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PostSep 15, 2006#11

and by 'rest of us', you're referring to those over the age of 40?
Over 40?! Thats putting it kindly. The typical shoppers at Frontenac seem to be really really old money that should have expired years ago.



And if the store that they are building is one of the larger ones, it must not be a large chain. All thats up right now is a bare bones steel frame and it looks pretty small. Perhaps there may be two levels?

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PostSep 15, 2006#12

My aunt and cousin shop there quite a bit. I always feel like the people there know I don't belong there anytime I end up going with them, and happen to walk through Saks or something. :lol:

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PostSep 16, 2006#13

I always feel like I should have washed my car or something before I head there for the theater.

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PostSep 20, 2006#14

It looks like the rumor of a Williams Sonoma Home store is correct. According to the planning and zoning committee meeting minutes for the city of Frontenac, this will be a 7000sf store and will be the sixth one in the chain.



http://www.cityoffrontenac.org/files/PZ ... 012406.pdf

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PostMay 12, 2008#15



Frontenac to lose one big name but gain three

By Deb Peterson

ST. LOUIS POST-DISPATCH

05/10/2008





SHOPPING NIRVANA: Three luxury retailers will make their debuts soon on the main level of Plaza Frontenac. Juicy Couture and Kate Spade are both newcomers to our town. Juicy plans to open in November; Kate Spade next spring. Also opening a third local store at Frontenac is Teavana, a specialty retailer offering more than 100 varieties of loose-leaf teas and tea sets, including handcrafted Japanese cast iron, famous Chinese Yixing clay pots and fine bone china. Teavana plans to open in September. Juicy Couture is a California fashion phenomenon that will feature a full range of women's and children's clothing and accessories. Kate Spade is an upscale brand from the Liz Claiborne line. The store here will offer shoes, handbags, apparel, fragrances and accessories. The three new stores will be added to Frontenac's existing collection of more than 40 retailers, including anchors Neiman Marcus and Saks Fifth Avenue, restaurants and a movie theater. Kate Spade and Juicy will replace Talbots Kids, which has been at Frontenac since 1995 and plans to close in the fall. Teavana will be adjacent to Canyon Cafe and the Strauss-Peyton Gallery, which will be relocated within the shopping center. Privately held Davis Street Land Co. owns Frontenac. The principals of the company are responsible for such properties as Orland Park Crossing in Orland Park, Ill.; Renaissance Place in Highland Park, Ill.; the Mall at Green Hills in Nashville, Tenn.; and the Gardens on El Paseo in Palm Desert, Calif. It is also developing the Meadows at Lake Saint Louis.




http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/news/c ... enDocument

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PostMay 13, 2008#16

Seems like great additions. Wonder what happened to Talbot Kids? Poor sales?

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PostMay 13, 2008#17

^It may have something to do with the fact that the typical shopper at Frontenac has no small children. Have you seen the people that shop there??

I've been there a few times and at 23, I'm the youngest person in the building by far.

It's really an old dowager mall. I work across the street and can vouch for this.

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PostMay 13, 2008#18

Arch City wrote:Seems like great additions. Wonder what happened to Talbot Kids? Poor sales?


All Talbot Kids Stores and Talbot Mens stores are being closed down across the country. This includes the locations at Plaza Frontenac and in Chesterfield. I have heard that Burberry is looking to take the spot that Talbot Mens is currently in at Plaza Frontenac

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ChesterfieldKid03 wrote:I have heard that Burberry is looking to take the spot that Talbot Mens is currently in at Plaza Frontenac.
Thanks for your information.



And I think it's well past time that Burberry entered the St. Louis market. At this rate, Plaza Frontenac might have to add an addition.

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PostMay 13, 2008#20

I always envisioned stores of this caliber locating in Carondelet Village.

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PostMay 14, 2008#21

I found plans on the Frontenac city website for an expanded Plaza Frontenac in the site of the Shriners Hospital. Once the hospital moves to the CWE, the land will be used as an extension of Plaza Frontenac.

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PostMay 15, 2008#22

That is one crappy Master Plan. Frontenac has/ had the potential to create a really great core area from Lindbergh to Spoede along Clayton if it just had some vision and balls. With an aging population, they have a ready-supply of potential purchasers for some age-restricted condos in that area that could add some urban form and density to a potentially walkable core (heck such a development would be a small step toward either improved Metrobus Express service- not that Frontenac wants bus service- or maybe one day Metrolink on the Highway 40 corridor). But then again, what do you expect from a bunch of people who when asked what they like and dislike about the Clayton-Lindbergh intersection, complain about the quirky semi-urban older building on the north-west corner.

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PostMay 15, 2008#23

FromTheLou wrote:I found plans on the Frontenac city website for an expanded Plaza Frontenac in the site of the Shriners Hospital. Once the hospital moves to the CWE, the land will be used as an extension of Plaza Frontenac.


It actually looks like BJC will develop the site. There are no plans currently for Plaza Frontenac to expand. This was in an article from the Business Journal a few weeks ago:




BJC HealthCare is eyeing the Shriners Hospital property in Frontenac.



The health-care system, St. Louis' largest employer, is evaluating whether the 15-acre property at 2001 S. Lindbergh Blvd. could be used for future development, according to a planning document obtained by the Business Journal. The property, which is just south of Highway 40 and next to the Plaza Frontenac shopping mall, could cost an estimated $12 million, according to the BJC scenario planning report.



BJC spokeswoman June Fowler declined to comment about the health-care system's interest in the Shriners site: "We're always looking at property," she said.


http://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/stor ... a=from_rss

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^ The info from "FromTheLou" comes from the Frontenac Land Use Plan, not from an application currently before the Land Use Board.

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PostMay 16, 2008#25

Arch City wrote:
ChesterfieldKid03 wrote:I have heard that Burberry is looking to take the spot that Talbot Mens is currently in at Plaza Frontenac.
Thanks for your information.



And I think it's well past time that Burberry entered the St. Louis market. At this rate, Plaza Frontenac might have to add an addition.


A Burberrys store that opened in Plaza Frontenac in 1989 failed in 1993.

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PostMay 16, 2008#26

bonwich wrote:A Burberrys store that opened in Plaza Frontenac in 1989 failed in 1993.
Didn't know about the Burberry's at Plaza Frontenac. I had moved away from the St. Louis area. I think "failed" might be a strong description though. Gucci was also at PF. I've heard mismanagement of Plaza Frontenac years ago caused a lot of stores to leave.



David Street seems to be on their job.

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PostJul 10, 2008#27

By Joe Whittington

SPECIAL TO THE POST-DISPATCH

07/10/2008



COLORFUL ADDITION: High-fashion accessories store Hermès will open a 1,700-square-foot store in Plaza Frontenac in the fall of 2009.



Sources and a Davis Street Land Co. (which owns the mall) leasing map show the new tenant will go in where the Crane & Co. Paper Makers is. Workers at Crane's have only heard rumors of that.



"We are always talking with Crane, who has been a longtime tenant," said shopping center General Manager David Freeburg, who indicated he was not familiar with the leasing layout in question.



There are only 25 of these stores in the United States, and they are in such high-end shopping meccas as South Coast Plaza in Costa Mesa, Calif.; Beverly Hills, Calif.; Bal Harbour, Fla.; the Ala Moana Center in Hawaii; and Americana Man­hasset on Long Island.



Among other new tenants coming to the shopping center in 2009 are specialty retailers MAC cosmetics, Crewcuts children's clothes by J. Crew, Juicy Couture and Kate Spade.


http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/busine ... enDocument

PostJan 15, 2011#28

Williams Sonoma Home, which is located on a out parcel in front of the mall is closing, as are all the other Williams Sonoma Home Stores in the country except for the one in NYC. Taking the space will be Pottery Barn Kids store and a Pottery Barn Teen store, which will be only the 4th location in the country. The other teen stores are in NYC, Chicago and Atlanta.

Also opening soon inside Plaza Frontenac is an Omega Watch boutique.

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NEW YORK (Dow Jones)--General Growth Properties Inc. (GGP) said Tuesday it is under contract to buy Plaza Frontenac, a 500,000-square-foot luxury mall in St. Louis.

The property, built in 1974, had been put on the block by Perlmutter Investment Co.'s Davis Street Land Co. and Verizon Communications Inc.'s (VZ) pension fund.

General Growth's chief executive, Sandeep Mathrani, said during the company's earnings call that it plans to form a joint venture with an institutional investor who will own a 45% stake in the mall.

"This transaction is consistent with our philosophy to own the best malls in the market," Mathrani said. He didn't specify the pricing details, but disclosed the company sold a 26% stake in its Galleria mall in St. Louis and used the proceeds to buy Plaza Frontenac.

The mall is only one of nine in the country that is anchored by both Saks Fifth Avenue and Neiman Marcus department stores. The property had been on the market since May and generates tenant sales of $500 a square foot, according to Dave Doupe, a broker with Jones Lang LaSalle who represented the sellers. He noted that is slighlty below the sales volumes generated before the recession.
http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-201 ... 20430.html

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PostNov 27, 2023#30

Obviously, it's a rip-off compared to buying at the factory store in Chesterfield and unfortunately it will be put in a mall instead of a better location like downtown or CWE, but it is great to see a brand like Nike actually put in a non-outlet high end store in the region. Makes me feel like we are a big city! I don't think any other comparable footwear brand has a flagship store in STL. 
https://www.plazafrontenac.com/en/directory/nike-55857.html

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