Can you back this up with any kind of numbers, though? I haven't head of any BRT system on the planet that hasn't been beset by problems and pie in the sky predictions of success. It's the 21st century equivalent of the Springfield Monorail from what I've seen.stldotage wrote: ↑1:38 PM - 2 days ago. You fundamentally see BRT as an inferior "product" and I think it will deliver every benefit that its next-most-likely-to-have-been-built model (Green Line Metrolink as proposed pre-Spencer) would have at half the cost and double the service area.
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LA, Bogota, Mexico City, etc all get high ridership on their BRTPeterXCV wrote:^The Metrobus system in Mexico City is impressive.
"On the planet" is a stretch. Latin America has some pretty good BRTs, but there's reasons for that and in some cases it looks good just because it's on a corridor that demands a metro. Lots of factors you'd have to control for that ultimately reveal why these BRTs appear so good.
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At this point, since we decided to scrap all the work we had on the street running rail, why not go back to developing the previous 25 years of metrolink studies that worked through branches off of the existing metro link and the UP right of way that would be dedicated rail that weaves through south city
Then, study a streetcar that connects downtown with Soulard
Increase bus frequencies. BRT is not what voters wanted and would not be the improvement the region, city and downtown needs
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Then, study a streetcar that connects downtown with Soulard
Increase bus frequencies. BRT is not what voters wanted and would not be the improvement the region, city and downtown needs
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If we used the UP right of way that runs through south city shouldn't it be as easy as adding heavy rail cars and creating subway stops at the appropriate locations? It seems like the cost would insignificant compared to light rail.
You now have to build a crash barrier between the right rail and passenger (or run them at different times of day ala San Diego)STLAPTS wrote:If we used the UP right of way that runs through south city shouldn't it be as easy as adding heavy rail cars and creating subway stops at the appropriate locations? It seems like the cost would insignificant compared to light rail.
I'd personally like to see a cost estimate for buying that ROW and making it a light metro style like the current MetroLink. Would also be interested in a cost estimate on upgrading it to do what they do in San Diego.
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San Diego shares the tracks with freight but freight only runs over night.StlAlex wrote:I'd personally like to see a cost estimate for buying that ROW and making it a light metro style like the current MetroLink. Would also be interested in a cost estimate on upgrading it to do what they do in San Diego.
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Any idea what the cost savings would be ? It definitely seems worth discussion especially since it hits so many different South City neighborhoods and is grade separated.
You'd make a deal like that here too. Afaik most traffic on that branch happens at night too anyway.ldai_phs wrote:San Diego shares the tracks with freight but freight only runs over night.StlAlex wrote:I'd personally like to see a cost estimate for buying that ROW and making it a light metro style like the current MetroLink. Would also be interested in a cost estimate on upgrading it to do what they do in San Diego.
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