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St. Liborius Skate Park

St. Liborius Skate Park

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PostDec 20, 2018#1

How come I've never heard of this? Anyone have more pics?

https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/h ... mho404SqHM




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PostDec 21, 2018#2

I don't have any pics, but it has been on my list to shoot for sometime. This place does really fly under the radar though. I heard about it a year or so ago when I saw an ad on Facebook for a Vice video about it. Was blown away, easily one of the cooler things in the city I think, and I'm not even into skateboarding.

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PostDec 21, 2018#3

I have an old friend that skates there pretty regularly. They have a Facebook page, and an Instagram account. I think there might also be a YouTube channel. (There are certainly plenty of videos.) But it's private, and I think kind of invitation only, so while well really known amongst the wheelier set it's maybe still not as well known mainstream. (Though it gets in the paper and on the news every now and then. Even sort of alternative nationally once in a while. At least if Viceland counts.) Most of their media is branded Sk8 Liborius, if that helps. Anyway, yeah, it's pretty doggone cool.

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PostDec 21, 2018#4

Here is the entire episode of the show Abandoned:


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PostDec 22, 2018#5

Just saw on Facebook that they had drone races inside the church last night. How cool is that?

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PostNov 23, 2021#6

To me, this is one of those things that sets St. Louis apart:

Sk8 Liborius was an underground draw for a decade. Now St. Louis' skate church is going legit
https://news.stlpublicradio.org/show/st ... zOlidn3ZRQ
Now the trio is ready to open the place for official business. They want to transform the space into an art center, bed and breakfast and a maker space to teach kids various skills, including skating, welding and woodworking.

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PostNov 23, 2021#7

sc4mayor wrote:To me, this is one of those things that sets St. Louis apart:

Sk8 Liborius was an underground draw for a decade. Now St. Louis' skate church is going legit
https://news.stlpublicradio.org/show/st ... zOlidn3ZRQ
Now the trio is ready to open the place for official business. They want to transform the space into an art center, bed and breakfast and a maker space to teach kids various skills, including skating, welding and woodworking.
Agreed. I don’t skate but it’s something I always point out to friends back home. St. Louis has a unique potential for adaptive reuse that few places in the country do. Would be cool to see the old Catholic church at Page and Academy get used for something similar.


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PostNov 24, 2021#8

^ St. Louis actually has a halfway decent track record with old churches. I think an architectural firm has reused one on the South Side somewhere, I know at least one, possibly two, churches have been converted to residences in Lafayette Square. One of them was an old church on Missouri that is now like 7 or 8 condos. I looked at one recently. Imagine standard 12 to 14 foot ceilings and cathedral stained glass windows…at no additional cost. Only in St. Louis.

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PostDec 24, 2021#9

How an unlikely duo saved St. Liborius: They put a skate park inside.
https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/met ... -top-story

Great dive into Sk8 Liborius from the PD here.  Also some tidbits about other historic churches in St. Louis that have seen new life.
In upstate New York, the Phi Sigma Kappa fraternity moved into a former church. A 19th century Episcopal church in Denver is now a nightclub. And a yoga studio briefly occupied a former Baptist church in New Orleans damaged by Hurricane Katrina.

In St. Louis, creative agency Obata was drawn to the huge windows at the former Markham Memorial Presbyterian Church on Menard Street in Soulard. The company restored the 19th century-era church into its offices over 40 years ago, and it has become part of the company’s identity, said Executive Vice President Chris Haller.  “It’s a beautiful building,” Haller said. “It really impresses clients.”
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Many churches here are built in the Gothic Revival style, with ornate decorations and ribbed vaults adorning ceilings, or influenced by the Renaissance style of Florence or Tuscany. Their dramatic architecture, once awe-inspiring to congregants, now galvanizes creative reuse both locally and across the U.S. 

“They represent craft that is no longer reproducible,” said Michael Allen, a preservationist and senior lecturer at Washington University.
But while cities like Chicago or Indianapolis often demolish interiors and keep just the shell of the church, St. Louis efforts often aim to preserve the insides, Allen said.
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St. Liborius served 4,500 German immigrants and their descendants in its heyday. But by 1992, congregants numbered fewer than 200, and the archdiocese merged it with other parishes. The Catholic Worker project called the Karen House used the three-building complex as a homeless shelter, but couldn’t handle the upkeep.  A decade ago, the charity handed over the keys to Sk8 Liborius. Years of neglect had nearly ruined the place. Stolen copper gutters and caps and a coffin-sized hole in the rectory’s roof allowed rain to pour in like waterfalls. Mortar crumbled. A floor joist rotted. And the complex, in its entirety, lacked modern construction, plumbing and electricity.

“We got it just in time,” said Blum. 








A handy map of some church conversions in St. Louis.  Though I can count a handful that aren't on here.  I don't see any of the Lafayette Square conversions.

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PostFeb 21, 2022#11

^Their videos have all been absolutely top notch and that one is fantastic too. Thanks for posting it and glad they got some recognition!

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PostJun 29, 2023#12



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PostJun 29, 2023#13

Ugh

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PostJun 29, 2023#14

Damn! 

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PostJun 29, 2023#15

They have to get to the bottom of what caused this.  They need some kind of incentive to install sprinkler systems in these old buildings.  This one wasn't even abandoned.  Its crazy how many we have lost recently.

We should get a running tally going.

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PostJun 29, 2023#16

Arson?

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PostJun 29, 2023#17

This makes me sick to my stomach.

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PostJun 29, 2023#18

Reportedly, it started as a kitchen fire. I don't know if it would have made a difference, but get a fire extinguisher for your kitchen if you do not have one already. I was watching it from the moment I heard the first sirens and before you could even see smoke rising, and I'll be honest, I don't think the fire department called in enough resources initially. It didn't have to spread to the church from the rectory, but once it did, there was no stopping it.

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PostJun 29, 2023#19

Did James Meinert remove his tweet thanking the fire department?   Seems like maybe they thought they had it under control until they didn't...

Terrible loss.  

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PostJun 30, 2023#20

TheWayoftheArch_V2.0 wrote:
Jun 29, 2023
Did James Meinert remove his tweet thanking the fire department?   Seems like maybe they thought they had it under control until they didn't...

Terrible loss.  
Still there


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PostJun 30, 2023#21

Terrible loss to the neighborhood and the larger community. Fortunately, they are getting a ton of press and STL has plenty of abandoned churches so hopefully we see version two appear soon. Too bad St. Augustine just burned because that would have been an ideal landing spot.

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PostJul 01, 2023#22

^I was kind of getting the vibe from some of the stories that they want to rebuild where they are. We have a lot of abandoned churches, but darn few so grand as Liborius. Either way, it sounds like they're committed to their neighborhood and the neighborhood is committed to them. Sounds like they've been good neighbors and helped folks out, so now folks want to return the favor. However it comes out, I hope they weather this storm. (And we all need to learn some lessons about fire prevention. Maybe it's time to think about sprinkling my house. This thing makes a body nervous. Especially with fireworks weekend happening.)

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PostJul 01, 2023#23

Demo permits were applied for yesterday. Is that just to clean things up?
Rebuilding seems super unlikely. Fixing it would cost like $20M? Where does that come from?
We throw away old churches here and fly to Europe to see them after all.

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PostJul 01, 2023#24

Would be cool if they could stabilize the walls and rebuild the skate park inside the church walls but without the roof

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PostJul 01, 2023#25

This is horrible news but I feel kind of heartless about it. The guys that ran this place were very exclusive, elite and from an anecdote, very suspicious to borderline hostile to those outside their group.

I hope they rebuild but also hope they don’t have the gall to ‘ask the community to help,’ or start a ‘Go Fund Me.’

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