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PostJun 27, 2016#1

The topic of Monsanto is spread out on multiple threads - too many to merge. Bayer is still pursuing Monsanto and may even move for a hostile takeover. Bayer's new CEO is not backing down...... yet.

This thread is meant to be the catch-all news and opinions pertaining to the potential merger and the effect it could potentially have on St. Louis' plant sciences/agtech pursuits.

PostJun 27, 2016#2

Bayer CEO Takes Risk in Bid for Monsanto
Wall Street Journal
06/27/16


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PostJun 28, 2016#3

Bayer's stock has been taking a pounding during the Brexit sell off.

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PostJun 28, 2016#4

Good IMO, maybe a lot of wishful thinking but maybe Monsanto looks at buying Bayer
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I wish the politicians would embrace corporate tax form and bring US corporate tax structure in line with international standards while the Feds would raise prime interest rate. Maybe, just maybe we could get away from some of the pointless tax deals and the big shareholders wanting to grow and build business models instead of cashing in by M&A and or share buyback/dividends payouts supported by taking on corporate debt. Policy in Washington has been pathetic the last several years from POTUS/Executive on down to Yellen/Feds on down to Congress.

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PostJun 28, 2016#5

Raising interest rates would be a great way to hasten another economic slowdown.

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PostJun 28, 2016#6

Monsanto stock took a big hit as well -- almost as much as Bayer -- and both are regaining today,

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PostJul 14, 2016#7

Let's hope the talks with BASF lead to a deal. This would keep Monsanto independent and a STL based F500 company.

http://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/blog ... eport.html

http://fortune.com/2016/07/13/monsanto- ... ural-unit/
This is interesting:
Monsanto’s board is split over the merit of potential deals with rivals BASF and Bayer with some executives keen to remain independent and others preferring a takeover, Bloomberg reported, citing a source

PostJul 14, 2016#8

Bayer's response to the BASF talks.... Increasing the offer by $3 per share from $122 to $125/share. I still think they need to go higher, but you never know.
They also addressed the regulatory concerns with a $1.5 billion break-up fee, if the deal fails to go through due to antitrust issues.

http://www.stltoday.com/business/local/ ... b0ed3.html

PostAug 23, 2016#9

Looks like talks are heating up. I expect a deal to get done. Seems like Bayer is really focused on getting this deal done. While I hate to see STL lose another F500 company and corp. HQ, let's hope this deal actually solidifies Monsanto's position in the marketplace for decades to come. (Assuming this deal clears regulatory hurdles) I hope this deal leads to growth in STL, like the Nestle deal, versus a deal like the INBEV takeover.

http://www.stltoday.com/business/local/ ... 547e2.html

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PostAug 23, 2016#10

lots of regulatory hurdles....

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PostSep 07, 2016#11

Y'all know that Bayer raised their bid, right?

https://www.yahoo.com/news/germanys-bay ... nance.html

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PostSep 07, 2016#12

^ Reminds me of a recent NPR Marketplace story that European Central Banks are putting so much money into the system to encourage European companies take on much more debt in hopes of stimulating the economy. I wonder if one of the unintended consequences is European companies like Bayer using the cheap debt aboard. Might save a few jobs but not doing the Europeans any good either.

Monsanto shareholders can wait it out until price is just too favorable. The consequence is big cost cutting for all that debt. Unfortunately, I see the outcome more in line with InBev taking over AB than say Nestle takeover of Purina. Monsanto research structure might stay intact but you have to worry about admin jobs

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PostSep 14, 2016#13

Well. Looks like Bayer got it done. A little disappointing.

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PostSep 14, 2016#15

Not sure what the difference is between Seeds and Traits and Crop Science aspects are in terms of what a combined company will do.

It seems like one of the terms that made this deal work from before was the fee aspect in case the merger doesn't get regulatory approval. Especially since that is something that may happen.

Also wasn't there mentions as well depending on various factors, is that portions of a combined company would be spun off?

Its hard to tell what local economic impact this will have, since past history has been all over the map. It seems the more positive ones tended to be where the local staff was better in terms of a particular aspect, which caused the company buying it to keep it in place and even move assets they had previously in.

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PostSep 14, 2016#16

Silver lining, this makes a direct flight to Europe much more attractive now, right?

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PostSep 14, 2016#17

My understanding is that the chemical side, Round-up, etc, will be moved to Germany. Seeds and traits here. While they will still need people in the US, the chemical people should be most concerned. This is assuming Bayer doesn't have to sell off some of its chemical/herbicide biz. Then you have to consider that the buyer Bayer, will utilize more of their ops, marketing, finance, PR, etc. To achieve $1.5 billion in synergies, a lot of overlapping jobs will be lost. Bayer has been vague on how they achieve those synergies, at this early stage. I believe, from what I know, Monsanto has some fat to trim. Let's hope they distribute those synergies throughout the 2 companies and not primarily cuts here. Long way to go!

Good article:

http://www.wsj.com/articles/bayer-monsa ... 1473855922

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PostSep 14, 2016#18

^ Considering the reputation Monsanto has in a number of circles, it might make more sense to use more of the Bayer ops in terms of PR and whatnot.

In terms of some of the fat to trim on the Monsanto side, weren't they starting to do that regardless? Also on synergies it might be that some parts of Bayer that exist now move here, in part taking advantage of the local strengths. Some synergies could be from the non overlapping parts working together on products too in creating new opportunities.

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PostSep 14, 2016#19

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.yahoo. ... ent=safari

Watch the video. Good analysis. Deal will face big pushback from EU.

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PostSep 14, 2016#21

No offense intended, but St. Louisans, in general, can be so insecure.

"Remains to be seen"? Although anything could happen, I trust Bayer will follow through - until they give clues otherwise. I think Monsanto CEO, Hugh Grant, likely promoted and advocated hard for St. Louis.

While St. Louis loses a major independent corporate HQs, it's still potentially good for St. Louis for a number of reasons.

If approved by regulators,

1. St. Louis will be the HQs for Bayer's Seeds and Traits as well as the North American Commercial HQs. STL is not being "thrown under the bus" - so to speak.
2. Bayer cannot renege on St. Louis. There are too many significant assets - researchers, structures, state-of-the-art greenhouses and labs and ag expertise in the region - especially on the Monsanto campuses. They will reassess their St. Louis assets and needs, surely, but Bayer will not leave those valuable assets vulnerable to competitors. They could even ADD to the local infrastructure possibly.
3. While there certainly will be HQs job losses - particularly in management duplications - this creates a big opportunity for spin-offs and new startups. The layoffs could bolster other local firms.
4. With Bayer, St. Louis will be associated with a HUGE global conglomerate - bigger than Monsanto.
5. Bayer could (I emphasize......could), bring/consolidate other work in St. Louis similar to what AB InBev did.
6. The Bayer name and presence alone could help lure new firms - particularly biotech and plant science - to St. Louis.
7. St. Louis will potentially lose the Monsanto name and potentially the stigma associated with the name. Bayer doesn't have a stigma.
8. With Pfizer planning a campus in Chesterfield and Bayer's new presence, I think it bolds WELL for more pharma activity and jobs in St. Louis.
9. Overall, the residual impacts are potentially positive for St. Louis - despite the loss of the independent corporate HQs.

A "gobble up" was inevitable after Monsanto failed to make a complimentary acquisition and I think analysts helped to drive this merger because of industry consolidation. Monsanto was left dangling out in the big corporate ag community because of industry consolidations. It tried to grow by going after Syngenta and others - including Bayer Crop Science. It just couldn't get other firms to agree to acquisition - and it could've been due to Monsanto's international stigma and reputation. With consolidation in the industry, Bayer and Monsanto were among the largest left. And guess what? Bayer is a behemoth (and richer) moreso than Monsanto, which allowed it to swallow Monsanto with a cash offering.

Be prepared for all of the silly talk and lamenting about St. Louis' "declining" economy and its tragic "loss of another corporate HQs". :|

Although St. Louis' "economic prowess" has diminished on a national level as its economy has faced challenges in recent years - particularly as other faster-growing and competitor markets have surged - St. Louis' economy (GDP) is still growing as is its startup and venture capital communities. In regards to the local economy, the "seeds" have been planted and are being nurtured.

The acquisition of Monsanto is simply more evidence that St. Louis' economy is transitioning into the global economy, which in many ways is good. In upcoming years, don't be surprised if you hear more people speaking the German language around St. Louis as well as living in the area.

Nonetheless, St. Louis will be okay. And it still has more F1000 per capita than its peers.

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PostSep 14, 2016#22

More on this potentially being good for STL, specifically for start ups

http://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/blog ... j=75783052

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PostSep 14, 2016#23

arch city wrote:No offense intended, but St. Louisans, in general, can be so insecure.

"Remains to be seen"? Although anything could happen, I trust Bayer will follow through - until they give clues otherwise. I think Monsanto CEO, Hugh Grant, likely promoted and advocated hard for St. Louis.

While St. Louis loses a major independent corporate HQs, it's still potentially good for St. Louis for a number of reasons.
And as I understand it, Monsanto's digital/tech offering was one of its major selling points for Bayer. It could be a major source of investment here.

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PostSep 14, 2016#24

arch city wrote:No offense intended, but St. Louisans, in general, can be so insecure.
The scoreboard almost entirely favors HQs and jobs leaving St. Louis. Let's talk after a St. Louis firm takes over another company and moves stuff to here. What was the last time St. Louis had a positive? Enterprise buying National /Alamo like a decade ago?

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PostSep 15, 2016#25

^Plenty of much bigger acquisitions by St. Louis companies since then, but yeah, this is terrible news for St. Louis and its corporate culture - yet again.

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