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Grover wrote:Seems as though many residents would disagree. Not only has the physical infrastructure of the city changed over the past 100 years, city residents have changed as well. I think there will have to be some compromises regarding new businesses, i.e. every old storefront may not be a good location for a new storefront. That said, there are 1,000's of old storefronts across our fair city and the problem is not too FEW businesses.

I don't know, I can see how tearing down commercial buildings might have seemed like a good idea at the time, but 39th Street was just decimated by the demolitions. Having a small commercial district there would probably be a great asset to the neighborhood right now.

DeBaliviere wrote:I don't know, I can see how tearing down commercial buildings might have seemed like a good idea at the time, but 39th Street was just decimated by the demolitions. Having a small commercial district there would probably be a great asset to the neighborhood right now.

I hate what happened to 39th Street, because it could be so much more. Hopefully as rehabs in Shaw continue and the economy improves some of these places will be ripe for quality infill construction. I'd love to see some new storefronts with living space above even though I know there's no dearth of vacant or converted storefronts in other parts of the neighborhood and city, just because I'd love to see 39th Street become the Main Street of that area again someday.

I stopped in to check Sasha's out Wednesday around 5. The place looked great.



Re 39th St it's a tiny step but SweetArts was unexpectedly nice. I'll definitely go back.



http://sweetartstl.com/

Conurbation wrote:I haven't been there yet, but I am a bit surprised they allow smoking. So many of the new places popping up around town have cut out smoking. I guess you don't have to worry about alienating existing customers if you do it from the start. A wine bar seems like a goof "no smoking" candidate.

When I was there last night, the smoke wasn't nearly coming so much from cigarette smokers as it was from the fireplace by the bar.



The grilled veggie pizza was good, though.

I was told by the manager those buildings north of Shasha's are to be torn down for parking.

yes, let's turn this neighborhood into something along the lines of Chesterfield Valley, PLENTY of parking.. barf.

and yes, while it can be irritating if you are not able to park directly in front of your house, you do not OWN those spaces. It is a public street. lack of parking is a good problem to have. most vibrant cities have this issue..

Had lunch and some wine after the Love-In on Saturday. Pretty awsome set-up, seemed much bigger than the other one. Split in to two sections, one smoking one not. Pizza was good, also had the greens salad which was great. Will def be back.

I do not see how having a bar in Shaw is "doing good" for the Shaw community. Unless you mean good by more traffic, rude customers like yourselves, and break-ins. The police certainly do not feel as you do from what they say to us when there is a break-in of one of the customers cars. And now they are even offering a car club at a serious discounted price to us. This is good to you? That they recognize that this is bringing in more crime to the point of where they suggest to me to go to the police station and get a car club? I did feel bad at one point of the customers ignorance coming to this bar with nice cars and getting broken into, but due to the feedback I recieved- you get what you get. I was just stating a community concern and you- a concerned neighbor, I am sure- have showed your best side on this. And by all means, create more bars all around our city with overpriced food and drinks for the overly pretentious crowd- it is just what we need! I don't know why I so rudely thought of myself in a situation like this where it is apparently more important to have that across my street. Come one come all- give them more selection of cars to break into. It is doing our neighbor's good to have this option.

ciduadnax wrote:I do not see how having a bar in Shaw is "doing good" for the Shaw community. Unless you mean good by more traffic, rude customers like yourselves, and break-ins. The police certainly do not feel as you do from what they say to us when there is a break-in of one of the customers cars. And now they are even offering a car club at a serious discounted price to us. This is good to you? That they recognize that this is bringing in more crime to the point of where they suggest to me to go to the police station and get a car club? I did feel bad at one point of the customers ignorance coming to this bar with nice cars and getting broken into, but due to the feedback I recieved- you get what you get. I was just stating a community concern and you- a concerned neighbor, I am sure- have showed your best side on this. And by all means, create more bars all around our city with overpriced food and drinks for the overly pretentious crowd- it is just what we need! I don't know why I so rudely thought of myself in a situation like this where it is apparently more important to have that across my street. Come one come all- give them more selection of cars to break into. It is doing our neighbor's good to have this option.

This is insane.

ciduadnax wrote:I do not see how having a bar in Shaw is "doing good" for the Shaw community. Unless you mean good by more traffic, rude customers like yourselves, and break-ins. The police certainly do not feel as you do from what they say to us when there is a break-in of one of the customers cars. And now they are even offering a car club at a serious discounted price to us. This is good to you? That they recognize that this is bringing in more crime to the point of where they suggest to me to go to the police station and get a car club? I did feel bad at one point of the customers ignorance coming to this bar with nice cars and getting broken into, but due to the feedback I recieved- you get what you get. I was just stating a community concern and you- a concerned neighbor, I am sure- have showed your best side on this. And by all means, create more bars all around our city with overpriced food and drinks for the overly pretentious crowd- it is just what we need! I don't know why I so rudely thought of myself in a situation like this where it is apparently more important to have that across my street. Come one come all- give them more selection of cars to break into. It is doing our neighbor's good to have this option.

huh?

haha, the police have always given discounts for the club. They just didn't change their mind overnight in your neighborhood. If the neighborhood was against a bar, the resident's closest to the bar had an opportunity to not sign the petition to allow a liquor license.

ciduadnax wrote:I do not see how having a bar in Shaw is "doing good" for the Shaw community. Unless you mean good by more traffic, rude customers like yourselves, and break-ins. The police certainly do not feel as you do from what they say to us when there is a break-in of one of the customers cars. And now they are even offering a car club at a serious discounted price to us. This is good to you? That they recognize that this is bringing in more crime to the point of where they suggest to me to go to the police station and get a car club? I did feel bad at one point of the customers ignorance coming to this bar with nice cars and getting broken into, but due to the feedback I recieved- you get what you get. I was just stating a community concern and you- a concerned neighbor, I am sure- have showed your best side on this. And by all means, create more bars all around our city with overpriced food and drinks for the overly pretentious crowd- it is just what we need! I don't know why I so rudely thought of myself in a situation like this where it is apparently more important to have that across my street. Come one come all- give them more selection of cars to break into. It is doing our neighbor's good to have this option.

First of all, not sure if you know how the club works, but it is not a magic shield that protests your car from being broken into. It will however likely prevent your car from being stolen.



Second, what exactly entitles you to all of the street parking in the neighborhood. You hav eno more right to it than customers, drifters, aldermen or anyone. You bought or more likely rent a place which does not have assigned parking, having trouble finding a street spot is a realistic occurance. In short, deal with it.

ciduadnax wrote:I do not see how having a bar in Shaw is "doing good" for the Shaw community. Unless you mean good by more traffic, rude customers like yourselves, and break-ins. The police certainly do not feel as you do from what they say to us when there is a break-in of one of the customers cars. And now they are even offering a car club at a serious discounted price to us. This is good to you? That they recognize that this is bringing in more crime to the point of where they suggest to me to go to the police station and get a car club? I did feel bad at one point of the customers ignorance coming to this bar with nice cars and getting broken into, but due to the feedback I recieved- you get what you get. I was just stating a community concern and you- a concerned neighbor, I am sure- have showed your best side on this. And by all means, create more bars all around our city with overpriced food and drinks for the overly pretentious crowd- it is just what we need! I don't know why I so rudely thought of myself in a situation like this where it is apparently more important to have that across my street. Come one come all- give them more selection of cars to break into. It is doing our neighbor's good to have this option.

I don't know where to begin, but I think everyone else has summed this one up rather well anyway.

Man. I have like 5 places that serve alcohol near me. I'm worried about my neighborhood becoming a slum.



One place even brews their own beer and distills their own liquor. I'm scared.

As a pretentious customer and someone who parked in front of someone in the neighborhood's home, I'd like to point out that Sasha's is an awesome place to get non fast food late night eats.

Picked my gf up late at the airport the other night and stopped by Sasha's after midnight and was able to get a tasty brisket sandwich and a very good salad.

ciduadnax wrote:...That they recognize that this is bringing in more crime to the point of where they suggest to me to go to the police station and get a car club?...

you're probably lying since, as stated by others, the club doesn't prevent break-ins. if not, perhaps they suggested you get a club because THAT'S THE LOGICAL RESPONSE TO SOMEONE B*TCHING ABOUT CAR THEFT. either way the suggestion doesn't demonstrate that they "recognize" a related increase in crime.



To summarize:



you: i'm afraid my car is going to get stolen!!!



officer: then get a car club!

ciduadnax wrote:...I was just stating a community concern...

so... just YOUR concern?

lol

Just so you know the "club" is a joke. If someone wants to steal your car it takes about 15 seconds with a hacksaw to go though your stearing wheel and it can be pulled right off.

I didn't know Sasha's was bringing in "that"type of crowd. Holy crap there goes thw neighbor"hood"....