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City - County and Bi-State talking about the Metrolink expansion. Hopefully the NS expansion becomes a reality and we don’t lose this mega opportunity to get it done with money that wasn’t even planned a few months ago!




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Stltoday - Jones hopes federal infrastructure bill provides jolt for MetroLink expansion

https://news.stlpublicradio.org/governm ... -expansion

If Tishuara Jones manages to build (or even start) North South Metrolink I will take back every bad thing I ever said about her.

^If she and Page are both backing it it just might have a chance of happening.

Ebsy wrote:If Tishuara Jones manages to build (or even start) North South Metrolink I will take back every bad thing I ever said about her.

I second your comment and will vote for her if she starts this project! Shoot I’ll make my whole family vote for her.


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Ebsy wrote: ↑

Nov 17, 2021

If Tishuara Jones manages to build (or even start) North South Metrolink I will take back every bad thing I ever said about her.

Same here

This is the best opportunity to make this actually happen we've ever had.  Federal money for public transit is flowing, greener transportation is being pushed.

Let's get this thing finally funded and built!

Feel like I've been hearing N/S MetroLink expansion talk my entire life at this point.

A 15 month alternatives study for NS will start soon, the end product will be build NS metro link or build NS bus rapid transit..

What on earth are the consultants going to spend 15 months doing? Criminal.

15 months to study the same route that has already been studied multiple times? What a grift. What I would do to see this city do something decisive for once

It's a stall tactic.

Another study? Isn’t this the Third or fourth one?


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JJ Taino wrote:Another study? Isn’t this the Third or fourth one?


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I guess they need to re-price and re-calculate to include the potential county lines. The last study looked at BRT and found it to not meet their needs.

ldai_phs wrote:

JJ Taino wrote:Another study? Isn’t this the Third or fourth one?


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I guess they need to re-price and re-calculate to include the potential county lines. The last study looked at BRT and found it to not meet their needs.

Ok. Thanks.


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JJ Taino wrote:

ldai_phs wrote:

JJ Taino wrote:Another study? Isn’t this the Third or fourth one?


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I guess they need to re-price and re-calculate to include the potential county lines. The last study looked at BRT and found it to not meet their needs.

Ok. Thanks.


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The group working on the current study was involved with the 2018 and 2008 studies. Changing the project to include the county seems to really drive the need for 15months of a new study. Are we looking at a 2030 EIS?

Best case scenario timeline for NS metrolink

This study ends summer 2023
Political leaders chew on it for 6 months

Environmental study 2024 and 2025

Engineering/design 2026 & 2027

Right of way 2028

Construction start mid 2029

Line opens 2032

(This is without delays)

N-S Metrolink talk is getting so tiring. It's obvious the region has neither the will or leadership to build a first class LRT system. They need to just come out and say they are building the watered down BRT and end the debate. I think what they fear is that they've promised N-S for the last 20 years and even got a tax passed, so there will be a substantial backlash when BRT is presented as the solution. Sadly it will be racialized and polarizing hysteria at best.

dbInSouthCity wrote:Best case scenario timeline for NS metrolink

This study ends summer 2023
Political leaders chew on it for 6 months

Environmental study 2024 and 2025

Engineering/design 2026 & 2027

Right of way 2028

Construction start mid 2029

Line opens 2032

(This is without delays)

Thanks for sharing that timeline. Definitely helpful.


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Tough to get excited. Feels like it's been 10 years away for 15 years.

Is this a product of our regions transit governance?

Bi-State won’t lead expansion planning. They’ve always made it clear that they’re not enabled to do so.

So instead we get transit planning via politics. A new adaptation requiring a plan with each new administration. Each version only feasible when methodically timed with federal investment.

We want steady expansion based on actual transit needs? Enable Bi-State to plan/implement their vision regardless of administration.

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Jan 20, 2022

Is this a product of our regions transit governance?

Bi-State won’t lead expansion planning. They’ve always made it clear that they’re not enabled to do so.

So instead we get transit planning via politics. A new adaptation requiring a plan with each new administration. Each version only feasible when methodically timed with federal investment.

We want steady expansion based on actual transit needs? Enable Bi-State to plan/implement their vision regardless of administration.

Letting politicians plan the expansion / development rather than the actual transit agency is such a shot in the foot to any consistent or true long-term transit plan.

Enables them to use mass transit for political points instead of actually doing what's best for the residents of the city.  Is rail popular? Let's do a study that by the time is completed there might be a new administration that opposes it.  Money+Time wasted.  Is rail not the most popular idea because of other projects like Loop Trolley or NIMBY'ers?  Let's ignore it or bash it for political clout and hold back the region.