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Next Meeting on McEagle Project Thursday May, 21

Next Meeting on McEagle Project Thursday May, 21

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PostMay 16, 2009#1

Here's the date, time and location of the next meeting that Alderwoman Marlene Davis and Alderwoman April Ford-Griffin are hosting on the McEagle project.



Thursday, May 21

7:00 p.m.

Central Baptist Church, 2842 Washington Boulevard



This meeting will be open to the public.

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PostMay 20, 2009#2

:x Not going to be able to make it due to a softball game, please tell me someone on this board is going to attend and fill the rest of us in.

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PostMay 21, 2009#3

I'll be there and I'm sure there will be numerous other attending the unveiling.

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PostMay 21, 2009#4

so this is about blairmont right?



Residents can learn more tonight about developer Paul McKee’s expansive corporate, retail and residential development plan for North St. Louis.



McKee said his plans include 3.5 million square feet of office space, 1 million square feet of retail space, 1 million square feet of service tech space, four corporate campuses and 10,000 houses in a dozen different residential neighborhoods.



"We want to give neighbors a chance to look at what we've been working on for five years," said McKee, who plans to file a redevelopment plan with the city next week and expects the planning process with the city to take six months.



As McKee and his company bought up North Side properties over the past five years for a total of 930 parcels, residents raised fears over eminent domain and what they called a plan "to bulldoze the ghetto."



But McKee said he had to stay quiet about his plans for the properties to avoid a run-up in sale prices. "It's a dilemma," he said. "When people like me buy ground, the price will change if they know it's you. We've been buying for five years and now it's time to bring our vision to the community."



http://stlouis.bizjournals.com/stlouis/ ... ily43.html

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PostMay 21, 2009#5

4 corporate campuses!?



Noooooooooooooooooo



Hello suburbia.

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PostMay 22, 2009#6

What is wrong with you. Corporate campuses linked to transit networks and especially if he pushes the future Metrolink line is exactly what central cities need. They need jobs and high enough density residential neighborhoods linked by quality mass transit and that is what North St. Louis could get if people learn to compromise.

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PostMay 22, 2009#7

Who said the corporate campuses were gonna be suburban Miguel?

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PostMay 22, 2009#8

I'm following urbanreviewstl on twitter and he mentioned a trolley down jefferson ave. I was just in the area the other day and thought the same thing. Its a very wide street. Overall I'm still on the fence about things but hopeful. What metrolink stops are closest to Jefferson Ave? Also is a north-south trolley line along Jefferson Ave equal or better than the proposed north-south metrolink line?

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PostMay 22, 2009#9

^^^ Maybe not as efficient in transportation as a real light rail line, but it has been proven that trolleys stabilize neighborhoods, raise property values, and spark pedestrian scaled development. I would like to see the city use the original metrolink alignment as a spine of a rail system that is made up of trolley lines that feed into it. Either that or use some of the old rail right of ways.

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PostMay 22, 2009#10

Any news? I need to see some pics!

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PostMay 22, 2009#11

migueltejada wrote:4 corporate campuses!?



Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo



Hello suburbia.


"Corporate Campus" does not equal "suburbia".

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PostMay 22, 2009#12

But it can. I can tell you that the 22nd street portion of the plan is not a campus in the suburban way. Pruitt-Igo could be.

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PostMay 22, 2009#13

migueltejada wrote:4 corporate campuses!?



Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo



Hello suburbia.


Thanks for screwing up the forum layout and forcing everybody to horizontal-scroll to read anything on this page. It's really worth it for such an insightful comment.

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PostMay 23, 2009#14

Mastercard is on a 50 acre campus. Express Scripts is on a 30-acre campus.



These campuses could be problematic in an urban setting.



Now, a 40-story building is another story.

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PostMay 23, 2009#15

http://www.stlbeacon.org/development/gr ... evelopment


Grand vision collides with neighborhood mistrust at meeting on north St. Louis redevelopment Print E-mail

By Dale Singer, Beacon staff



Posted 10:50 p.m. Thur., May 21 - After developer Paul McKee presented his grand vision for regeneration of a large chunk of north St. Louis (see mapy at the end of this sotry), residents of the area and others attending a public meeting Thursday night broke up into small groups to discuss the project.



There, one man quickly focused on what may be the biggest obstacle that McKee faces:



"What kind of guarantees can you give us that this isn't just a fantasy?"



Such skepticism was common among the 150 or so people in the crowd, about evenly divided between black and white. McKee himself acknowledged that he owed people who live in the area an apology for keeping his acquisition of property under the radar for so long. As he explained his approach, a heckler shouted denunciations laced with f-bombs, but the developer stood his ground.



"I didn't believe I could have purchased the land we did unless we did it the way we did," McKee told the crowd.



"I was not going to stand up in front of you unless we had purchased enough land. I didn't want to bring it to you unless we had enough land to do something with it."

"If St. Louis is to be great again," he said, "to really grow, what does it take? It takes jobs.



"We believe the north side is the gateway to the future of greatness in this city. We believe the north side is going to lead, not follow."



He noted that some of the projects he has developed in the area, including the 55-acre MasterCard complex in St. Charles County and the Express Scripts headquarters, on 25 acres east of Lambert Field, could not have been located in the city because there was not enough land available. But he also said that his new project would not try to replicate those developments.



"We are not going to try to bring something from St. Charles County or St. Clair County into the city of St. Louis," McKee said. "That doesn't work."



McKee, who lives in west St. Louis County, noted that his grandfather was a conductor on the Cass Avenue streetcar. But he and his colleagues acknowledged that he still has to overcome a reservoir of mistrust. "We are a bunch of white people from West County," he said. "I am white. I get it."


Full story at the link.



-RBB

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PostMay 23, 2009#16

ecoabsence wrote:Mastercard is on a 50 acre campus. Express Scripts is on a 30-acre campus.



These campuses could be problematic in an urban setting.



Now, a 40-story building is another story.


Of course, but McKee has said that such places won't work in the city. Look, in many ways people are seeing (and fearing) what they choose to. If you think developers are bad, well then McKee is bad. If you think that someone should be able to live where they want to live regardless of wealth then you don't like gentrification.

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PostMay 23, 2009#17

For those who didn't attend. Looks like somebody forgot to take his meds in the 1st vid. After watching this I'm pretty much on board with McKee's plan.



Part I:

Part II:

Part III:

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PostMay 23, 2009#18

a 40 story building is not a corporate campus.



A 40 story building is a 40 story building. Campuses are low-med rise, closed off, and WIDE.



I'll believe it when I see it ON THE GROUND.

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PostMay 23, 2009#19

jasontoon wrote:
migueltejada wrote:4 corporate campuses!?



Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo



Hello suburbia.


Thanks for screwing up the forum layout and forcing everybody to horizontal-scroll to read anything on this page. It's really worth it for such an insightful comment.


Fit fine on my screen. But I fixed it anyway.

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PostMay 23, 2009#20

^ Well Matt you must have a very large screen! Good for you. :mrgreen:



Anyway, can we all just post on the "Blairmont" thread and maybe a mod can change the title of that one to "NorthSide (formerly Blairmont)"?