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PostNov 16, 2021#1476

City - County and Bi-State talking about the Metrolink expansion. Hopefully the NS expansion becomes a reality and we don’t lose this mega opportunity to get it done with money that wasn’t even planned a few months ago!




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PostNov 16, 2021#1477

Stltoday - Jones hopes federal infrastructure bill provides jolt for MetroLink expansion

https://news.stlpublicradio.org/governm ... -expansion

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PostNov 17, 2021#1478

If Tishuara Jones manages to build (or even start) North South Metrolink I will take back every bad thing I ever said about her.

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PostNov 17, 2021#1479

^If she and Page are both backing it it just might have a chance of happening.

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PostNov 17, 2021#1480

Ebsy wrote:If Tishuara Jones manages to build (or even start) North South Metrolink I will take back every bad thing I ever said about her.
I second your comment and will vote for her if she starts this project! Shoot I’ll make my whole family vote for her.


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PostNov 17, 2021#1481

Ebsy wrote:
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If Tishuara Jones manages to build (or even start) North South Metrolink I will take back every bad thing I ever said about her.
Same here

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PostNov 17, 2021#1482

This is the best opportunity to make this actually happen we've ever had.  Federal money for public transit is flowing, greener transportation is being pushed.

Let's get this thing finally funded and built!

Feel like I've been hearing N/S MetroLink expansion talk my entire life at this point.

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PostNov 17, 2021#1483

If we can get N/S Metro and Brickline Greenway routes funded, this will be one heck of a decade. 

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PostJan 20, 2022#1484

A 15 month alternatives study for NS will start soon, the end product will be build NS metro link or build NS bus rapid transit..

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PostJan 20, 2022#1485

What on earth are the consultants going to spend 15 months doing? Criminal.

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PostJan 20, 2022#1486

15 months to study the same route that has already been studied multiple times? What a grift. What I would do to see this city do something decisive for once

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PostJan 20, 2022#1487

It's a stall tactic.

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PostJan 20, 2022#1488

Another study? Isn’t this the Third or fourth one?


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PostJan 20, 2022#1489

JJ Taino wrote:Another study? Isn’t this the Third or fourth one?


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I guess they need to re-price and re-calculate to include the potential county lines. The last study looked at BRT and found it to not meet their needs.

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PostJan 20, 2022#1490

ldai_phs wrote:
JJ Taino wrote:Another study? Isn’t this the Third or fourth one?


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I guess they need to re-price and re-calculate to include the potential county lines. The last study looked at BRT and found it to not meet their needs.
Ok. Thanks.


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PostJan 20, 2022#1491

Here’s the presentation they are talking about


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PostJan 20, 2022#1492

JJ Taino wrote:
ldai_phs wrote:
JJ Taino wrote:Another study? Isn’t this the Third or fourth one?


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I guess they need to re-price and re-calculate to include the potential county lines. The last study looked at BRT and found it to not meet their needs.
Ok. Thanks.


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The group working on the current study was involved with the 2018 and 2008 studies. Changing the project to include the county seems to really drive the need for 15months of a new study. Are we looking at a 2030 EIS?

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PostJan 20, 2022#1493

Best case scenario timeline for NS metrolink

This study ends summer 2023
Political leaders chew on it for 6 months

Environmental study 2024 and 2025

Engineering/design 2026 & 2027

Right of way 2028

Construction start mid 2029

Line opens 2032

(This is without delays)

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PostJan 20, 2022#1494

N-S Metrolink talk is getting so tiring. It's obvious the region has neither the will or leadership to build a first class LRT system. They need to just come out and say they are building the watered down BRT and end the debate. I think what they fear is that they've promised N-S for the last 20 years and even got a tax passed, so there will be a substantial backlash when BRT is presented as the solution. Sadly it will be racialized and polarizing hysteria at best.

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PostJan 20, 2022#1495

dbInSouthCity wrote:Best case scenario timeline for NS metrolink

This study ends summer 2023
Political leaders chew on it for 6 months

Environmental study 2024 and 2025

Engineering/design 2026 & 2027

Right of way 2028

Construction start mid 2029

Line opens 2032

(This is without delays)
Thanks for sharing that timeline. Definitely helpful.


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PostJan 20, 2022#1496

Tough to get excited. Feels like it's been 10 years away for 15 years.

PostJan 20, 2022#1497

By SeattleNative

Nextstl - St. Louis to study north-south rapid transit ... again

https://nextstl.com/2022/01/st-louis-to ... sit-again/

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PostJan 20, 2022#1498

Dennis - what would a timeline for a gold-standard BRT be? 

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PostJan 20, 2022#1499

Is this a product of our regions transit governance?

Bi-State won’t lead expansion planning. They’ve always made it clear that they’re not enabled to do so.

So instead we get transit planning via politics. A new adaptation requiring a plan with each new administration. Each version only feasible when methodically timed with federal investment.

We want steady expansion based on actual transit needs? Enable Bi-State to plan/implement their vision regardless of administration.

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PostJan 20, 2022#1500

addxb2 wrote:
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Is this a product of our regions transit governance?

Bi-State won’t lead expansion planning. They’ve always made it clear that they’re not enabled to do so.

So instead we get transit planning via politics. A new adaptation requiring a plan with each new administration. Each version only feasible when methodically timed with federal investment.

We want steady expansion based on actual transit needs? Enable Bi-State to plan/implement their vision regardless of administration.
Letting politicians plan the expansion / development rather than the actual transit agency is such a shot in the foot to any consistent or true long-term transit plan.

Enables them to use mass transit for political points instead of actually doing what's best for the residents of the city.  Is rail popular? Let's do a study that by the time is completed there might be a new administration that opposes it.  Money+Time wasted.  Is rail not the most popular idea because of other projects like Loop Trolley or NIMBY'ers?  Let's ignore it or bash it for political clout and hold back the region.

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