All of you guys out there calling for better quality infill should check out the new townhouses on the Southeast corner of West Pine and Boyle. Really nice. They fit in perfectly, yet have some nice modern features. Very tall, handsome facades. Nice detailing. Good density. And they seem to be all brick. Well, OK, the rear portion is not quite finished yet, but even if they put siding back there, nobody will ever see it.
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Here are some pics I took of this project a couple of weeks ago. These pictures were taken on West Pine, the part facing Boyle hasn't started yet:
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Not bad, although the houses could be a little bit closer to eachother. Regardless, these are pretty nice quality.
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STLgasm wrote:I like it too! One vacant lot down, 49,999 to go!
I think the city should go to every house in the area and if it is structurally unsound or just looks really bad, then renovate it like these houses. Your only talking maybe 5-10,000 a house and not all of them are bad. It would go a long way toward making the city look better.
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Catlin Townhomes at West Pine and Boyle (can someone change the thread title?)
The latest: three of the seven units have sold, though I don't believe any are completed for move in (the pics below were taken on 12/10/06). The remaining homes are:
4264 West Pine Boulevard 3,173sf $629,900
42 N. Boyle Avenue 2,739sf $509,900
40 N. Boyle Avenue 2,663sf $457,900
36 N. Boyle Avenue 2,774sf $529,900
I really like these homes and think they fit in well. I especially like that the Boyle street front wasn't ignored - eventhough the coner building does face West Pine (this probably makes sense). The only thing I noticed of concern was that the West Pine home fronts do not line up with existing homes - they are closer to the street. Looking at the site, I imagine this was done to accomodate parking behind the West Pine homes while maximizing the number of units on Boyle.
On a related note - anyone know more about the expansion across the street? I forgot the proper name, but it's the building that houses the police computing systems/records. Anyway, my wife and I looked at condos on Boyle between West Pine and Lindell earlier this year and didn't like that the balcony overlooked the surface lot on the northwest corner of West Pine/Boyle. Our realtor told us in an unconvincing manner that a "water feature" was planned for the corner but that the city owned the lot and has no plans to get ride of it because the law enforcement center is the cite for some weekly or monthly collaborative meeting among multiple municiple agencies. Hmm - seems like the lot could have a higher use and that the meeting could be help somewhere else. So the third picture shows an expansion of this building, but it's not parking.
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The latest: three of the seven units have sold, though I don't believe any are completed for move in (the pics below were taken on 12/10/06). The remaining homes are:
4264 West Pine Boulevard 3,173sf $629,900
42 N. Boyle Avenue 2,739sf $509,900
40 N. Boyle Avenue 2,663sf $457,900
36 N. Boyle Avenue 2,774sf $529,900
I really like these homes and think they fit in well. I especially like that the Boyle street front wasn't ignored - eventhough the coner building does face West Pine (this probably makes sense). The only thing I noticed of concern was that the West Pine home fronts do not line up with existing homes - they are closer to the street. Looking at the site, I imagine this was done to accomodate parking behind the West Pine homes while maximizing the number of units on Boyle.
On a related note - anyone know more about the expansion across the street? I forgot the proper name, but it's the building that houses the police computing systems/records. Anyway, my wife and I looked at condos on Boyle between West Pine and Lindell earlier this year and didn't like that the balcony overlooked the surface lot on the northwest corner of West Pine/Boyle. Our realtor told us in an unconvincing manner that a "water feature" was planned for the corner but that the city owned the lot and has no plans to get ride of it because the law enforcement center is the cite for some weekly or monthly collaborative meeting among multiple municiple agencies. Hmm - seems like the lot could have a higher use and that the meeting could be help somewhere else. So the third picture shows an expansion of this building, but it's not parking.
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I noticed that addition to REJIS too - how did that thing get approved?
I've always been kind of surprised that no one has redeveloped the old one-story nursing home on the opposite corner - it's a tremendous waste of space and it doesn't fit in with its surroundings one bit.
I've always been kind of surprised that no one has redeveloped the old one-story nursing home on the opposite corner - it's a tremendous waste of space and it doesn't fit in with its surroundings one bit.
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Only two units lefts - per craigslist posting. Good news, as these are $500,000 units.
DeBaliviere wrote:I noticed that addition to REJIS too - how did that thing get approved?
I've always been kind of surprised that no one has redeveloped the old one-story nursing home on the opposite corner - it's a tremendous waste of space and it doesn't fit in with its surroundings one bit.
I've always kind of liked the 60s architecture of that nursing home. If it were anywhere else I'd definitely say keep it. We don't have too many good examples of that style in St. Louis, and we've already lost some of the better ones -- The old West County Famous-Barr truly should have been preserved. It looked like it was straight out of Brasilia!
But the West Pine nursing home is only one story in an area that needs nothing shorter than 2-3 floors. So if somebody wants to tear it down, I won't lose much sleep.
DeBaliviere wrote:I noticed that addition to REJIS too - how did that thing get approved?
The REJIS building is just about done now. It actually looks pretty good. It's come a long way from the gray box in Grover's post of 4 months ago. Those of you calling for more modern architecture in historic neighborhoods should check it out.
I agree with Framer...the addition by Artcuris looks nice. And as far as the nursing home on the opposite corner goes, if the Roberts Brothers screw-up the old Days Inn on the Park (on Lindell), which they claim will be renovated into a "boutique hotel", there'a always this nursing home, which could make a great retro-hip hotel. Plop a glass box in the huge courtyard for a lounge. It's a little off the beaten path, though...