The original paper they reference is also worth a read.The Mayor wrote: Sorry to double post, but I have one more. CityLab takes a look at St. Louis' curious street closures. Also written by a local.
https://www.citylab.com/transportation/ ... ic/586501/
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^Man, they really need to reopen the streets. If they're still worried about speeding motorists, just install a bunch of speed humps and other traffic calming devices and be done with it.
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That's the Philip Glass effect for ya. Appropriately, that particular piece is called "Pruit Igoe and Prophesies".
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Originally composed for Koyaanisqatsi, used in a segment that showed the construction of Pruitt Igoe and its ultimate demolition. Anyone who enjoys this forum should indulge and watch it...Trololzilla wrote: That's the Philip Glass effect for ya. Appropriately, that particular piece is called "Pruit Igoe and Prophesies".
St. Louis will have a 28 page spread in Delta Airlines' magazine this coming month. Have a look...really well put together. The City-County blurb may need a slight bit of editing, however...
https://view.imirus.com/209/document/13137/page/87
https://view.imirus.com/209/document/13137/page/87
Very cool, I always enjoy reading those finds as I'm a frequent traveler. There have been some really good airline write ups on STL over the last 2 years.
St. Louis mentioned as one of best places to work for those w/o a college degree:
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/02/busi ... grees.html
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/02/busi ... grees.html
What’s a good job?
[Several folks who did this study] define a “good job” in simple terms: It has to pay more than the national median wage, $37,690 in 2017, adjusted for the cost of living in the area. In Springfield, Mo., the cutoff is $33,100. In San Jose, Calif., it is $47,900. To figure out how many of these jobs are open to people without degrees, the economists scoured nearly 30 million local job ads across 121 metropolitan areas to determine their minimum educational requirements. They called them “opportunity jobs.”
Not sure if this is good press or bad press. Should we be proud to rank alongside places like Birmingham, Alabama and Cedar Rapids, Iowa? Curious to know everyone's thoughts on this.walker wrote: St. Louis mentioned as one of best places to work for those w/o a college degree:
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/02/busi ... grees.html
D5kSMyoWAAAwDfP.pngWhat’s a good job?
[Several folks who did this study] define a “good job” in simple terms: It has to pay more than the national median wage, $37,690 in 2017, adjusted for the cost of living in the area. In Springfield, Mo., the cutoff is $33,100. In San Jose, Calif., it is $47,900. To figure out how many of these jobs are open to people without degrees, the economists scoured nearly 30 million local job ads across 121 metropolitan areas to determine their minimum educational requirements. They called them “opportunity jobs.”
^ I wouldn't say it's bad. Most American's can't afford a college degree, especially now, so St. Louis having a pretty large share of "well paying" jobs that are attainable for those without a college education is probably a halfway decent thing.
Here is some more good press for the startup scene though:
St. Louis ranks as the number 2 city for entrepreneurs, just behind Seattle.
Here is what they had to say about STL:
"St. Louis lands as the second-best city for entrepreneurs thanks to its high business survivability, lower-than-average tax rate, and very low cost of living. While this may seem surprising to aspiring startup owners who equate bigger cities like San Francisco with entrepreneurship, St. Louis’s affordability and undersaturation make it the ideal proving ground for new businesses."
"St. Louis not only has the nation’s highest business survivability rating at 85.32% — compared to the national average of 79.27% — but it also ranks as one of the top 10 cities in the U.S. for millennial entrepreneurs. About 40 percent of new ventures are started by millennials and 42% by Gen Xers, according to Lending Tree. The city also boasts a number of startup resources, such as Accelerate St. Louis, a business accelerator, and EQ, a media platform dedicated to startups."
https://fitsmallbusiness.com/best-citie ... epreneurs/
Here is some more good press for the startup scene though:
St. Louis ranks as the number 2 city for entrepreneurs, just behind Seattle.
Here is what they had to say about STL:
"St. Louis lands as the second-best city for entrepreneurs thanks to its high business survivability, lower-than-average tax rate, and very low cost of living. While this may seem surprising to aspiring startup owners who equate bigger cities like San Francisco with entrepreneurship, St. Louis’s affordability and undersaturation make it the ideal proving ground for new businesses."
"St. Louis not only has the nation’s highest business survivability rating at 85.32% — compared to the national average of 79.27% — but it also ranks as one of the top 10 cities in the U.S. for millennial entrepreneurs. About 40 percent of new ventures are started by millennials and 42% by Gen Xers, according to Lending Tree. The city also boasts a number of startup resources, such as Accelerate St. Louis, a business accelerator, and EQ, a media platform dedicated to startups."
https://fitsmallbusiness.com/best-citie ... epreneurs/
Sure, The Mayor's example is more sexy than the one Walker posted, but right now St. Louis is a no-growth town. Anything that gets a few more people to think about moving here is OK with me.
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It is overwhelmingly good that working class folks without a college degree can make a good living here.
We should be talking that up just as much as the start up industry. Having a diverse city is so important to the feel and culture of the city and I personally love the working class vibe and don’t want to see it turn into the monotony of high income college educated like SF and Seattle.
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We should be talking that up just as much as the start up industry. Having a diverse city is so important to the feel and culture of the city and I personally love the working class vibe and don’t want to see it turn into the monotony of high income college educated like SF and Seattle.
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I definitely agree about the importance of good economic diversity, and am increasingly optimistic about St. Louis in that regard!
Just last week, three concrete masons in their 50s or 60s were sitting in front of me on the Metrolink and talking about how great their job prospects are in St. Louis these days with all of the construction work going on. It made me really happy to (over)hear that.
Just last week, three concrete masons in their 50s or 60s were sitting in front of me on the Metrolink and talking about how great their job prospects are in St. Louis these days with all of the construction work going on. It made me really happy to (over)hear that.
Halima Aden, Somali-American Muslim, supermodel to NYT:
“We landed in St. Louis, like the most impoverished part,” she said. “I remember stepping off and thinking, ‘This is a refugee camp, I want to go back home!’ We moved to St. Cloud, Minnesota, and life started looking up from there.”
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/29/busi ... issue.html
“We landed in St. Louis, like the most impoverished part,” she said. “I remember stepping off and thinking, ‘This is a refugee camp, I want to go back home!’ We moved to St. Cloud, Minnesota, and life started looking up from there.”
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/29/busi ... issue.html
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Sadly she only saw one portion of St Louis if she would have explored more she would have likely realized St Louis is truly a good place beautiful neighborhoods and enjoyed it here but I’m very happy for her
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She was being snarky. Perhaps a bad analogy. But no parts of St. Louis look like a refugee camp. Come on....I imagine that even the roughest parts look better than from where she came. Now that doesn't mean St. Louis isn't rough around the edges.
Maybe she lived in the notorious apartment complex off N. Skinker that was featured here:arch city wrote: She was being snarky. Perhaps a bad analogy. But no parts of St. Louis look like a refugee camp. Come on....I imagine that even the roughest parts look better than from where she came. Now that doesn't mean St. Louis isn't rough around the edges.
https://m.riverfronttimes.com/stlouis/s ... d=18913586
^Yep; that place is horrible. I always feel bad for the refugees that end up there.
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Oof, the comments on that RFT article just reminded me why I try very hard to not read the comment sections on the articles and social media accounts of the local papers.
For something a little bit more positive: has anyone else seen the STLMade ads? I hadn't heard of the organization until last night but they must be stepping up their outreach game a bit as I saw what I thought was a fantastic St. Louis promo at the movies yesterday before the film started.
The one that played at Ronnies was a bit different IIRC, but pretty similar. Hopefully they've got enough funding to start spamming that kind of stuff in every corner of America, though it was nice to see them run them in STL as well to help curb some of the defeatist local attitudes.
For something a little bit more positive: has anyone else seen the STLMade ads? I hadn't heard of the organization until last night but they must be stepping up their outreach game a bit as I saw what I thought was a fantastic St. Louis promo at the movies yesterday before the film started.
The one that played at Ronnies was a bit different IIRC, but pretty similar. Hopefully they've got enough funding to start spamming that kind of stuff in every corner of America, though it was nice to see them run them in STL as well to help curb some of the defeatist local attitudes.
^ As far as I know the whole point of this campaign is for locals and trying to get them to change their perception of the city. Most visitors seem to enjoy St. Louis. See those recent BJ articles from their new editor for one example, or all the gushing praise from places like the NYT, the Chicago Tribune, Forbes, etc. I brought a bunch of guys from my office in Kansas City over here a couple years ago and after about an hour all they could talk about was how amazing St. Louis is and how much KC sucked. It's locals that seem to be the hardest on the city and region and I think this spot and others like it are trying to change the narrative.
Re: RFT Comments...those have always been the biggest cesspool. It's somewhat interesting considering the more lefty leaning pitch of the RFT, but their comment pages have always been filled with horrible racist bigoted drivel for as long as I can remember. I'd say it's even worse than the PD, and that's saying something.
Re: RFT Comments...those have always been the biggest cesspool. It's somewhat interesting considering the more lefty leaning pitch of the RFT, but their comment pages have always been filled with horrible racist bigoted drivel for as long as I can remember. I'd say it's even worse than the PD, and that's saying something.
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I know that most 'outsiders' love STL once they get to know it, but I just feel that there's still a cloud of negative perception that hangs over the region (for somewhat obvious reasons), and some kind of national campaign to help change some of those perceptions would be welcome. It's worked for Detroit so far, I think (not that STL was ever really at Detroit's lowest low). Maybe proselytism doesn't absolutely need to be the focus, but it'd sure be nice to rack in some more tourists and their dollars with a few well-made ad campaigns.
But yes: overall, locals need to be shown the light, cause it's definitely glowing. I just hate that most of our peer cities have optimistic, eager mindsets while we sit, mired in a pit of self-loathing.
But yes: overall, locals need to be shown the light, cause it's definitely glowing. I just hate that most of our peer cities have optimistic, eager mindsets while we sit, mired in a pit of self-loathing.
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A couple things:Trololzilla wrote:I know that most 'outsiders' love STL once they get to know it, but I just feel that there's still a cloud of negative perception that hangs over the region (for somewhat obvious reasons), and some kind of national campaign to help change some of those perceptions would be welcome. It's worked for Detroit so far, I think (not that STL was ever really at Detroit's lowest low). Maybe proselytism doesn't absolutely need to be the focus, but it'd sure be nice to rack in some more tourists and their dollars with a few well-made ad campaigns.
But yes: overall, locals need to be shown the light, cause it's definitely glowing. I just hate that most of our peer cities have optimistic, eager mindsets while we sit, mired in a pit of self-loathing.
1) There is certainly still a negative perception that lingers nationally. When I moved here last summer (and I’m so happy that I did) people in Seattle constant asked “you really want to move to St. Louis?” But some of that is coastal elitism and they’d say that no matter what. They’d say Austin is too hot, or Nashville is too southern, etc.
2) The self-loathing seems to be a common theme in most metro areas from outspoken voices and especially suburban residents disparaging the cities their municipalities coattail from. Seattle is literally in its golden age in terms of development and prestige. You can argue that it’s failing it’s citizens with an ever widening wealth gap and unaffordable housing, but it is seeing rapid growth regardless. Still, one of the news agencies in the area recently created a documentary about the homelessness crisis called “Seattle is Dying” and oh boy did the metro area hold tight to that. I think everyone in the region saw it and it fostered a lot of negative discourse.
As a relatively recent transplant to St. Louis, I’m sure I am ignorant as I gawk at the ornate details on the most insignificant of buildings (something I never had the pleasure of in Seattle). I have also definitely plugged myself into the booster community and their hope for the city. But overall I see the city doing a lot to turn around it’s public image for the better and we are seeing an influx of college educated young adults for the effort. The investments made to improve so many of our museums, stadiums, etc is helping to set a good foundation for the tourism industry and will make it much easier to market our city moving forward.
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