^ The loss is not in the architecture, the loss is in its replacement by a surface parking lot.
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the loss is both. i wish i could be there in your effort gasam. the archdiocese is not a glowing institution that it should be. they don't care about taking care of people anymore, or being there for people. they moved all the offices to kenrick from across from lindell marketplace. why? because they can. this does not shock me, but i am still upset.
I'm sure the residents of the Lindell Terrace are going to be thrilled to look out onto a surface parking lot. Talk about a million-dollar view.
STLgasm wrote:I'm sure the residents of the Lindell Terrace are going to be thrilled to look out onto a surface parking lot. Talk about a million-dollar view.
Actually, I doubt they'd mind, as they would have an unobstructed view of the Cathedral.
The building is now completely emptied of residents- if any other organization would have evicted a ton of poor old folks to build a parking lot for their corporate headquarters, the outrage would have been wide and deep, with the Catholics leading the charge. I'm surprised they've gotten a relative free pass on this one so far.
Will demolition have commenced by the time of the meeting?
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DrDrew wrote:Will demolition have commenced by the time of the meeting?
No, I don't believe the Archdiocese has applied for a demo permit yet. But it's coming.
This is sad. Surface lot? What the *****. This ignorant mentality is absolutely incomprehensible to me.
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Complain, complain, complain!
If the city gets enough complaints on this egregious abuse of the land (which should be forbidden by zoning), the Archdiocese may reconsider. Who knows? I hope that anyone who is able to attends that meeting later this month. I'll work on my emails tonight.
If the city gets enough complaints on this egregious abuse of the land (which should be forbidden by zoning), the Archdiocese may reconsider. Who knows? I hope that anyone who is able to attends that meeting later this month. I'll work on my emails tonight.
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For those interested, we will be staging a march and rally against the proposed parking lot immediately following the Saturday, March 29 meeting. Any urbanists who advocate a vibrant, aesthetically appealing St. Louis are encouraged to participate. This is a rally for common sense.
DrDrew wrote:STLgasm wrote:I'm sure the residents of the Lindell Terrace are going to be thrilled to look out onto a surface parking lot. Talk about a million-dollar view.
Actually, I doubt they'd mind, as they would have an unobstructed view of the Cathedral.
And of course, one of the residents of Lindell Terrace is Caroyln Toft, head of Landmarks Association of St. Louis (you know, the people who are supposed to be trying to protect our built environment). She's been awfully quite about this...
Be careful. Oppose this and Archbishop Burke will say you're committing a sin for having views that contradict the church. No communion for you. (and possibly a nice lightning strike)
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^ I guess I'll take over the lead on this one then, as I gave up or the church long ago. EVOLUTION EVOLUTION EVOLUTION. That being said, this is a crying shame. I'm of course out of town over this weekend (F!@#ing College) but I wish the best of luck to everyone and hope the turnout is terrific!
STLgasm wrote:I'm sure the residents of the Lindell Terrace are going to be thrilled to look out onto a surface parking lot. Talk about a million-dollar view.
I remain to be convinced that the San Luis is a million dollar view, either.
Wouldn't the general economics of the CWE suggest that land is far too valuable to be a parking lot? I imagine it being paved over while the archdiocese shops around for a developer to sell it to. There's money locked in that land and the diocese certainly has sold off some of its other real estate recently.
ben1040 wrote:STLgasm wrote:I'm sure the residents of the Lindell Terrace are going to be thrilled to look out onto a surface parking lot. Talk about a million-dollar view.
I remain to be convinced that the San Luis is a million dollar view, either.
Wouldn't the general economics of the CWE suggest that land is far too valuable to be a parking lot? I imagine it being paved over while the archdiocese shops around for a developer to sell it to. There's money locked in that land and the diocese certainly has sold off some of its other real estate recently.
Maybe not, but does maintain the continuity of the streetscape, unlike a giant gap that a parking lot will create.
I'm kind of torn on how I feel about the building - I generally dislike mid-century architecture, and I clearly remember how ugly I thought that building was when I moved here nearly four years ago. On the other hand, it's kind of funky, and has grown on me.
What I seriously object to is the idea that it will be torn down for nothing more than a surface lot. Amazing.
If the Church wants to do something constructive with it, like building a nice new home for the Cathedral school, then replacing the current school buildings with a low-lying parking garage, I'd be less enraged.
What I seriously object to is the idea that it will be torn down for nothing more than a surface lot. Amazing.
If the Church wants to do something constructive with it, like building a nice new home for the Cathedral school, then replacing the current school buildings with a low-lying parking garage, I'd be less enraged.
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The more I contemplate the design of this building, I am more convinced that it is an AWESOME example of funk-o-fabulous (uncommon in STL) mid-century jive. There's no way we can let this happen.
What a cool building.
What a cool building.
This is actually one of the few mid-century buildings that I actually sorta, kinda like.
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JivecitySTL wrote:For those interested, we will be staging a march and rally against the proposed parking lot immediately following the Saturday, March 29 meeting. Any urbanists who advocate a vibrant, aesthetically appealing St. Louis are encouraged to participate. This is a rally for common sense.
I've got a weekend class that meets March 29, but I'm going to try to squeeze out a couple of hours anyway.
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It's &$#@ like this that makes me question why I love this city so much. I am increasingly fed up with our city government. I know so many people that are passionate about this city, but it seems like there aren't enough of them to challenge the old guard that seems content to witness the wanton destruction of our valuable and truly unique built environment. I really think it's time to clean house at City Hall, and I worry about how much of what makes our city great will be lost by the time that actually happens.
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We will tentatively be meeting Sunday night at 7:00 pm at the Grind to discuss what we can do. This is outside of the previously scheduled public meeting. We will try to determine how to get information out about the demolition, and discuss anything we can do to stop it. Please come out if you can.
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^ Keep us posted. I'd like to go, but I'm going out of town tomorrow. I should be back some time Sunday evening, so if I'm back in St. Louis I will try to make it there. (As a bonus, I've been wanting to try out The Grind anyway and I haven't had a chance yet, so that'd be a great opportunity to see what it's like.)
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Make sure you call all the local TV stations to tell them that you will be staging a rally so that they know to send reporters to cover the story.
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For anyone interested, we are planning to meet this Sunday, March 16, 7:00pm at the Grind @ Lindell & Boyle to discuss this issue. All are encouraged to attend. Yay!
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I'm pleased to report that the Board of Directors of Landmarks Association approved a statement supporting rehabilitation of the San Luis Apartments (originally the DeVille Motor Hotel). The statement is on our website: http://www.landmarks-stl.org/
Better late than never, I guess. But shouldn't Landmarks be doing something more than simply posting an 11th-hour statement on their website?
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With a public meeting coming up on March 29, a community that would rather not support a surface lot on Lindell, and as of yet no demolition permit application, the 11th hour has yet to come.