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Olive Crossing Yawitz $37 million mixed-use project in Olivette

Olive Crossing Yawitz $37 million mixed-use project in Olivette

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PostFeb 04, 2017#1

Yawitz plans $37 million mixed-use project in Olivetti

At 170 and Olive.

http://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/news ... ct-in.html

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PostFeb 04, 2017#2

Well that's pretty underwhelming.

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PostFeb 04, 2017#3

^agreed. Everything seems really spread out. I wish they just did a garage or something for parking.

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PostFeb 05, 2017#4

Olive Blvd could be very interesting, extremely diverse population but this proposal stinks!

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PostMar 07, 2020#5

Demo of the homes on Locust Ln is almost complete.

They are calling this development Olivette Gateway Plaza.

Pics and video here:

https://www.loopnet.com/Listing/9100-Ol ... /14578212/

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https://www.keatproperties.com/gateway-plaza

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PostMar 07, 2020#6

Wow. I watched the rendering video on the site linked above and I just couldn't get over all that parking. Couldn't we just have a garage?

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PostMar 07, 2020#7

A sexy, new mixed-use development in Olivette!
omg, so many cars can park there! so sexy!

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PostApr 18, 2020#8

Time to change the name of this development, it's now "Olive Crossing". Building designs look to be decent, especially the large office building. Certainly a world better than the previous fly through rendering shared above. According to the KDG website (where these renderings are from), there will be a dual-brand hotel on site. A Courtyard by Marriott and a Element Hotel. The whole project seems a bit ambitious but there's a lot of parking.

The renderings shared here are also featured on the Loopnet Link posted above. The listing was updated on April 10th so these are the latest plans.









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PostApr 18, 2020#9

That really has grown in scope, and construction is underway. They've definitely got the jump on Novus's much-larger plan across 170 in U City (which is still struggling to nail down it's financing).  

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PostApr 20, 2020#10

well they win the award for most unoriginal name.  It looks decent though.  It might not be urban enough for some, but considering the current local density, adjacent infrastructure and current uses, this is pretty great.

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PostApr 20, 2020#11

^ Pretty much perfectly described what I wanted to say. Not something I’d be super happy with in the city...but considering it’s location along a suburban stroad next to a freeway...pretty good. Building designs are strong too. Should look pretty good from 170.

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PostApr 20, 2020#12

Isn’t the Westport Metro line supposed to run through this area, someday?

Also there currently are some big power lines running through the middle of this land.

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PostApr 20, 2020#13

And they made at least some effort to hide the parking behind the buildings. 

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PostApr 21, 2020#14

moorlander wrote:
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Isn’t the Westport Metro line supposed to run through this area, someday?  
I've been thinking the same thing. This would place a massive roadblock in the middle of a relatively unobstructed right-of-way stretching from Forest Park Parkway to Dielman - an important stretch of the long envisioned Westport line. 
I'm as big a fixed-rail transit proponent as anyone and have wanted to see that line built not just for the benefit of Maryland Heights, Overland, Olivette, U. City and Clayton, but also the points east that it would connect to. On the other hand, the County has had 25+ years to implement a Westport line . They've had the money for it - Prop A - for a decade. They've got a great deal of existing surface ROW for it (much moreso than Cross County). But the political will/leadership has never been there. Westfall, Dooley, Stenger and Page (the last 3 of whom had Prop A money) just never got behind it and made it happen. 
So, it's petty, but part of me thinks that if someone wants to put up an office park/strip mall with a giant parking garage, fine. Maybe better that than it serving as a 14-acre OfficeMax for another 25 years while the County expresses more half-assed interest in transit investment. 

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PostApr 25, 2020#15

Rendering of the hotel portion and rendering of the garage. I think it's time to rename this thread "Olive Crossing - Olive & 170".

Also, the BizJournal says the cost of the development is now $75 Million. 

A few more tidbits...
- JEMA is the architect on the office portions.
- CD Cos. & R|5 Design Agency is designing the retail portion.
- Springfield based O'Reilly Hospitality Management will help develop and manage the hotel.
- Up to 50,000 square feet of retail
- 160-room, 106,000-square-foot hotel (Element and Courtyard dual brand)
- Up to 300,000 square feet of office space. 
- The project grew from 100,000SF to more than 400,000SF with a majority of the growth from a larger office footprint.
- Retail and office spaces are flexible to what tenants need.

Other information from the KDG website...
- Each hotel will have separate lobbies and patio areas. 
- Each hotel will be 80 rooms.
- 50 surface parking spaces for the hotel.
- 120 garage spaces for the hotel.

Link to BizJournal: https://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/new ... 5E21661416 
Link to KDG: https://www.kdgi.com/post/olive-crossin ... rand-hotel
Link to the Olive Crossing website: https://www.olivecrossing.com 

Renderings...
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PostApr 25, 2020#16

moorlander wrote:
Apr 20, 2020
Isn’t the Westport Metro line supposed to run through this area, someday?  
I would guess that Metro (or whoever) will have to re-study the Westport alignment since things have changed quite a bit since the idea was originally unveiled. I don't really have a reasonable idea to replace the preferred alignment, but I can recommend these things (that are expensive)...

1. Make it elevated through the development.
2. Make a tunnel that goes under the project.
3. Make it run in the middle of 170 for a short period of time.
4. Choose a different alignment that runs on the other side of the highway.

From the site plan, it doesn't appear the potential metro line was taken into consideration which honestly isn't surprising. 

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PostApr 25, 2020#17

chriss752 wrote:
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moorlander wrote:
Apr 20, 2020
Isn’t the Westport Metro line supposed to run through this area, someday?  
I would guess that Metro (or whoever) will have to re-study the Westport alignment since things have changed quite a bit since the idea was originally unveiled. I don't really have a reasonable idea to replace the preferred alignment, but I can recommend these things (that are expensive)...

1. Make it elevated through the development.
2. Make a tunnel that goes under the project.
3. Make it run in the middle of 170 for a short period of time.
4. Choose a different alignment that runs on the other side of the highway.

From the site plan, it doesn't appear the potential metro line was taken into consideration which honestly isn't surprising. 
I think any of those alternatives would make it economically infeasible. One of the main strengths of the Westport line was the pre-existing right-of-way, especially after all of the tunneling, elevation and associated expenses that arose from Cross County's alignment. 
I think it would have been good for the County (particularly Clayton) and City. But it's not like Olivette, Overland or Maryland Heights have ever advocated for such an extension. 
So it could ultimately be an 8-story parking garage that prevents the possibility of an 8-mile light rail extension. Brutal. 

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PostApr 25, 2020#18

^ I don’t think this would completely kill a Westport Metro extension. Cross County utilized several tunnels and cuts for its construction. Much of the proposed Westport alignment wouldn’t require that as is. I would think a short tunnel that dips under this development and Olive (with a station under Olive, similar to the Skinker or Big Bend station) and then reappears in the proposed ROW as it heads toward Page would be doable. It would certainly add some cost...but I wouldn’t think enough to kill whole line. I would also think you could run trains above ground behind the buildings that front 170 in this project...it’s the retail and parking section along Olive that would need to be addressed.

It could even bypass this development and continue in the 170 ROW a little further north and then turn west near Coldwater Creek and link up with the proposed Page alignment that way too. Though I wouldn’t say that’s ideal.

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PostJul 08, 2020#19

Demo is complete. 

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PostJul 17, 2020#20

I wonder how much the pandemic factored into his plans of starting demolition. I guess maybe he was making sure the project actually moved forward.

There's always the possibility that the station might be built across 170, since Novus has either acquired a lot of land or made sure that it has no tenants.

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PostMar 10, 2021#21

Looks like an office building and parking garage has been replaced with a residential building called "The Lugano". This was on the JEMA website up until this morning, so it must've been a mistake on their part to publish these. Rendering dates put this as being made on November 16th, 2020.

Seems like a solid new component.










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PostMar 10, 2021#22

She's pointing at the apartments in Clayton that have better views than a parking lot and a freeway. 

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PostMar 10, 2021#23

chriss752 wrote:
Mar 10, 2021
Looks like an office building and parking garage has been replaced with a residential building called "The Lugano". This was on the JEMA website up until this morning, so it must've been a mistake on their part to publish these. Rendering dates put this as being made on November 16th, 2020.

Seems like a solid new component.









Nice find! I guess the office in the background "confirms" it's for this project. I wonder if this is just an alternate, since in November we didn't know how the pandemic was going to go.

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PostMar 10, 2021#24

BellaVilla wrote:
Mar 10, 2021
She's pointing at the apartments in Clayton that have better views than a parking lot and a freeway. 
Hey, look, there's Chevy's

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PostApr 19, 2021#25

The changes adding a residential part are confirmed. There have already been several meetings.

https://www.olivettemo.com/DocumentCent ... 021?bidId=

https://www.olivettemo.com/DocumentCent ... 021?bidId=

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