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PostApr 24, 2008#551

From the Post-Dispatch today:


Lambert carousels to get makeover

By Ken Leiser

ST. LOUIS POST-DISPATCH

Thursday, Apr. 24 2008



ST. LOUIS — Passengers were crowding around the M6 baggage carousel Saturday afternoon on the lower level of Lambert-St. Louis International Airport when it did what the carousels often do.



It jammed.



But this time, Scott Somerville of Park Hills, Mo., fixed it himself. Somerville, who was there to pick up his father, Edward, jumped onto the carousel and unclogged the chute. As the gathered travelers applauded, the carousel resumed spitting out luggage.



Despite stepped-up maintenance of the six carousels at the Main Terminal, minor luggage logjams like Saturday's remain a problem. There are also occasional more-serious breakdowns and resulting long waits that leave travelers grumbling.



Lambert officials believe they have a fix — a plan to replace the beat-up, circa 1970 carousels and the rest of the inbound baggage-handling system. The $5 million job is expected to begin by the end of the year.



It's one of the first projects on deck for the $105 million overhaul of the airport's Main Terminal — along with clarifying the confusing signage leading to the terminal and brightening the ceiling above the main ticket counters.



"Baggage is always one of the biggest concerns of the passengers," said Lambert Director Richard Hrabko. "When they get off a flight, they want to have their baggage there and they want to have it there on time."



While airport officials don't have designs in hand yet, the new carousels and systems are not expected to extend from floor to the ceiling — as the current carousels do. And they should be more reliable, Hrabko said, in much the same way a new car is more reliable than one that's 30 years old.



The six Main Terminal carousels will be replaced one at a time, and all will be in service during the holidays.



Two claim systems for oversized luggage also will be swapped out.



The new delivery system will allow two airline baggage tugs (the vehicles that move luggage from a plane to the terminal) to simultaneously unload luggage onto the conveyors leading to the carousels. Now, only one can operate at a time.



Proposals are due May 2 from the three firms vying for the contract to design and build the new systems, Hrabko said.



Lambert took over maintenance of the baggage equipment only two years ago, although airlines remain responsible for unloading the luggage and getting it to passengers.



"We recognize the maintenance issues, and we've beefed up our maintenance system, and the reliability has gotten better," Hrabko said. "But we're still dealing with very old and antiquated equipment, basically."



The carousels and baggage-handling equipment were built in the early 1970s.



Bags can get jammed or snagged where the conveyor belts make turns between the loading areas and the carousels. The new system should solve the problem, said Lambert spokesman Jeff Lea.



Mary Schuermann, of south St. Louis County, who was at Lambert Saturday waiting for her bags from a Delta flight from Salt Lake City, said she has had to wait for extended periods at Lambert baggage carousels — especially after crowded flights.



"Baggage claims are never fun when you come to any city because it's just like a big rush to (see) who's going to get to your baggage first and if it's going to be there," she said. "Or if you're only going to get part of it."



Her wait Saturday was only a matter of minutes.



Scott Somerville, who earned applause by unclogging one of the luggage chutes last weekend, said he was a little embarrassed by all the attention. He didn't know people were watching when he scaled the carousel — not once, but twice — to remove the bags that were stuck there.



"After it got to six bags, I decided that I'd just jump up and get it," he said.



Nationally, there were about 7.03 reports of luggage being lost, damaged, delayed or pilfered last year for every 1,000 passengers who flew on major domestic airlines, according to the Air Travel Consumer Report published by the U.S. Department of Transportation. That was the worst year for mishandled bags since 1989.



For air travelers, that trend is breaking in the wrong direction, said Scott T. Mueller, former system manager for baggage services at Midwest Airlines and author of "The Empty Carousel: A Consumer's Guide to Checked and Carry-on Luggage."



The baggage-handling systems are part of the cause. The others are the volume of people traveling, airline staff cuts and luggage theft.



"The majority of the airports out there, the systems are old," Mueller said. "They're not able to keep up processing the number of bags through their carousels today."



Hrabko said the airport recognized the importance of baggage delivery to passengers. That's why leaders have moved up the timing of the carousel project among the planned improvements that sprouted from the Lambert Experience Project.



Work on roadway signs and ceiling above the central ticketing area are other examples.



Apple Designs Inc. of Raleigh, N.C., is devising a plan to revamp the signs between Interstate 70 and the airport. The project is expected to cost $1.5 million.



The airport also is spending $2.5 million to resurface the ceiling and replace the lighting systems above the main ticket area. That work should begin by late summer.



kleiser@post-dispatch.com | 314-340-8215


URL: http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/news/s ... enDocument

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PostApr 24, 2008#552

As of 8/23, Southwest will discontinue STL-LAX service. That should be pleasant news for AA.

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Billkn wrote:As of 8/23, Southwest will discontinue STL-LAX service. That should be pleasant news for AA.


Whats the reason behind this? Poor passenger loads for SWA flights to LAX?



I still would like to see ONT and SJC flights added to STL. However, with current issues going on with the airline industry I don't see it happening. :?

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Billkn wrote:As of 8/23, Southwest will discontinue STL-LAX service. That should be pleasant news for AA.


Whats the reason behind this? Poor passenger loads for SWA flights to LAX?



I still would like to see ONT and SJC flights added to STL. However, with current issues going on with the airline industry I don't see it happening. :?


They're eliminating all long(er) haul routes. Even with a dramatic change in oil prices, ONT or SJC wouldn't happen.

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PostApr 26, 2008#555

Walking Paths Open to Waiting Passengers at Lambert-St. Louis International Airport

Created: 4/16/2008 2:17:45 PM

Last updated: 4/16/2008 2:18:47 PM




(KSDK) -- If you're waiting to fly out of Lambert-St. Louis International Airport, you can do more than just sit and wait.



Airport officials unveiled new walking paths for passengers during a news conference Wednesday morning.





article/report: http://www.ksdk.com/news/news_article.a ... yid=144358

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PostApr 28, 2008#556

matguy70 wrote:Walking Paths Open to Waiting Passengers at Lambert-St. Louis International Airport

Created: 4/16/2008 2:17:45 PM

Last updated: 4/16/2008 2:18:47 PM




(KSDK) -- If you're waiting to fly out of Lambert-St. Louis International Airport, you can do more than just sit and wait.



Airport officials unveiled new walking paths for passengers during a news conference Wednesday morning.





article/report: http://www.ksdk.com/news/news_article.a ... yid=144358


This is a pretty good idea. If I'm early for a flight, I'll often go do a lap through the D concourse to get my legs moving before I spend a bunch of time in cattle class.



I wandered down there on Saturday and noticed the signs down there that point out the half-mile turnbacks and such. Also, while I was in there, I snapped this:







I can concede that it's pretty pointless to sell advertising in D because the only reason to venture down there is to take a walk or to find a clean restroom.



But can we take down the occasional 8 year old ad that's in there? It's just a touch embarrassing :) At least they're not paying to light the thing up anymore.

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I don't know, I would rather have the sign than a blank / empty advertising case. anyways, I didn't even read the "2000" statement on there until you pointed it out - as well as many companies use "accolades" on their signs from many years bygone.

PostMay 02, 2008#558

Great Lakes Aviation, Ltd. has announced they will begin daily flights from Cape Girardeau to thier hub at Lambert / St. Louis International Airport on May 19, 2008.



On February 1, 2008, Great Lakes Airlines was awarded the Essential Air Service contract for Cape Girardeau, Missouri; Jackson, Tennessee; and Owensboro, Kentucky due to the incumbent carrier ceasing operations the month prior, leaving these communities without air service.



Great Lakes continues to work on securing additional aircraft needed to restore service to the respective communities.



“We are able to source from existing aircraft time in our fleet to begin this long-awaited return of service to Cape Girardeau,” commented Chuck Howell, CEO of Great Lakes Airlines. “Albeit limited service in the beginning, we are pleased we can re-establish service into Cape Girardeau, MO, on May 19, with the other two communities to follow in the near future. A definitive timeline has not been set.”



“We are certainly thrilled that we are able to bring scheduled air service back to Cape Girardeau,” Airport Manager, Bruce Loy, noted. “Once Great Lakes finalizes acquisition of their new aircraft in the near future, we will add the third round-trip and restore our three daily round-trip service to St. Louis.”



Following is the Cape Girardeau flight schedule effective May 19, 2008

Cape Girardeau to St. Louis

Flight 5222 Departs 8:30a Arrives 9:18a Operates Daily

Flight 5224 Departs 6:15p Arrives 7:03p Operates Daily



St. Louis to Cape Girardeau:

Flight 5223 Departs 7:30a Arrives 8:20a Operates Daily

Flight 5225 Departs 5:15p Arrives 6:05p Operates Daily

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PostMay 05, 2008#559

Since when did SWA decide to stop going from STL to LAX? UGH, every flight I have ever been on at this airport is slowly dissolving. How did you hear about this?



Also, I would like to get flights to HI, ME, Reno, and Portland eventually. Who would be the best one to contact about this? And please don't reply saying "American Airlines." God I miss TWA

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PostMay 05, 2008#560

OK - a little dramatic there my friend.



STL is doing fine with non-stop / direct flights to most markets.



SWA has NOT stopped service to LAX.

I am on SWA website right now and non-stop service is offered 1 or 2 times from STL daily. I tried several dates throughout the year and all retian nonstop flights - in addition there are many direct flights - no connections with just 1 or 2 stops. With SWA it just depends on day and times.

AA offers 7 nonstop flights daily to LAX from STL, in addition to many connection flights.



Maine and Reno are not big markets that are in demand. Not saying they are not nice places. But very limited in air service. You can always email your carrier and let them know of your interest... does it do any good - maybe a tiny bit - who knows.



As for American Airlines, love em or hate em, they still utilize STL as their 3rd largest hub and they offer most nonstop service out of the city.



By the way, I just booked a flight from Reno to STL for a friends daughter and it was on SWA with direct service - no connection and just one stop.



Good luck! :wink:

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PostMay 05, 2008#561

when are Lambert's improvements supposed to commence? The fancy renderings that were released last year.

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PostMay 05, 2008#562

Southwest's STL-LAX nonstops definitely end after 8/23.



American is also dropping mainline service from Raleigh-Durham and San Antonio effective this fall.

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PostMay 05, 2008#563

Cancellings, Non-Stop Schedules, et.al.


This is just a general reminder that the price of oil is at absolutely ridiculous levels right now. Combined with economic unease and geopolitical instabilities, the price of a barrel today went over $120. And as tough as it is for our cars, Jet Fuel is a lot more. Airlines dropping flights and not expanding markets are due to this more than the state of Lambert.



Also, remember that all Jet Fuel for planes in and out of Lambert come from the Wood River Refinery, soon to be connected to that new Canadian pipeline system. This will ensure a more ample and stable supply of heavy flows of crude, convertible to Jet Fuel locally, furthering the value Lambert brings to the consolidating airlines.

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PostMay 05, 2008#564

Oh absolutely!



This is not a Lambert International thing at all. It's an overall cuts everywhere. In fact, Lambert is fairing pretty well.



Continental cuts 5% of it's overall domestic flights today due to fuel:

http://www.nj.com/business/ledger/index ... xml&coll=1





American continues to cut flights everywherebecause of fuel (today's news):

http://www.twincities.com/ci_9058639



US Airways may cut Las Vegas Hub in addition to many flights (Today's News):

http://www.usatoday.com/travel/flights/ ... 78324.blog





Just Google "Flight Cuts" and hit News for today's headlines... it is a sad time for any transportation entity.

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PostMay 05, 2008#565

Billkn wrote:Southwest's STL-LAX nonstops definitely end after 8/23.



American is also dropping mainline service from Raleigh-Durham and San Antonio effective this fall.


When did they a non-stop to begin with? I fly that route once a year and I've never seen a non-stop. I always get routed through Phoenix.



So what's the deal with the renovations too? Last I heard they had this spiffy new redesign, but haven't heard a thing since. Maybe they're waiting for the garage to be finished? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :roll:

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PostMay 06, 2008#566

Good one, except the garage is finished.

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MattnSTL wrote:Good one, except the garage is finished.


Coulda fooled me the last time I was there! Still had those white barricades up in March!



That said, if it's true - THANK FREAKING GOD.

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migueltejada wrote:So what's the deal with the renovations too? Last I heard they had this spiffy new redesign, but haven't heard a thing since.


The article on the previous page mentioned that May 2 was the deadline for bids on remodeling the baggage claim, so I guess that's next.



So long as they continue making the incremental improvements they have been doing, I really couldn't care less if that mythical roof over the arrivals area is a few years off. Things like the remodeled security line for the A gates have really gone far to make the place suck less right now. It's a lot less depressing there than it was 2 years ago.



What I'd really like to see is some art in there. The airport in Vancouver is full of all sorts of aboriginal art/sculpture. The new terminal at DFW has some cool art installations.



We don't need anything to that kind of scale, but it wouldn't hurt at all, as an example, if they would tear out that awful 1970s "airplane window" wall as you go down the ramp into C and put up a mural.

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migueltejada wrote:
Billkn wrote:Southwest's STL-LAX nonstops definitely end after 8/23.



American is also dropping mainline service from Raleigh-Durham and San Antonio effective this fall.


When did they a non-stop to begin with? I fly that route once a year and I've never seen a non-stop. I always get routed through Phoenix.


I swear Southwest used to have an evening non-stop from STL-LAX a couple of years ago I took a few times. But I'm pretty sure all of their LAX-STL either stopped in PHX, LAS or ABQ. I hated the LAX-LAS-STL ones because of all the drunk/hungover/zonked out people we'd pick up in Las Vegas.

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PostMay 07, 2008#570

dweebe wrote:


I swear Southwest used to have an evening non-stop from STL-LAX a couple of years ago I took a few times. But I'm pretty sure all of their LAX-STL either stopped in PHX, LAS or ABQ. I hated the LAX-LAS-STL ones because of all the drunk/hungover/zonked out people we'd pick up in Las Vegas.


Currently there is a 10:35am and 3:10pm flight Mon-Friday & Sunday, with the afternoon departure discontinued this coming week. Those flights are nonstop. I'm not sure how long the route has been flown. I think since sometime since late 2005. Frontier has also briefly flown that route. Routes involving anything with Vegas passengers are interesting, to put it nicely.

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PostMay 07, 2008#571

SWA offers one daily non-stop flight to/from STL / LAX to date.

There are several direct flights with no connections, just 1 and/or 2 stops and many connection flights tio/from LAX & STL.

I have personally not heard that this flight will be discontinued after August... we will have to wait and see.

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PostMay 07, 2008#572

If I can get Imo's at Lambert, like this article suggests might be on the way, I seriously couldn't care less about a glassed-in arrival ramp.

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PostMay 08, 2008#573

By the end of this year, Lambert visitors may be able to sit down at Brioche Doree — an upscale French-style bakery and cafe — and a wine bar featuring labels from Missouri vineyards. Both would be on the ticketing level.


Do people really spend that much time on the ticketing side of things? I'm used to people going from ticketing, straight to the security side. Maybe I'm missing something.

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PostMay 08, 2008#574

ben1040 wrote:If I can get Imo's at Lambert, like this article suggests might be on the way, I seriously couldn't care less about a glassed-in arrival ramp.


This announcement is one of the most exciting IMO this year. This is LONG overdue. STL has some great local restaurants and putting them into our main transportation hub and exposing them to visitors is a no-brainer. Why continue to let national chains dominate the food choices when local companies can provide better food and keep the money in the region?



I really hope they can get a couple more to sign on, namely Ted Drewes and Lion's Choice. I also think it's awesome that you'll be able to get Missouri wines.

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JakeKTU wrote:Do people really spend that much time on the ticketing side of things? I'm used to people going from ticketing, straight to the security side. Maybe I'm missing something.
I hope the Imo's is past security.



I don't want TSA confiscating my pizza because provel (in its optimal temperature) resembles a liquid or gel!

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