stellar wrote:DeBaliviere wrote:Does the owner of the Hi Pointe have any plans to reopen elsewhere?
Lisa is 50 yrs old now and ready for other challenges in life.
Plus that car accident she had a few years ago didn't help.
Plus that car accident she had a few years ago didn't help.
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markofucity wrote:I agree with you overall ... but you should check out the Lucas Park School House. That venue is phenomemal. About the same size (concert area wise) as the highpoint too ....
^I heard the following from someone that works at the Hi-Pointe bar (so take it with as much salt as you need):
The building in which the Hi-Pointe bar resides (but not the theatre), the Chinese place, the bar at the Cheshire Inn, and the parking lot in front, have all been purchased by Lester Miller (the guy what renovated Busch's Grove). The person had no information on the plan for the property, but it is a small site, and I am sure it wasn't cheap, so I would imagine it is going to be a mid-rise, mixed-use project which will probably take up the entire site. Maybe an extension/renovation of the Cheshire is on tap, complete with 5-star restaurant?
It would also be a great place for a high-rise, since it is supposedly the highest point in the city, but I am not sure the site as described is big enough, unless he plans to buy up additional property behind those?
The building in which the Hi-Pointe bar resides (but not the theatre), the Chinese place, the bar at the Cheshire Inn, and the parking lot in front, have all been purchased by Lester Miller (the guy what renovated Busch's Grove). The person had no information on the plan for the property, but it is a small site, and I am sure it wasn't cheap, so I would imagine it is going to be a mid-rise, mixed-use project which will probably take up the entire site. Maybe an extension/renovation of the Cheshire is on tap, complete with 5-star restaurant?
It would also be a great place for a high-rise, since it is supposedly the highest point in the city, but I am not sure the site as described is big enough, unless he plans to buy up additional property behind those?
^This could be interesting. Of course, don't believe everything you hear in a bar. 
Apologies if I'm asking a question that has already been answered elsewhere... I've been away for a while. Is the Fox & Hounds closed?
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The Fox & Hound is still open, but the separate bar (the "Inn"?) is closed.
OK guys, you're missing out on some obvious venues that can (and have) taken a lot of shows away from the old Hi-Pointe:
Lemmons
The Way Out Club
Off Broadway
Creepy Crawl
There are a few others, but those are the main ones. Cicero's is also rumored to be wanting to book more punk and rock'n'roll acts and get away from the jam band crap.
Hi-Pointe wasn't a 500-1,000 venue. You could maybe squeeze in 250 there. The problem with the Hi-Pointe was Lisa wasn't really booking many shows there anymore. She had kind of lost her touch, so to speak, and many good young indie bands (thinking mainly garage and punk/rock'n'roll here) were going to other venues. She'd given up booking the weeknights to outside booking agents, and they sucked (poor at booking good acts and promoting the shows). Then the weekends weren't all that great either. I'd been going to fewer and fewer shows there over the last several years, so I don't think this is going to leave as big of a void in the local music scene as some are saying. True, I saw hundreds of killer shows there in the late '90s, but not so much after that.
Bands don't always skip over St. Louis. Saying that is showing your ignorance as to what's really happening in town, right under your noses, and I should know... I book shows here all the time.
Oh, and if you'd like to check out what's happening musically in St. Louis, there is a Local Music Scene forum on the new Saint Louis Forums message board at http://www.stlouielouie.com. Check it out. Thanks!
Lemmons
The Way Out Club
Off Broadway
Creepy Crawl
There are a few others, but those are the main ones. Cicero's is also rumored to be wanting to book more punk and rock'n'roll acts and get away from the jam band crap.
Hi-Pointe wasn't a 500-1,000 venue. You could maybe squeeze in 250 there. The problem with the Hi-Pointe was Lisa wasn't really booking many shows there anymore. She had kind of lost her touch, so to speak, and many good young indie bands (thinking mainly garage and punk/rock'n'roll here) were going to other venues. She'd given up booking the weeknights to outside booking agents, and they sucked (poor at booking good acts and promoting the shows). Then the weekends weren't all that great either. I'd been going to fewer and fewer shows there over the last several years, so I don't think this is going to leave as big of a void in the local music scene as some are saying. True, I saw hundreds of killer shows there in the late '90s, but not so much after that.
Bands don't always skip over St. Louis. Saying that is showing your ignorance as to what's really happening in town, right under your noses, and I should know... I book shows here all the time.
Oh, and if you'd like to check out what's happening musically in St. Louis, there is a Local Music Scene forum on the new Saint Louis Forums message board at http://www.stlouielouie.com. Check it out. Thanks!
The Tap Room has been booking bands for years. That's where my friend Jovian met Exene Cervenka and ended up falling in love with her, marrying her, moving to LA to play guitar in her band (The Original Sinners), before moving back to (get this) Jeff City!Jeff707 wrote:Apparently the Tap Room is starting to book bands, too.
Jovian was the drummer in St. Louis surf band The Honkeys at the time, btw.
Anyway, yeah, the Tap Room has some good shows from time to time, but not really the same breed of dirtbag rock'n'roll that the Hi-Pointe used to specialize in.
What I meant was, they are booking more and more "rock" and indie bands. Not as dirty as south grand, but still, moving a little more in that direction. Probably closer to Fred's/Off Broadway than Way Out/Lemmons...
A couple of my friends who were in local bands when they lived here always hated playing at the Hi-Pointe. According to them, the Hi-Pointe treated the bands like crap and weren't organized enough to put on the shows well.
Not agreeing or disagreeing, really, but this problem isn't exactly exclusive to the Hi-Pointe.Jax wrote:A couple of my friends who were in local bands when they lived here always hated playing at the Hi-Pointe. According to them, the Hi-Pointe treated the bands like crap and weren't organized enough to put on the shows well.
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not really important and somewhat nosy, but i saw someone demo-ing the brick wall behind where the downstairs bar was tonight with a sledge.