Sorry to see it go and that's too busy an intersection to be vacant.
I work downtown and walked by this place dozens/hundreds of times, and for whatever reason, never felt compelled to try it. It didn't look like a place I'd want to step into. I was stark and sterile but not like a trendy, minimalist restaurant. (I like the orange walls) It looked like a cafe in an airport or in front of a Target or something. It had contemporary touches but not enough, it still felt--cold?
Also, they never got a real sign. I think there name was printed on posterboard or something. There was always 8.5 x 11 paper taped to the window. Looks like it should have read 'Wet Paint' but I guess it was their menu. To me, iI looked like the place was never really completed.
I kept walking by waiting for it to be done. I guess they are now.
Thoughts? Any one else DT try it or have impressions? I think it could be valuable feedback and insights for business owners.
I ate there a few times and thought it was quite good. It was always busy too. They had a very prominent smoking section that probably turned a lot of people off.
I thought it was good. The workers were pleasant almost to a fault. Fair food, quick, and very reasonable.
I can't imagine walking past for five years, watching people eat inside, and thinking it wasn't finished and open for business.
As far as the smoking section...it was kind of funny seeing the same old ladies back there every time. That said, I never once got a whiff of smoke. It must have been ventilated very well.
Never made it in there myself. They weren't open weekends, and generally I'm gone during the week. Even when I'm home, I have too many favorites nearby. They weren't even open evenings, were they?
As for why it closed, she [Joanne Teutenberg] wrote: "We believe that the downtown climate has recently been tough on restaurants. With the coming of Schnucks (which opened the Culinaria last year), the economic troubles and the advent of the smoking ban, we felt the restaurant's location was no longer viable."
Was one of the few places downtown where you could eat for about 5 bucks, staff was very friendly, the smoking thing kind of bugged me, but they were proud of thier smoking section.
As for why it closed, she [Joanne Teutenberg] wrote: "We believe that the downtown climate has recently been tough on restaurants. With the coming of Schnucks (which opened the Culinaria last year), the economic troubles and the advent of the smoking ban, we felt the restaurant's location was no longer viable."
At least it isn't all Culinaria's fault!
Joanne Teutenberg is Kleancut?
Given who her dad is, you know she had to blame the smoking ban.
bprop wrote:I thought it was good. The workers were pleasant almost to a fault. Fair food, quick, and very reasonable.
I can't imagine walking past for five years, watching people eat inside, and thinking it wasn't finished and open for business.
As far as the smoking section...it was kind of funny seeing the same old ladies back there every time. That said, I never once got a whiff of smoke. It must have been ventilated very well.
Funny. I've been there a few times and always thought the food and the service were poor. Not really expensive, but still not a value for the price. Lunch tasted like reheated frozen food. I heard breakfast was better, but it's really hard to screw up breakfast. Unless you're a persecuted smoker, I can't imagine why anyone would choose Teuntenbergs when the Edible Difference and other options are just around the corner.
Yea I had been there a couple time but nothing too impressive. For some reason, St. Louis continues to make excuses as to why their downtown is suffering (economy, schnucks, etc) when no action is taken. Its ridiculous that a restaurant like this couldn't make it in a downtown busy spot in St. Louis. Just another example of St. Louis getting left behind...when cities like KC, Indy, and Chicago continue to strive and grow in their downtown and economy.
jounderw wrote:Yea I had been there a couple time but nothing too impressive. For some reason, St. Louis continues to make excuses as to why their downtown is suffering (economy, schnucks, etc) when no action is taken. Its ridiculous that a restaurant like this couldn't make it in a downtown busy spot in St. Louis. Just another example of St. Louis getting left behind...when cities like KC, Indy, and Chicago continue to strive and grow in their downtown and economy.
1) It was a resurrected form of a chain that had already closed.
2) You weren't impressed by it.
3) "It's ridiculous that a restaurant like this couldn't make it..." Huh?
jounderw wrote:
Yea I had been there a couple time but nothing too impressive. For some reason, St. Louis continues to make excuses as to why their downtown is suffering (economy, schnucks, etc) when no action is taken. Its ridiculous that a restaurant like this couldn't make it in a downtown busy spot in St. Louis. Just another example of St. Louis getting left behind...when cities like KC, Indy, and Chicago continue to strive and grow in their downtown and economy.
KC's downtown (outside of the "disneyfied" fabricated P&L mall IS DEAD and barely has any place worthy of eating. Are you frickin kidding me?
INDY, is seriously having economic downtown issues as almost all cities.
Chicago - compaing STL to Chi-town - come on...seriously?
Downtown STL has sooooo many more restaurants and movement than the two first cities. In addition, Downtown St. Louis looks pretty damn good right now IMO.
Your post sounds pretty much like troll baiting here and we kindly ask you to move on. Using words like "their" refering to St. Louis - obviously means you don't come from these parts.