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PostJul 22, 2005#26

Great find, DeBaliviere. I was beginning to think it was a bust.



I hope the parties can resolve their differences. Lots of land for potential residential infill around that area too.
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PostAug 14, 2005#27

From the Mayor Slay Blog.



The Polar Wave Ice and Fuel Company buildings at Chouteau and 7th Street. These structures are part of a new "Ice House Development" that will include restaurants, a banquet center, and offices
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PostAug 15, 2005#28

The Polar Wave Ice and Fuel Company buildings at Chouteau and 7th Street. These structures are part of a new "Ice House Development" that will include restaurants, a banquet center, and offices


I hope that this turns into more of a corridor between Soulard and Downtown rather than a couple of buildings with restaurants and offices. Does anyone know any greater details about this?
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PostAug 15, 2005#29

friends of my family own the huge parking lot at 7th and choteau across from the eat rite. i used to work the cardinal games for them. boy are they sitting on a gold mine.
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PostAug 16, 2005#30

They should develop that gold mine and make it something greater than a parking lot. Although, they must be making a killing... I still think they should make thier goal improving the city rather than fleecing thier plot of land. That's probably wishful thinking though, sure money is hard to beat.
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PostAug 22, 2005#31

The Polar Wave Ice and Fuel Co., Plant No. 6 has been successfully nominated for the National Register of Historic Places. According to the St. Louis Business Journal, the nomination will now be submitted for approval by the keeper of the National Register in Washington.



<A HREF="http://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/stor ... ily14.html">>>> read more</A>



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Here is the link DeBaliviere provided us on July 22 posted on the previous page. It covers the nomination to the National Register for the Polar Wave Ice and Fuel Company, Plant No. 6 by the City of St. Louis Preservation Board. It is a five page PDF document that contains photos and background of the building being nominated...


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PostAug 23, 2005#32

Not sure the exact location, but was wondering if anybody knows what is going on with the corner building on 7th in this area with the collapsed rear wall? I am assuming it was an accident and not a intentional teardown.
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PostAug 23, 2005#33

^

I noticed that too. One of the posters here mentioned that his boss/owner of his company is renovating that building as a bar. It looks like they've stabilized it, so hopefully they can continue the renovation work.
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PostAug 23, 2005#34

DeBaliviere wrote:^

I noticed that too. One of the posters here mentioned that his boss/owner of his company is renovating that building as a bar. It looks like they've stabilized it, so hopefully they can continue the renovation work.


Yea, I was over there this morning. The wall was just old and collapsed amongst the construction. They told me that it should not really create any dealays with the renovation. By the way the office building across the street is really awesome and we are looking to move in on the 31st. I think they will have a grand opening event in October with the Mayor raising the flag out in the parking lot. They will also be applying for some type of beautification awards.
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PostAug 23, 2005#35

^Thank you. I saw that last Friday and had that sick feeling that they were tearing the building down.



Does anyone know if the scrapyard nextdoor to this building is getting the boot? That has to be a brownfield. I swear I've seen them burning oil on a giant grill by the 7th street ramp.
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PostAug 23, 2005#36

Yeah, from what I've heard, the scrapyard is going to be taken by eminent domain. The buyout should be happening soon.
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PostAug 23, 2005#37

^That's good new. That was one of my top eyesores for that area.
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PostOct 24, 2005#38

I noticed today there were signs of activity in the recently renovated office building on 7th & Hickory. It seems like it took them forever to get that building rehabbed. There are large signs for a place called the 'Art of Living', lights were on inside and a City flag was flying out front.



Now they need to get that bar fixed up across the street.



Also, there are plans to fix up the sidewalks and improve the appearance of 7th st b/w Park and around Gratiot. Along with the proposed improvements around the Ice House District, this should improve connectivity b/w downtown and Soulard.
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PostOct 24, 2005#39

It's great to see that building finally done. I really hope that area flourishes as it will greatly improve my walk/bike ride downtown to ballgames, etc. Any news on the scrapyard being removed? I know it's a business, but it just kills the view coming off the 7th Street exit, and you'd think they'd want a bigger plot elsewhere anyway.
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PostJul 24, 2006#40

After a lengthy delay, this project may be making a comeback. I've heard that the developers have split the development up and will be taking it on separately instead of together.

PostAug 02, 2006#41

From the (Cheap-Ass) Business Journal:


Folk music venue on tap for the Ice House District

St. Louis Business Journal - July 28, 2006

by Rick Desloge



Within a few blocks of downtown St. Louis, the same developers who rehabbed the Art of Living building want to convert what was once a neighborhood bar into a folk music venue.



Dan Schmitt, a principal of the Ice House District development group, said investors also are considering bringing other commercial operations to the ground floors of new and rehabbed buildings in the district, and residential units to the upper floors of these properties.



The Ice House District, part of the LaSalle Neighborhood, takes its name from ice houses that operated in the district at one time. The district is bound by Chouteau Avenue on the north, Interstate 55 on the south, Broadway on the east and South Seventh Street on the west. In addition to having a clear view and short walk to Busch Stadium, the area is on the eastern end of the Nestle Purina Pet Care campus and just north of Soulard market.



The folk music venue would be located in what used to be Pat & Rose's, a tavern that Schmitt and investors are rehabbing and renaming the Old Rock House.



However, the Ice House District plans are coming together slowly, Schmitt said, with the investment group working to answer a few basic questions, including how many investors are going to be part of the group. Schmitt said he and Mark Disper, property manager of the Art of Living building, and attorney Jonathan Dalton of Lewis, Rice & Fingersh currently are working with Fred Barrera and Matt Librach, owners of one of the original ice house buildings on the corner of Broadway and Chouteau Avenue. The group is considering bringing in additional partners as plans unfold to build out a larger section of the three-block Ice House District, six blocks south of Busch Stadium.



Schmitt, Dalton and Disper spent $8 million to redevelop the 52,000-square-foot Moloney Electric building into the Art of Living building, which rents to small businesses that pay by their number of people, not square footage, and take advantage of office services in a common area. That building is at Seventh and Hickory streets, just outside of the Ice House District development area. Schmitt moved his business, Anthony, Allan & Quinn, which operates an event marketing company, a media buying firm and a business management company, to the Art of Living neighborhood from Earth City in October.



In addition to the Old Rock House, the neighborhood also includes Shamrock Pub at 1131 Broadway and buildings that house React Environmental Engineers and an auto salvage yard. The salvage yard, with cars piled up behind the proposed Old Rock House, has been at the site for about 50 years. Schmitt said he and his partners are encouraging the business to relocate.



The district also includes the Madison Elementary School, located at 1118 S. Seventh St. Madison is home to an alternative education program.
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PostAug 02, 2006#42

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought the Old Rock House was torn down to make way for the Arch.
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PostAug 02, 2006#43

brickandmortar wrote:Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought the Old Rock House was torn down to make way for the Arch.


That's correct. They tried to save it by moving it to a diffenent location, but it basically deteriorated when they began the move.
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PostAug 02, 2006#44

DeBaliviere wrote:
brickandmortar wrote:Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought the Old Rock House was torn down to make way for the Arch.


That's correct. They tried to save it by moving it to a diffenent location, but it basically deteriorated when they began the move.


Is that the one they moved to South Broadway, around Pennsylvania?
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PostAug 02, 2006#45

No, the building by the Arch didn't survive. I think the stone house near Broadway was relocated from elsewhere in Carondelet, if my memory serves me.
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PostAug 02, 2006#46

The stone house in Carondelet was moved from a lot that was located on the local chemical factory property. The Rock house was located on the current Arch grounds and was dismantled during the demolition and placed in storage with the intent to rebuild later. However it's stones were lost/stolen over time and very little of it still survives.
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PostAug 02, 2006#47

I know the article says they're encouraging the salvage yard to relocate. I think that'd be key to making the area look alot nicer. Anyone think they'll be successfull? Also, how much do you think this area will help connect Soulard to Downtown?
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PostAug 02, 2006#48

From what I've heard, "encouraging" may be a bit euphemistic. :wink:
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PostAug 03, 2006#49

There are two Rock Houses in St. Louis. The one in Carondelet, and the one that existed on the Arch grounds. I don't know much about the one in Carondelet. I do know the one on the Arch grounds was built in the 1810s. It was a fur warehouse, but was greatly modified over the years, have had a storefront added, a corner taken out for a bigger intersection, and a third floor added. The building was taken apart when the riverfront was demolished but rebuilt to its early appearance. Most of the stones used where replacements since the original rock crumbled away when the building was dismantled. It was removed when the railroad tracks were buried in the 1960s and never replaced.
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PostAug 06, 2006#50

^Nicely summed up, Melders. I built an exact-copy scale model of The Old Rock house a few years ago, and did quite a bit of research on it. Your info matches mine, which is surprising, considering all the rumours and legends surrounding the building.



By the way, there is a full-size mock-up of one corner of The Old Rock House on display in the basement of The Old Courthouse. And they've got some cool old photos of it upstairs in the library/archives.
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