had to take a dig a downtown st. louis 

This is nothing new in St. Charles. When I was a kid in the 80's the Main St. businesses banned bikes and skateboards because they thought it brought out a bad element lol. 

goat314 wrote: ↑

Jul 12, 2022

Thatguy644:https://www.kmov.com/2022/07/12/st-char ... mongering/

I love the low key classism and how he had to take a dig a downtown st. louis 

Most cities the size of St. Louis have multiple late night nodes.

We do, or at least used to. I was impressed by the number of choices for a night our here when I was younger (yes, I have experience in many other cities as well).  Landing, Wash Ave, Soulard were the big spots, but add in areas of midtown, CWE, the loop.  Then more recently the grove, BPV, Tin roof, wheelhouse etc, and to some extent S. Grand, Morganford.

^I'm old so maybe just out of touch, but I second the notion that StL has tons of great nightlife options in the City proper and in the streetcar suburbs nearby (WG, Brentwood, Loop, etc.). Whatever way you like to party, you can find a neighborhood with 3+ walkable options to get your fix. Absolutely no reason to go out in St. Charles if you don't live there, unless you just have the dullest of Normie tastes, in which case you should save yourself the drive and check out Kirkwood (/s).

^^yeah I kind of remember the decent bands that played at some of the North Main St bars like The Boathouse. But yeah the "likes to fight guy" crowd seemed to amp up as sh*tkcikers from Lincoln County came down to party at those bars in what they considered "the city"--while St. Charles folk started going across the river to Wesport, the Loop, Downtown. 

City Garden Kaldis Coffee will reopen 7/19 (its will do coffee and bakery items, no full lunch service like pre covid)

A bunch of rapid-fire shots were fired into a car(?) at CityView at 15th and Olive at noontime. The police were there collecting evidence afterwards. I'm assuming nobody was hit based on the calls for service, but not certain.

I thought it was just construction noise until people started running.  Not a great start to a walk.

That building has had more than one shooting out front lately.

As a former school teacher at SLPS and multiple Florida jurisdictions. I would say that the problem is total breakdown of family structure and rampant poverty that stems from that. This problem is particularly acute in impoverished communities (both urban and rural/all races), where many kids will have single mothers that are either 1) working multiple minimum wage jobs to make end meets, 2) living with elderly grandparents that just don't have the energy to watch their kids, and 3) have parents battling drug addiction where the kids have to raise themselves. I'm all for law and order, but I really think we have to invest more in communities and family building again. The drug epidemics of the past 50 years or so, mixed with the deindustrialization of the economy has really done a number on the working/poor classes of America. Recently, I was in NYC and all people talked about was how bad crime had gotten with brazen violence and property crimes happening in even affluent areas of town. Add in the new "clout chasing" culture of social media where narcissistic attention seeking is praised and the increasing popularity of violent music amongst young men, it's no wonder we are seeing stuff like this going. I could be incorrect, but I've seen this storm brewing for a while now. I don't know what America is going to do as a culture, but the sharp increase in recent years in violent crime, mass shootings, etc. is very troubling. I know things were very bad during the 80s and 90s, my family left North St. Louis when I was a young child because of the violence and crime. I don't think it's that bad now, but a lot of that stuff was between actual drug gangs fighting for turf. Now it seems there is an increase in random attacks on innocent people. Really creepy stuff going on for sure. 

^Great comment. Here's some context that I've posted elsewhere on this site recently:

Trends in Income, 1975-2018, Rand Corporation, 2020.

In short, compared to the national distribution of income in 1975, some $47 Trillion has been transferred from the bottom 90% to the top 10%, and really the top .01% of the population as of 2018.  This transfer was predictable, deliberate, and bipartisan, and its accelerating with each successive "crisis" over the last 50 years.

I'm not a conspiracy theorist and/or a Marxist, but the obvious conclusion is that there's a concerted effort by an organized ruling class to further their own interests at the expense of everyone else. 

There's always people hanging out outside that building and the BJC behavioral place next door. Had to be frightening.

Walking home by that building one night a couple months ago at maybe 10pm on a weeknight there's a guy standing on the sidewalk with a long gun strapped to his chest. It's feeling pretty rough there at times.

eee123 wrote: ↑

Jul 12, 2022

There's always people hanging out outside that building and the BJC behavioral place next door. Had to be frightening.

Walking home by that building one night a couple months ago at maybe 10pm on a weeknight there's a guy standing on the sidewalk with a long gun strapped to his chest. It's feeling pretty rough there at times.

Seems like an extreme way to punish expired temp tags

goat314 wrote: ↑

Jul 12, 2022

As a former school teacher at SLPS and multiple Florida jurisdictions. I would say that the problem is total breakdown of family structure and rampant poverty that stems from that. This problem is particularly acute in impoverished communities (both urban and rural/all races), where many kids will have single mothers that are either 1) working multiple minimum wage jobs to make end meets, 2) living with elderly grandparents that just don't have the energy to watch their kids, and 3) have parents battling drug addiction where the kids have to raise themselves. I'm all for law and order, but I really think we have to invest more in communities and family building again. The drug epidemics of the past 50 years or so, mixed with the deindustrialization of the economy has really done a number on the working/poor classes of America. Recently, I was in NYC and all people talked about was how bad crime had gotten with brazen violence and property crimes happening in even affluent areas of town. Add in the new "clout chasing" culture of social media where narcissistic attention seeking is praised and the increasing popularity of violent music amongst young men, it's no wonder we are seeing stuff like this going. I could be incorrect, but I've seen this storm brewing for a while now. I don't know what America is going to do as a culture, but the sharp increase in recent years in violent crime, mass shootings, etc. is very troubling. I know things were very bad during the 80s and 90s, my family left North St. Louis when I was a young child because of the violence and crime. I don't think it's that bad now, but a lot of that stuff was between actual drug gangs fighting for turf. Now it seems there is an increase in random attacks on innocent people. Really creepy stuff going on for sure. 

100% percent right.  

Not sure if someone else caught and posted somewhere else but Bizjournals reporting that Kaldi will reopen at CityGarden.   Will keep up with the drumbeat that Twain sculpture should be moved for an expanded CityGraden/more active space especially if 909 Chestnut will ever get redeveloped which most likely be a combo of residential/hotel/office.    

https://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/new ... 7#cxrecs_s

Coffee lovers who work in or visit downtown St. Louis will soon have another place to grab a cup and a pastry.
After being closed since March 2020, at the start of the Covid-19 pandemic, Kaldi's Coffee is reopening its location in downtown St. Louis at Citygarden.

In the grand scheme of things this is a bunt single but sometime we need bunt singles to load the bases and hit a grand slam but my fiancés 4 full time + 6-10 part time employee PR shop signed a lease for a downtown office today (555 Washington) and they'll be growing to 10-15 full time and another dozen part time within the next 12 months.

https://pattan.co/whatwedo