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If and when we build the North & South Metrolink extension, this building is well places at two short blocks from the station at 14th and Delmar.



TOD!

irocktheparty2000 wrote:Speaking of views, only bummer could be for those who bought units on the NE side of Ely Walker. They may end up losing their arch views but hard to tell.

Here's a recent shot east from the 6th floor of Ely Walker:







Looks like Sky House will be about the width of the Monkey Building (with the hole in the roof). As for the height, I don't think the framing of this photo captures 22 floors at that location. I look forward to a future Ely Walker resident taking the "after" shot.



Certainly a shame for those on Ely's east side who were banking on that view, but it's going to be great to have even more residents and retail rooted west of 14th; hopefully that's a fair trade.

I really like the design of this building. Great to come home and see this proposal appear out of the blue.

That shot looking down Washington makes me think of one of the great urban-living cities, like Seattle or something. I sure hope this happens!

That is a sexy building.



The cutout is so the Arch views aren't blocked. Pretty cool.

When this gets built, it will be interesting to see how it mixes with Larry Rice's shelter.



Great looking building!

I think I like this building more than the Park East. With its location, adjacent to all the retail and "life" of Washington Avenue, I think this project will be a total success. I also think this will open the door to people who would not have considered living downtown before.

Wow. Wow. Wow.

For once, I really feel no skepticism toward the design. It probably won't end up being any architecural marvel, but still; talk about all-around, quality design. Even for those that don't like the base, it covers the parking efficiently and isn't overly blocky and, for one reason or another, it doesn't look "dead" like the parking floors of Park East. Fingers are crossed.

Damn, SLUAB...you took the words right out of my mouth. It is a sexy building.



Oh, and I will say that I will be a little sad to see my favorite sign go away. Hopefully they can save it somehow.



There's nothing like a 4 hour laundry service that offers your stuff in by 9, done by 3.

This is a beautiful building!



I reminise of the club-going days along Washington - before it was called "Wash Ave." Deep Blue, Galaxy, Lo, Monkey Bar and all the drinks and drugs (!). I never thought this area would be so expensive and trendy. I like "Wash Ave" and I can't wait to see more new buildings in StL.



Also, I can't find the phone number and address for the Developer. I find it odd that it's not posted. Are they legit?



Anyway, a sweet building in a sweet area.

rustedhinge wrote:This is a beautiful building!

Also, I can't find the phone number and address for the Developer. I find it odd that it's not posted. Are they legit?

I asked the same thing. They have worked on some large apt/condo projects in Chicago, but no highrises. Anyone else find that strange.



Metropolitan Development Enterprises

http://www.metropolitan-us.com/index.html

DeBaliviere wrote:

Grover wrote:All that AND a dog run! Now everyone should be happy

Everyone but migueltejada. He hates dogs.

Quite the contrary - I love dogs. I hate dog parks.

^DUDE!



good points with Conrad and THF.



I concur!

^Dudes, sometimes "developers" will develop nothing but a pretty rendering and a "concept" for what could be built on a desirable chunk of land, hoping to then sell-out to somebody else who can actually build the darn thing. I'm not saying that's what these guys are up to, just that that's what some developers do.

Dudes,



It's hard to doubt them 'right off the bat', especially when they have completed some nice projects and have a nice website, although none were highrises. Nevertheless, speculation is a good way to make money, and that's what they are here for; so everbody needs to keep pressing them.

This has been said before, but it reminds me of Seattle or Vancouver type condo towers, just half the size. Maybe someday we'll have 50 story condo towers too. For now, Im happy to see this.

I agree with what bpe said earlier. February in Saint Louis started off with plenty of bad news, so it's nice to end the month on a positive note with an unexpected and surprisingly good development proposal!



I love the building, and the location cannot be beat. For those skeptical of downtown's renaissance, I'd like to think that new construction will force them to revisit their perception of our downtown. Of course, it's one of several proposed new developments in downtown (Ballpark Village, the Roberts Bros. tower, new construction at Park Pacific, etc.).



I don't blame those that are still skeptical since none of these projects has made it past the drawing boards so far. In the meantime, however, I'll hope for the best because this looks like the right time and right location for this type of construction!

Framer wrote:^Dudes, sometimes "developers" will develop nothing but a pretty rendering and a "concept" for what could be built on a desirable chunk of land, hoping to then sell-out to somebody else who can actually build the darn thing. I'm not saying that's what these guys are up to, just that that's what some developers do.

And the guys teaming up on this project are local development group RileyWaldrop LLC. Riley Waldrop consists of developer Ben Riley; his father, Philip Riley; and Brad Waldrop. Aren't these guys the same guys who were mentored by Sam Glasser who has made millions in selling out to others who actually develop the buildings after aqcuisition? This is a cool looking building and I would love to see it get done....But Framer does have a point.

But in selling out, the buildings still get built. So I don't get the point.

MattnSTL wrote:But in selling out, the buildings still get built. So I don't get the point.

Meaning they own the property, can demonstrate the value and then sell the property for a value. They have done this several times already I believe, which is great for them as they are making money without ever really having to get their hands dirty. I'm not saying that this is what is happening here, just backing Framer's sentiment. I obviously do not know the complete history of The Riley Group but seem to remember that the two kids are very young, kind of got their feet wet with some units at Knickerbocker and this project just seems quite ambitious.



I honestly hope they get it done, put up a great building and make a ton of money.

According to their website, these developers have built mid-rise developments. Even at 22 stories, I'd still go Skyhouse a mid-rise, but I know that's tall for St. Louis. Then again, I'd call these developers' "mid-rise" projects in Chicago low-rise. IOW, it's all relative.

Framer wrote:^Dudes, sometimes "developers" will develop nothing but a pretty rendering and a "concept" for what could be built on a desirable chunk of land, hoping to then sell-out to somebody else who can actually build the darn thing. I'm not saying that's what these guys are up to, just that that's what some developers do.

Yes, this is true and I believe this actually happened with Park East Tower. The Park East proposal actually started off with Chicago-based Baker Development, but was eventually developed by Opus. And Baker has developed highrises. As long as the project moves forward, in the end it doesn't matter who builds it.



Still, and I know I express reservations about this a lot, I will never understand St. Louis Skepticism. It hasn't even been a full week since this project was announced, but already there are naysayers and skeptics.



I am reminded of the skeptics and naysayers who didn't think downtown - particularly Washington Avenue - could be saved and revitalized. What are they saying now?



In regards to the issue about about Park-Pacific, Roberts Tower etc. not making it past the drawing boards yet - even in places like Atlanta and Houston, where it is booming with new residential construction, it takes two - sometimes three - years from planning to actually see a project go up. I personally think the naysayers and skeptics are people who haven't followed major/new development closely much. The Roberts proposal, which is undergoing its second modification, is one of the oldest proposals; but I believe this project will happen. If it and others don't happen, the world won't stop turning.



In regards to the Rileys, youth is not always a handicap. Some young people have shown adults how take care of business.