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PostApr 08, 2010#126

The Post-Dispatch now has a breakdown of the voting on Prop. A by township:

Votes by township

Support for Prop. A was predictably overwhelming in the northern and central County, with the "Yes" vote exceeding 75% in 7 of the 16 townships. The most intense opposition was in parts of South County (notably Oakville Township), but fortunately there were far fewer votes cast down there.

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PostApr 08, 2010#127

Big victory for the region as a whole. I think it's fair to say that the economic benefits of transit and infrastructure investment are entirely lost to a certain demographic of our population (not going any further than that).

After restoring service and improving the existing service, I think it is of vital importance that metro-link accurately plan and announce (No-matter how far away the actual project date is) the next progression of its regional construction. As was stated by another in the last few pages, metro-link is the "sexy" in the transit system. This is what is going to drive future momentum for metro transit as a whole, and should be moved toward as quickly as possible.

One last quick thought. I know you don't construct on pie in the sky dreams, but does anyone else believe that a GOOD North-South metro-link line might drastically change the city over the course of the next 50 years? Projected ridership is, of course, what is used to determine (with many other factors) the success of a certain project, but I don't think the future of the city should be ignored for the current. Like it or not, McKee's project in North city might begin, along with an infinite amount of other situations over the next 50 years (China hub, anyone?) that could forever alter the North and South sides of the city if supported by well organized metro-link development. A little forward thought to the possibilities would be nice to see.

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PostApr 09, 2010#128

Hugh Ferriss wrote:The most intense opposition was in parts of South County (notably Oakville Township), but fortunately there were far fewer votes cast down there.
That's not surprising- that area really gets out for the "no" vote. I'm amazed that Oakville has schools and fire protection- that area of South County is pretty conservative about matters like that.

I'm just now weighing in, but I am so glad that St. Louis County residents overwhelmingly backed this initiative. As others have noted elsewhere, this even passed in some areas that are generally quite conservative, so obviously, a good number of people in (most) parts of St. Louis County realized what an advantage a stronger transit system is for our region. Also, as others have said, hopefully Metro will seize this opportunity and maintain the public trust.
southsidepride wrote:But seeing Loesch, Hennessy and the rest of the tea partiers with egg on their face is a definite fringe benefit.
Amen. I'm generally more liberal than conservative, and while I wish government leaders would embrace fiscal conservatism more often, my ideas of conservatism are pretty far out of whack with the average Tea Party member to the point where I'd never be welcome among that group, not that I care or anything. I just think it's rather sad that any non-war spending is looked upon by these people as socialism, and this unfortunately myopic view comes right at a time when our nation has serious infrastructure issues that need to be addressed. If anything, now is the right time for initiatives like this. Think of the many private sector jobs that may be created by the construction of additional Metrolink lines, and the private sector jobs that will be saved with an adequate transit system for the region. That doesn't seem like socialism to me. 8)

ThreeOneFour, officially unwelcome in the St. Louis Tea Party (and, probably, Oakville) :wink:

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PostApr 09, 2010#129

Hugh Ferriss wrote:The Post-Dispatch now has a breakdown of the voting on Prop. A by township:

Votes by township

Support for Prop. A was predictably overwhelming in the northern and central County, with the "Yes" vote exceeding 75% in 7 of the 16 townships. The most intense opposition was in parts of South County (notably Oakville Township), but fortunately there were far fewer votes cast down there.
Looking at the map of the townships in the P-D this morning made me wish that the County was broken down by township instead of municipality.

BTW, I'm proud of my township - Jefferson - for its pro-A stance.

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PostApr 09, 2010#130

The term "township" is all new to me. For example, what are the boundaries of the the Clayton township?

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PostApr 09, 2010#131

Moorlander wrote:The term "township" is all new to me. For example, what are the boundaries of the the Clayton township?
Scroll down to the bottom for a listing of the various townships - Link

Here's Clayton - Link

There's a notch cut out of the southern end of Clayton, where my house just happens to be!

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PostApr 09, 2010#132

well there's a notch around my hood too. I'm actually in the Hadley township... Who knew?!

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PostApr 09, 2010#133

I mapped the voting results for Prop A. You can see the maps on my Gateway Streets blog. Much easier to interpret than tables with townships most people never knew existed.

Also, this page here shows a St. Louis County map with all 28 townships labeled.

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PostApr 09, 2010#134

^ Good work!

Everyone see this week's "write your own punchline" cartoon in the Post-Dispatch? Featuring a flying Metro bus and the Tea Party! - http://ow.ly/1wErf (Courtesy of @STLtransit)


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PostApr 12, 2010#135

Good info here.

"Metro CEO Bob Baer speaking with Charles Jaco on Proposition A, Restoration 2010, and what changes are being made to St. Louis transit. Bob Baer talks about transparency, fiscal responsibility, and lesson learned from the past."

http://www.fox2now.com/news/jaco/ktvi-j ... 2089.story

My favorite tidbit. The averagege big city gets 23% of it's mass transit funding from the state. St. Louis gets 1%.

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PostApr 12, 2010#136

^ Cool - thanks Moorlander - the video's up on the urbanSTL homepage now.

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PostApr 13, 2010#137

Moorlander wrote:My favorite tidbit. The averagege big city gets 23% of it's mass transit funding from the state. St. Louis gets 1%.
Yep. One more way Missouri is a millstone around our necks.

Before anybody lectures me again on how we all need to play nice as a region blah blah blah: go tell it to the Springfield Taliban, wouldja? I've been paying for their highways for years. When does it start to flow the other way?

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PostApr 16, 2010#138

This tells you which buss routes will get restored:

http://www.cmt-stl.org/news/story_6.html

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PostMay 06, 2010#139

In today's Metro Live discussion on STLtoday.com, Metro's Ray Friem said that the fare increase scheduled for July would be postponed. I've got some details in a post on my blog.

It would have looked pretty bad for Metro to raise fares immediately after St. Louis County passed Proposition A.

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PostMay 06, 2010#140

And they mentioned that with the passage of Prop A, Metro is now in the running for a portion of the newly announced $700M+ federal investment in bus transit infrastructure (buses, equipment, stops, etc.). The local match is 20% and would clearly have been impossible without Prop A passing.

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PostMay 06, 2010#141

When does the new tax rate go into effect?

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PostMay 27, 2010#142

The new tax rate doesn't go into effect until July 1, and Metro's budget doesn't account for receiving any new money until September, though I'm not sure why.

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PostMar 31, 2011#143

Lots of good nuggets for anyone thinking of running a campaign.

Lessons from the Passage of Prop A: http://scr.bi/gfMcvS

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