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Pappas House For Sale!

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PostMay 02, 2018#1

The Pappas House, one of only two by Frank Lloyd Wright in the STL area, is now for sale. $1.95 million. This won't last long:

https://www.savewright.org/building/pap ... for_sale=1

http://www.stltoday.com/lifestyles/home ... 04505.html


PostMar 23, 2019#2

Still for sale. An effort is underway to raise money to turn the house into a museum.

Everything inside is still original, even the kitchen appliances!





Full article and lots more pics here:

https://www.stltoday.com/lifestyles/hom ... f5c.html#1

PostOct 26, 2019#3

OK, the Pappas House is considered the most important Frank Lloyd Wright house in Missouri. So why is it still available? (hopefully because the family is holding out to make sure it's preserved)


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PostOct 28, 2019#4

Whenever the house sells, I sure hope it is preserved and get's the much-needed attention it deserves. 

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PostNov 05, 2019#5

The Pappas house has been removed from the market. It's behind the paywall, so I'm not sure what's up:

https://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/new ... QT09In0%3D

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PostNov 05, 2019#6

framer wrote:
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The Pappas house has been removed from the market. It's behind the paywall, so I'm not sure what's up:

https://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/new ... QT09In0%3D
Basically, the family took it down to take a break and to consider their options moving forward. They have no immediate plans to relist the house. Interest remained large, including one offer being made, but that failed to materialize. Iy was also taken down since this time of year is when home sales slow down. 

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PostFeb 27, 2020#7

Frank Lloyd Wright Pappas House is sold; plans are to turn it into museum, event center
https://www.stltoday.com/lifestyles/hom ... 9c98e.html

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PostFeb 27, 2020#8

^Great news!

PostFeb 28, 2020#9

A statement from the group that bought the Pappas House:

https://flwrevivalinitiative.org/frank- ... ael-miner/

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PostFeb 29, 2020#10

framer wrote:
Feb 28, 2020
A statement from the group that bought the Pappas House:

https://flwrevivalinitiative.org/frank- ... ael-miner/
What did I just read?? I'm beginning to think that the FLW Revival Initiative might be a cult. 

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PostFeb 29, 2020#11

^Yeah, I'm gonna remain cautiously optimistic. They do sound a bit different, though. Let's hope for the best.  

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PostFeb 29, 2020#12

That statement went from normal to insane sooooo quickly

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PostMar 01, 2020#13

I don't see anything wrong about that statement besides the guy getting carried away towards the end. 

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PostMar 02, 2020#14

^There's nothing "wrong" with it, per se, apart from a lack of editing. But it moves away from the language of the generic press release into the colloquial and personal fairly quickly. And at the end it gets almost political, which is rarely a good choice when you hope to stay friendly with your neighbors and relatives. Mind you, there's no crime here of which I'm not guilty myself: I post under-edited things to this forum, my blog, and even my website from time to time. But all of my stuff is pretty small-time. (And I do try to keep my politics away from the more professional stuff . . . for reasons.) It's not a clear case, but it does go weird. Getting carried away is itself pretty dang weird for this sort of thing, I'd say. Maybe not for an interview in person. (We all get passionate about the things we love.) But it's odd for a press release.

Of course, there's room to argue that we SHOULD be less sterile with our language: that it's more authentic, and that this will speak better to the contemporary audience. Perhaps the bland and corporate is on its way out. And in the end we all are political, so it's not too surprising that our politics will creep in at the edges every now and then even if we try to keep them out. (And maybe that too is okay. Right now we have some big decisions to make that will resonate far into the future. Assuming we don't screw it up too badly, that is.)

But anyway, I think that's why it's a little weird. It reads like a post that I made here on the forum at three in the morning while drunk. That's pretty normal here, but more than a touch odd in professional life. (Also note: I am an artist and stagehand. So I am expected to be weird. Weird is normal in theatre.)

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PostMar 02, 2020#15

...damn theater people.  

Anyway, I do wonder how they plan to get groups of people to the house, considering its in an exclusive residential neighborhood and all. 

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PostMar 02, 2020#16

^If you rent you get a one use passcode? Good question, that. I worry this will be a bit of an overglorified AirBnB, but . . . I could see myself paying to stay there. Just to stay there and take it in. Every time you get to hang out casually in a masterwork it's worth it.

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PostMar 02, 2020#17

I suspect Town and Country would unlikely allow such uses.

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PostMar 02, 2020#18

^That may be why they're talking about a "preservation easement." That bit is something of a mystery to me. Easements are usually about access: the power company has an easement to run their power lines across your property and to access and maintain them, right? So maybe the "preservation easement" is their way of saying "we hope we can slip this past the covenant somehow." Given that the house significantly predates the existence of Town and Country maybe they even have legs. Not sure. This is doubtless a question that a team of lawyers will be looking into.

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PostMar 04, 2020#19

"saving the country from the current financial mess" ---> what does this have to do with anything?

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PostMar 05, 2020#20

^That would be the most obviously "drunk and political and three o' clock in the morning" part.

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PostJun 02, 2020#21

"Frank Lloyd Wright-Designed Pappas House Set for Public Viewing" (fundraiser on June 7th)

https://www.riverfronttimes.com/newsblo ... SDK9X5DGhw



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PostJun 24, 2020#22

I went to the June 7 fundraiser.

It was interesting in that Cynthia, one of the Pappas daughters who grew up in the house, talked about her parents’ love of everything FLW. It surprised me that her parents did actual building, well some of the building, themselves. The cement blocks that form the house were commissioned, but Mr. and Mrs. Pappas did some of the laying  of these blocks. She said her mother did  glazing in the living room.

The floors in this house are in fabulously beautiful condition. They are? Red cedar? I think that’s it. My favorite thing about the living room is that it has varying ceiling heights.

They don’t know the square footage of this house they have estimates that range from 2000 to 3000 ft.²  The main house doesn’t seem very big to me, But by the time you factor in the big entryway and the large room off of that, it might be 3000 ft.²

The roof leaks quite a bit. Cynthia said that was true throughout their stay in the house. Apparently that is a signature of FLW houses, leaking roofs.

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PostJun 24, 2020#23

gelatinousendive wrote:
Jun 24, 2020

The floors in this house are in fabulously beautiful condition. They are? Red cedar? I think that’s it. My favorite thing about the living room is that it has varying ceiling heights.
Poured concrete. Cherokee red. FLW's favorite color. 

PostJun 19, 2021#24

The Pappas House is looking for docents to lead tours.

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PostApr 11, 2022#25

St. Louis Pappas House Fundraiser & Film Screening for the Frank Lloyd Wright Revival Initiative
https://flwrevivalinitiative.org/event/pappas-house-fundraiser-film-screening-for-the-frank-lloyd-wright-revival-initiative/

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