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The Real Citizens for Greater Downtown

The Real Citizens for Greater Downtown

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PostJan 01, 2025#1

made some edits, ive been wanting to write this for a while as an op ed in Post or Biz Journal. 


Citizens for Greater Downtown has never been the grassroots organization it claims to be. From its inception, it was never a broad coalition of concerned residents working together for the betterment of downtown St. Louis. Instead, it began as a small group—a few individuals—who had a clear but self-serving goal: to gain control over millions of dollars from the Downtown Community Improvement District (CID). When they failed in that effort a few years ago, their focus shifted dramatically. What remains today is a hollowed-out operation, functioning primarily as a social media account obsessed with amplifying fear and negativity under the guise of advocacy. Over time, their approach has become predictable: amplify minor incidents, sensationalize problems, and ignore the broader reality of progress and positivity in downtown.
 
Their narrative hinges on painting downtown as a place in perpetual decline, presenting themselves as the lone voice of reason and the only ones who truly understand or care about the issues. In doing so, they not only misrepresent the actual state of downtown but also alienate the many residents, businesses, and organizations who are actively working to make it a better place. This relentless negativity has become more than just a strategy; it’s the account’s entire identity. They’ve built a brand around the notion that downtown is irredeemable, that every problem is catastrophic, and that no one else is paying attention or working to solve these challenges.
 
Positive developments—new businesses, cultural events, or moments of celebration—are conspicuously absent from their coverage because these stories don’t fit their chosen narrative. Instead, they focus on isolated incidents, often exaggerating them to paint a distorted and fear-laden picture of the area. Their obsession with amplifying the negative has led them to criticize or mischaracterize even the most harmless and inclusive activities. Their lens is so skewed toward fear that they are unable—or unwilling—to acknowledge the overwhelming reality: that downtown St. Louis is improving and filled with promise.
 
 The truth is that downtown is alive with energy and opportunity. The vast majority of what happens—99% of it—is positive. Businesses are opening and thriving, bringing new jobs and opportunities to the area. Cultural events are drawing people together. Dedicated residents and organizations are investing their time, money, and energy to make the neighborhood safer, more vibrant, and more inclusive. These efforts are not just anecdotal—they’re tangible signs of a downtown on the rise. But Citizens for Greater Downtown chooses to ignore this because acknowledging progress would undermine the narrative they’ve spent years constructing. This one-note approach isn’t just unhelpful—it’s actively harmful. By constantly broadcasting a message of decline and despair, the account discourages investment, participation, and engagement. It alienates those who could be allies in the effort to improve downtown and creates a false sense of hopelessness that serves no one. Worse, it erodes trust in the genuine efforts being made by community leaders, residents, and businesses who see the potential in downtown and are working to realize it.
 
 The issues downtown faces are not unique to St. Louis, nor are they insurmountable. Cities everywhere experience growing pains as they evolve, and downtown St. Louis is no different. What sets successful cities apart is the ability of their communities to come together, focus on solutions, and celebrate progress when it happens.
 
 Unfortunately, Citizens for Greater Downtown has chosen a different path—one that fixates on problems without offering meaningful solutions and amplifies fear instead of fostering collaboration. By clinging to this narrative of perpetual crisis, the account has become little more than an echo chamber of negativity. It’s a voice that contributes nothing constructive to the ongoing efforts to make downtown St. Louis a vibrant, inclusive, and thriving community.

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PostJan 01, 2025#2

Yeah, any group with Les Sterman AND Craig Heller at the top of their pyramid should probably not be taken seriously. 

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PostJan 02, 2025#3

It is interesting who replies to their Twitter posts now. 

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PostJan 02, 2025#4

Citizens for a Greater Downtown that only posts things to discourage people from visiting or living downtown.

Between that account, Les Sterman, Jane Dueker, Jason Riviera (who apparently is a burner), we have some real cancerous commentary that gets perpetuated, on top of a local media that has only recently started to be a little less negative about everything city and downtown.

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PostJan 02, 2025#5

delmar2debaliviere2downtown wrote:
Jan 02, 2025
Citizens for a Greater Downtown that only posts things to discourage people from visiting or living downtown.

Between that account, Les Sterman, Jane Dueker, Jason Riviera (who apparently is a burner), we have some real cancerous commentary that gets perpetuated, on top of a local media that has only recently started to be a little less negative about everything city and downtown.
For being downtown "boosters", they sure seem to hate everything and everyone. I don't think one of their social media posts have included anything positive. 

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PostJan 02, 2025#6

Like most everything in life, the truth lies in the middle of Citizens pessimism and DB’s incessant optimism.

Yes, there is tangible proof of development.

But we also face the reality of 10-15 boarded up windows on the ATT building facing the north side, a shootout outside the Wheelhouse on NYE, and a tree that was growing out of the top of the Millennium Hotel roof this past summer. Hahahahah.

A fugging tree! Great look when attending a Cards game!

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PostJan 02, 2025#7

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Jan 02, 2025
Like most everything in life, the truth lies in the middle of Citizens pessimism and DB’s incessant optimism.

Yes, there is tangible proof of development.

But we also face the reality of 10-15 boarded up windows on the ATT building facing the north side, a shootout outside the Wheelhouse on NYE, and a tree that was growing out of the top of the Millennium Hotel roof this past summer. Hahahahah.

A fugging tree! Great look when attending a Cards game!
That's why I follow both. The problem is Citizens for Greater Downtown cranks the negativity to 11. I'd swear they lived in a 3500 sq ft/3 car garage McMansion in O'Fallon with a lifted bro-dozer in the driveway and a "Trump 2024 F*ck Your Feelings" flag flying out front with the vitriol they have for downtown.

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PostJan 02, 2025#8

A shootout aka as a run of the mill drunk bar fight and a cop shooting someone and from the video, it’s hard to figure out why at this point.

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PostJan 02, 2025#9

TheWayoftheArch_V2.0 wrote:
Jan 01, 2025
Yeah, any group with Les Sterman AND Craig Heller at the top of their pyramid should probably not be taken seriously. 
Weird.  Craig Heller is Alex Oliver's right hand man.  Quite the contradicting messages between Greater Downtown and Oliver Properties.  

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PostJan 02, 2025#10

Heller isn't actually involved nor is really anyone else.  the website lists bunch of people but nobody's actually involved in anything. There is no meetings, nothing.  just a fear porn twitter account 

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PostJan 02, 2025#11

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Jan 02, 2025
Heller isn't actually involved nor is really anyone else.  the website lists bunch of people but nobody's actually involved in anything. There is no meetings, nothing.  just a fear porn twitter account 
That would make sense.  Thanks for the clarification. 

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PostJan 02, 2025#12

The greatest current value in living in STL is we have very little illegal immigrants/terrorists so we can feel pretty safe with regards to that BS.

They don’t even want to be here!

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PostJan 02, 2025#13

whitherSTL wrote:
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The greatest current value in living in STL is we have very little illegal immigrants/terrorists so we can feel pretty safe with regards to that BS.

They don’t even want to be here!
Look, I’m not exactly the sharpest tool in the shed, nor am I some kind of genius innovator or workaholic. But honestly, when my competition is people like you, it doesn’t take much to come out on top. I’m practically winning by default over here. Honestly, I should probably thank you, maybe I’ll send you a fruitcake next Christmas.

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PostJan 02, 2025#14

No competition. I live in a 5000 sq foot house and have a place in Jupiter, FL. Zero competition.

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PostJan 02, 2025#15

whitherSTL wrote:
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No competition. I live in a 5000 sq foot house and have a place in Jupiter, FL. Zero competition.
you seem sad. 

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PostJan 02, 2025#16

Your op-ed may have more impact if you could get some higher profile (no disrespect lol) DT stakeholders to co-sign like LHM, one of the sports teams, Drury, etc.

And as long as we’re talking about groups that tend to pump bad PR for DT while downplaying or omitting positive stories, you can’t leave out the Biz Journal.

PostJan 02, 2025#17

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No competition. I live in a 5000 sq foot house and have a place in Jupiter, FL. Zero competition.
you seem sad. 
Who tf moderates this website anymore? This a**hole should have been booted ages ago.

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PostJan 02, 2025#18

It's easier to just put them on your "ignore list" - works well, but you still have to read their posts when other people quote them. 

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PostJan 02, 2025#19

St. Louis desperately needs new immigrants lol. The idea that we benefit from not having them is purely delusional.

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PostJan 03, 2025#20

What’s purely delusional is people thinking downtown STL isn’t a *hole. It is. You leftists got your azz handed to you last election. It’s a fact. Pull your heads out! Firms leaving left and right!

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PostJan 03, 2025#21

whitherSTL wrote:
Jan 03, 2025
What’s purely delusional is people thinking downtown STL isn’t a *hole. It is. You leftists got your azz handed to you last election. It’s a fact. Pull your heads out! Firms leaving left and right!
Such a troll. Just why even be here, considering the purpose of this forum?

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PostJan 03, 2025#22

whitherSTL wrote:
Jan 03, 2025
What’s purely delusional is people thinking downtown STL isn’t a *hole. It is. You leftists got your azz handed to you last election. It’s a fact. Pull your heads out! Firms leaving left and right!
I'm not a leftist. I'm center-right, former Republican, and believe in capitalism.

STL is not a sh*t hole, but it could definitely be better. Step 1 to making it better is to get more people living in it. Immigrants, such as the Bosnians, provide an exponential benefit to the city, state, and country as a whole. America would not be the superpower that it is today without immigrants.

But throughout its history, we have always had morons like you- pushing back against Asian immigration, Southern and Eastern European immigration, and Central American immigration for no reason other than you're a bigot. Certainly not a capitalist.

And Kamala Harris is not a leftist either.

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PostJan 03, 2025#23

whitherSTL wrote:
Jan 03, 2025
What’s purely delusional is people thinking downtown STL isn’t a *hole. It is. You leftists got your azz handed to you last election. It’s a fact. Pull your heads out! Firms leaving left and right!
And firms moving in left and right. As I said, I am very successful because people like you are the competition

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PostJan 03, 2025#24

I once followed along with what they were posting on their social media account. At one point, it seemed like they objectively wanted to see downtown better off, but the mood has soured. 

Sure, Downtown St. Louis has its issues (there's no denying them), but how can you advocate for a better Downtown without pointing out the good things going on? You get a better Downtown when you recognize realities. Being constantly pessimistic and sharing that vibe with your followers is not a good way to get people to see Downtown a different way. One can blame Tishaura, Megan Green, and other politicians for the issues that Downtown faces but we all know that the issues go back for decades and only recently have things started to positively change.

A lot of work remains to make Downtown St. Louis "the place to be". Incidents involving criminal activity are always going to be a bruise on the reputation, but there are good things happening. It's not like everyone will go to bed one night with Downtown being the way it is and then wake up the next day to it resembling a bustling place. It takes time.

"Citizens for a Greater Downtown" needs to recognize this.

Everyone knows I don't live in St. Louis anymore, but whenever I visit, I notice incremental changes to Downtown that are making it a little bit better each time. Lots of work remains, but the gist is you win some and you lose some. Celebrate the wins and take the losses as a lesson to improve for later. 2025 should yield a slate of positive announcements. It's how a certain group of people frame these announcements will be the most telling.

Will Citizens for a Greater Downtown celebrate the redevelopment of the AT&T Tower and (maybe) the Railway Exchange? What about the plan to replace the Millennium Hotel with something very nice? Or what about Thompson Coburn recommitting to Downtown and moving into Ballpark Village? Or what about Gateway South finally beginning construction? Let's not forget the activities around CityPark. Each of these are incremental enhancements to Downtown. All work together to achieve a more vibrant neighborhood. 

I might no longer live in St. Louis, but it doesn't mean I want Downtown to be a crap place. It hurts to see the heart of the region hurt whenever something bad happens. It's even worse when tragedy gets more airtime than victory.

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PostJan 03, 2025#25

STLAPTS wrote:
Jan 02, 2025
TheWayoftheArch_V2.0 wrote:
Jan 01, 2025
Yeah, any group with Les Sterman AND Craig Heller at the top of their pyramid should probably not be taken seriously. 
Weird.  Craig Heller is Alex Oliver's right hand man.  Quite the contradicting messages between Greater Downtown and Oliver Properties.  
Holy hell, Heller is still allowed to do biz in DT after Pyramid?  Set the JA back 20 years.

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