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Street Trees

Street Trees

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PostAug 20, 2014#1

I work in Midtown and some of the square holes in the sidewalk don't have trees like the other holes do. I want to know how to go about getting some trees in there. Who do I talk to about getting permission? I have other ideas to improve the area, too.

1) Locust Street could use more public art like The Grove, i.e. murals on buildings and fire hydrants. I also thought some other things might be cool like painting Ninja Turtles on sewer lids, cool crosswalks like the ones they had during Pride, or getting something like this out there:



http://www.ar15.com/archive/topic.html? ... &t=1088252

2) In Seattle, I remember them replacing the meters on a street with bike lanes, and business increased by about 70% along the corridor. Might we be able to do this in Midtown somewhere? Or anywhere in St. Louis?

This idea would require a lot more money and a building owner's permission, but something like this would really draw people:



...Especially if it actually played some music.

What are some cool things you have seen in other cities like these? I'm thinking a lot of small things, particularly art-related, mostly. These are good ways to really make the St. Louis experience more interesting and memorable. I especially think Olive, Locust, and Washington in Midtown could really use some spicing up.

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PostAug 20, 2014#2

The missing trees is a problem throughout the city... I've seen multiple people fall in the left-behind hole near Bobby's Place on Wash Ave. But to answer your question, I spoke with the Partnership and the Streets Dept who explained that the Arch grounds improvements will require removing ~300 trees. Those trees must be replaced, and the plan was to start by filling all the "holes" around the city.

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PostAug 23, 2014#3

Gateway City wrote:I work in Midtown and some of the square holes in the sidewalk don't have trees like the other holes do. I want to know how to go about getting some trees in there. Who do I talk to about getting permission?
Do you know who the alderman is for that particular area? Sometimes the alderman will have money set aside to pay for street trees on a first-come first-serve basis, you just have to contact the Forestry Department. I know that's how it works in the 17th ward anyway.

The harder part is getting someone to actually take care of the trees. Forestry will put them in but they won't come by to water them during drought or excessive heat, and young trees are especially vulnerable. Maybe the local businesses or a community group could commit to maintaining the trees while they are young?

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PostAug 23, 2014#4

^ I think getting the bus assn. and alderperson involved is key. Also, does anyone know if the city's street tree program is open to landlords or is it just available to homeowners?

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PostAug 24, 2014#5

rbeedee wrote:
Gateway City wrote:I work in Midtown and some of the square holes in the sidewalk don't have trees like the other holes do. I want to know how to go about getting some trees in there. Who do I talk to about getting permission?
Do you know who the alderman is for that particular area? Sometimes the alderman will have money set aside to pay for street trees on a first-come first-serve basis, you just have to contact the Forestry Department. I know that's how it works in the 17th ward anyway.

The harder part is getting someone to actually take care of the trees. Forestry will put them in but they won't come by to water them during drought or excessive heat, and young trees are especially vulnerable. Maybe the local businesses or a community group could commit to maintaining the trees while they are young?
Have they changed the minds/learned their lessons and stopped with the stupid Bradford Pear trees? Yes, they grow fast and are cheap: but a 30mph wind can take limbs off or the whole tree down.

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PostAug 24, 2014#6

Gateway City wrote: What are some cool things you have seen in other cities like these? I'm thinking a lot of small things, particularly art-related, mostly. These are good ways to really make the St. Louis experience more interesting and memorable. I especially think Olive, Locust, and Washington in Midtown could really use some spicing up.
Maybe the Civil Courts building could be the canvas for 3D projection mapping viewed from CityGarden. Or the OPO viewed from OPO Plaza.

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PostAug 25, 2014#7

dweebe wrote:Have they changed the minds/learned their lessons and stopped with the stupid Bradford Pear trees? Yes, they grow fast and are cheap: but a 30mph wind can take limbs off or the whole tree down.
According to their most recent document, they still offer Bradford (aka Callery) Pears. For those looking for yet another reason to avoid them, they are also considered invasive in Missouri.

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PostAug 26, 2014#8

rbeedee wrote:
dweebe wrote:Have they changed the minds/learned their lessons and stopped with the stupid Bradford Pear trees? Yes, they grow fast and are cheap: but a 30mph wind can take limbs off or the whole tree down.
According to their most recent document, they still offer Bradford (aka Callery) Pears. For those looking for yet another reason to avoid them, they are also considered invasive in Missouri.
Bradford pear trees are about as fragile as Sam Bradford.

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PostAug 26, 2014#9

I like the 3-D idea on the civil courts building. Or what about the side of the silos next to IKEA? That could be incredible.
Also, what happened to huge murals downtown or elsewhere on the blank sides of buildings? There are so many options for this. Anyone remember the image of Lindbergh downtown?
Also, what about following in hotel Ignacio's lead and bring back the rooftop neon signs? Why did the fox theater take theirs down instead of restoring it?! :evil:

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PostSep 16, 2014#10

They did a 3-D show to promote a new Marvel thing in London:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/picture ... me=3038555

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PostOct 13, 2014#11

Just a quick compare:

Some houses in Dutchtown


Some similar houses in Lincoln Park


One of these looks like a nice place to live, one looks desolate and scary. One street is also way hotter to walk down in July and August. People, if you don't have trees in your front yard or in the sidewalk strip in front of your house, get on it and plant some!

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PostOct 13, 2014#12

dweebe wrote:Bradford pear trees are about as fragile as Sam Bradford.
:lol:

Yes, planting the former on your lawn is as bad of an idea as a football team pinning its hopes on and planning its offense around the latter.

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PostOct 13, 2014#13

I definitely hear what you're saying onecity but I still think the Dutchtown pic looks pretty cool and a decent place to live. That second house from the left always gets me. Also, it looks like there's way less room for trees on that sidewalk, right? Or might just be the angle.

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PostOct 13, 2014#14

The Dutchtown pic looks like four brick spaceships landed on a pad of grass. There is zero attempt to complete the street with trees, landscaping, fencing, etc. The buildings might as well be soviet concrete boxes for all the care that's gone into how they are presented. If the Lincoln Park pic has a curb appeal of 10, the Dutchtown pic has a curb appeal of maybe 3. And the difference is all landscaping. Without it, the street becomes so harsh.

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PostOct 13, 2014#15



Dutchtown, ten minutes later with step & repeat trees and bushes.

I constantly drive around, Photoshopping this city in my mind.

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PostOct 13, 2014#16

Property owners need to request a street tree be planted. So many blocks would look so much better if they had them. They're free just ask and get on the list. The hard part is getting someone to ask.

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PostOct 13, 2014#17

^ Yup. And the sad thing is the lack of street trees on that Dutchtown block is leaving hundreds of dollars worth of private and public value off the table.... multiply that throughout the city where more trees can be planted and that really adds up. As a TGS resident, I've been having the thought of a competition among the 4 Tower Grove neighborhoods to see which can plant the most street trees.

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PostOct 13, 2014#18

true!
It's hard when you have rental units/absentee landlords. Not sure, but I don't think the city offer free trees on residential properties owned by a business, i.e. four-family flats owned by Garcia.

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PostOct 13, 2014#19

Image

Dutchtown, ten minutes later with step & repeat trees and bushes.
Nice. Now just add some ground-level landscaping - rain gardens, etc, in place of the grass - and teach people that brick can in actuality be complimented by paint colors that are not white or green, and you have a really nice looking block.

PostOct 14, 2014#20

Landscaping, fences between buildings, street trees, COLORFUL PAINT THAT ISN'T WHITE ON BRICK.



and....before.


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PostOct 14, 2014#21

Show off!!!!!! :-D

General 'feeling-a-bit-defensive' note:
My Photoshop effort (sans a few added bushes) was showing what the City Forestry Dept could do to enhance a street if asked (and not requiring $$$ of investment on the property owners behalf. I mean, this is Dutchtown we're talking about!)


All the same, onecity—well done! I like that block!

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PostOct 14, 2014#22

Dutchtown could be really nice. A premier nabe with some effort. Meramec is a great street with soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo much potential and Chippewa too. Imagine knocking out the apt complex @ old Maryville site and replacing it with a college again. Dtown could kick ass.

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PostOct 14, 2014#23

Yes, it could be nice. I like that area (man, I miss Schaeffer's) What I meant by 'this is Dutchtown we're talking about' was in reference to the population. Really, the residents don't need the Forestry Dept. to plant trees to do what we're talking about. Discretionary spending is virtual absent in that neighborhood. Heck, I bet a good percentage are on Ameren's Dollar Help. Who's gonna spring for mulch? Unfortunately, the place is too economically depressed.

That said, I would really like to see the City focus some redevelopment efforts along Jefferson. That's potentially one beautiful street. Some action along there (by the MotoMart/Chippewa/Broadway) could have dramatic ripple affects throughout the area.

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PostOct 15, 2014#24

Who's gonna spring for mulch?
For those who don't know, mulch is free to city residents (County residents, that's not you!).

City residents get it for free thanks to our awesome yard waste dumpster program.

Sadly, often, it's County residents showing up at city recycle centers, grabbing free mulch, then driving around and selling it to clueless homeowners.

Reminds me of the time a County resident took issue with city residents debating planning priorities for city parks.

Yeah, this is one weird region we have, folks. Real weird.

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PostOct 15, 2014#25

I don't think anyone has mentioned that you can contact Forestry and suggest tree placement for your neighbors' (or conceivably anyone's) empty tree lawn. I did that last fall and they planted one next door over the winter. My neighbor was excited but wasn't going to take care of it because "it's the city's problem." So I water it during dry spells.

Between the hack pruning jobs, mulch volcanoes (where the city actually mulches), and resident indifference it's a wonder half the trees survive. Not to mention the guy I saw chopping down a ~15 year old maple with a hatchet a few weeks ago in broad daylight...

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