^ right-click and save, or do a screen grab.
The clear roof concept was something I had expected to be part of the Dome renovations proposals that never seemed to come up.
Is that not possible with the Dome architecture? I thought I remember someone posting construction photos of the Dome with the roof
panels not installed yet. Seems like those could have been swapped out with clear panels.
Is that not possible with the Dome architecture? I thought I remember someone posting construction photos of the Dome with the roof
panels not installed yet. Seems like those could have been swapped out with clear panels.
I guess the Vikings are hoping that the steep slant of the roof will prevent snow buildup? Because what I want in a place that sometime gets really big snows is a huge glass roof.
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See photo in this post:jakektu wrote:The clear roof concept was something I had expected to be part of the Dome renovations proposals that never seemed to come up.
Is that not possible with the Dome architecture? I thought I remember someone posting construction photos of the Dome with the roof
panels not installed yet. Seems like those could have been swapped out with clear panels.
http://nextstl.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=188996#p188996
^Thanks
Any reason the dome couldn't have clear panels?
Or an opening in the middle of the roof Dallas style?
Why weren't these part of the proposals by the convention team?
Any reason the dome couldn't have clear panels?
Or an opening in the middle of the roof Dallas style?
Why weren't these part of the proposals by the convention team?
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It hard to imagine Kroenke even going with a huge dome overhaul while a number of cities are getting football palaces. I say we proposed a 1% sales tax and use the $8B to build the greatest football stadium anyone will ever see. It would do a lot less harm that building more highways.
St. Louis doesn't need a football palace. Busch Stadium is one of the least expensive new ballparks around and the Best Fans in Baseball are just fine with it.Alex Ihnen wrote:It hard to imagine Kroenke even going with a huge dome overhaul while a number of cities are getting football palaces. I say we proposed a 1% sales tax and use the $8B to build the greatest football stadium anyone will ever see. It would do a lot less harm that building more highways.
We don't need a football palace if it looks like the beige brick and blue glass temple to mediocrity that is shown higher up the thread. Personally I could care less about f-ball. BUT, if we could have a piece of ***** awesome Architecture like the new Vikings stadium, that is a completely different matter.
I'm not sure about the clear panels, but I believe the stated reason that an opening in the roof was not feasible, was that the Dome was not designed to handle storm water.jakektu wrote:^Thanks
Any reason the dome couldn't have clear panels?
Or an opening in the middle of the roof Dallas style?
Why weren't these part of the proposals by the convention team?
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The Rams would essentially want to build a stadium with tiny family rooms around each seat in the stadium, each with their own TVs, like the Clarkson Jeweler section of the dome now. But for $8 Billion we could just purchase everyone's current family rooms in the metro area and let them watch the game from the comfort of their homes on TV. But the Rams would have to wand you, or course, on the way into your home to ensure you will buy their $9 beers and not sneak in your own beer. For security.Alex Ihnen wrote:It hard to imagine Kroenke even going with a huge dome overhaul while a number of cities are getting football palaces. I say we proposed a 1% sales tax and use the $8B to build the greatest football stadium anyone will ever see. It would do a lot less harm that building more highways.
The Atlanta Falcons continue to more forward.
http://abcnews.go.com/Sports/wireStory/ ... ZulgLXql4I
http://abcnews.go.com/Sports/wireStory/ ... ZulgLXql4I
NFL owners approved a $200 million loan Tuesday for the Atlanta Falcons to build a new stadium.
The multipurpose stadium could cost as much as $1 billion, with team owner Arthur Blank committed to funding most of it.
Blank, speaking at the NFL's spring meetings, called the decision by the team owners an "important milestone" in moving the project forward.
"The NFL has supported new stadium construction through various means for decades," he said. "Our club owners understand that investments ... are important to the long-term strength of the league, and we thank them for their support."
The stadium also will be built with $200 million from public bonds.
Blank said the design and construction of the Falcons' new home will take place over the next four years and the team plans to open the 2017 season there. The Georgia Dome, which opened in 1992, will be demolished when the new stadium opens.
Later Tuesday, owners will vote on the sites of the 50th and 51st Super Bowls. The San Francisco Bay Area and Florida are bidding for the 2016 game. The loser for that game will face Houston for the righto hold the 2017 Super Bowl.
Do these new venues provide a huge boost to income or are they mostly bragging rights for the owners?
The Rams continue to make unprecedented moves investing in the local St. Louis community, this time by opening the NFL's first-of-its-kind youth athletic training facility in Chesterfield.
http://www.stlamerican.com/sports/local ... f887a.html
By itself, this might not mean much, but when viewed in light of other actions taken by the organization over the past few years (mostly going back to when Kroenke assumed majority-ownership of the team), it seems more and more clear that the franchise is most interested in growing its brand and prospering in the St. Louis region.
If there's some big grand secret plan for them to cut-and-run to Los Angeles or anywhere else, I just don't see it.
http://www.stlamerican.com/sports/local ... f887a.html
By itself, this might not mean much, but when viewed in light of other actions taken by the organization over the past few years (mostly going back to when Kroenke assumed majority-ownership of the team), it seems more and more clear that the franchise is most interested in growing its brand and prospering in the St. Louis region.
If there's some big grand secret plan for them to cut-and-run to Los Angeles or anywhere else, I just don't see it.
Good for Chesterfield. While I agree with your assessment, it's sad that this (or something similar) couldn't have been built in an area with many more disadvantaged youths that could potentially benefit.
Agreed. Especially when you consider their administrative offices at Rams Park are located in Earth City, which is practically on North County's doorstep.ealfotd wrote:Good for Chesterfield. While I agree with your assessment, it's sad that this (or something similar) couldn't have been built in an area with many more disadvantaged youths that could potentially benefit.
^^Maybe if the Chesterfield one gets a lot of participation, they may be easily swayed to open one in our more disadvantaged areas.
This is the new proposal for the Atlanta Falcons' stadium.
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http://ftw.usatoday.com/2013/06/the-pla ... -approved/
http://ftw.usatoday.com/2013/06/the-pla ... -approved/
Team officials and the architecture firm presented design plans to the Georgia World Congress Center Authority on Monday, and the plans were approved. Approved.
The Falcons still need to find the land to build the stadium on and there are a million other hoops to jump through, but having the plans approved by the Georgia World Congress Center Authority–the organization that oversees the downtown Atlanta convention center and stadiums–is a promising step forward.
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^ We're still going to go with faux-brick panels here though, right? OK, good.
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Could you just imagine that at the Bottleworks site? Holy cow would anything even close to that look great downtown.
Between the the Vikings and the Falcons new places, it looks like the new trend for football stadiums could be very different designs.chaifetz10 wrote:Could you just imagine that at the Bottleworks site? Holy cow would anything even close to that look great downtown.
It would be exciting to see a new Rams stadium design that challenges current convention and becomes a St. Louis icon. Then again: how much more does something like that cost and are we all willing to "chip in"?
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It will cost a ton and the public will not pay for it. I think we are much better off, building like the Cardinals did. Let the franchise build it and we as taxpayers, will pay for the infrastructure improvements around the facility. I support that model, so the Rams own the venue and have NO incentive to bolt, when the lease is up or the stadium is outdated. That is the type of lease, that got us into this mess in the first place. If the Rams owned the Dome, instead of leasing, we would not be dealing with a possible move. How arrogant and dumb, the CVC negotiators were. I know it has been a long time, but I still can't believe they agreed to that. They thought the Dome would be a top-notch venue for the entire lease. Just dumb!
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^ We paid for Busch Stadium. The city gave back hundreds of millions of dollars in ticket tax revenue. The Cardinals stadium was not privately funded/financed in any commonsense interpretation.
I have a strong feeling it will be via avenues such as this that the new Rams' stadium will be financed. No hassling worry of a public vote. Like you said, it's good for hundreds of millions of dollars, so if they follow what ATL, Minnesota, Santa Clara, et. al., are doing, Stan Kroenke/the Rams will foot 6-800 mil, and the city will throw in a couple hundred mil in the same way. Stan Kroenke has built his entire multi-billion dollar empire, exceeding the wealth of other NFL owners, by navigating the real estate market for tax incentives and public funds. He is an expert, and several important MO politicians are deep in his pockets.Alex Ihnen wrote:^ We paid for Busch Stadium. The city gave back hundreds of millions of dollars in ticket tax revenue. The Cardinals stadium was not privately funded/financed in any commonsense interpretation.
I only wonder when.
So anyone want to venture a guess on when Stan K's Rams is going to actually present a proposal for their new stadium?
Yeah, like I just said, "when" is definitely the big question.dredger wrote:So anyone want to venture a guess on when Stan K's Rams is going to actually present a proposal for their new stadium?
The truth is right now the Rams don't have much incentive to do anything but squat in the dome. They only pay a few hundred thou a year in rent, and keep all the money generated from gameday usage. There is a lot of speculation, fueled mostly by nonspecific reports by people like Bernie Miklasz and Jim Thomas, that there is discussion going on behind the scenes. But nothing is probably going to be made official for a couple years because of the delicate nature of everything.