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More Development for The Hill?

More Development for The Hill?

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PostJul 20, 2007#1

The Business Journal is reporting that a 13.3 acre tract near Kingshighway and 44 is up for sale - it's the industrial complex across from Rigazzi's on Daggett. The existing building will most likely be torn down for a new mixed-use development, the exact makeup of which is still unknown. The article says that the parcel could accomodate up to 500 units of housing.

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PostJul 20, 2007#2

I saw a plan for this site a few years ago that included lofts above retail in the existing building across from Rigazzi's, a several buildings of townhouses, and new single-family homes. The plan was very dense and looked great. Extensive sitework is necessary to get this site ready for residential, so I hope the seller's asking price doesn't prevent the property from being redeveloped soon.

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PostJul 20, 2007#3

This sounds like it could potentially be a very cool area. They could really try to do something with the Kingshighway bridge and the area underneath it. The bridge and the traffic in that area is such a mess. I'd love to see it a little more coherant. Since there is so much going on in the hill, and even along the stretch of Shaw right there. There's a coffee house, a deli, and a pizzeria. Then there's Rigazzis.

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PostJul 20, 2007#4

The potential for the site is pretty high. If we had our transit funding plans setup we could be looking at something like this:







Sigh...

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PostJul 20, 2007#5

Bischoff is a cool street name.

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PostJul 20, 2007#6

Doug wrote:Bischoff is a cool street name.


It was named after Eric Bischoff, the former leader of the NWO.

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PostJul 20, 2007#7

The Central Scrutinizer wrote:
Doug wrote:Bischoff is a cool street name.


It was named after Eric Bischoff, the former leader of the NWO.


NWO = Bischoff, Eazy-E, Ice Cube, and Dr. Dre.

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PostJul 20, 2007#8

Hollywood Hulk Hogan, Scott Hall....

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PostJul 23, 2007#9

I hope they don't tear down the old warehouses. Unless the buildings proposed are better than what currently exists, I really hope they opt to rehab. I could see some in stl advocate tearing them down for crappy vinyl sided "townhouses", which would be my nightmare.

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PostJul 23, 2007#10

I agree. However, there is a lot of vinyl on the Hill and you know, it looks fine because people put a lot of effort into maintaining their yards and homes.

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PostJul 23, 2007#11

bpe235 wrote:
The Central Scrutinizer wrote:
Doug wrote:Bischoff is a cool street name.


It was named after Eric Bischoff, the former leader of the NWO.


NWO = Bischoff, Eazy-E, Ice Cube, and Dr. Dre.


That is badass, Bischoff is the best street in St. Louis.

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PostJul 23, 2007#12

I'd like to see something tall--a few stories taller than the bridge at its highest point. From the bridge there's a great view DT. I'd like to see a developer capitalize on that.



Also, I'd like to see the old walkways on the bridge reopened, cleaned upa and well-lit as part of the pan.

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PostJul 23, 2007#13

bpe235 wrote:NWO = Bischoff, Eazy-E, Ice Cube, and Dr. Dre.


You forgot MC Ren. :)

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PostJul 23, 2007#14

bpe235 wrote:
The Central Scrutinizer wrote:
Doug wrote:Bischoff is a cool street name.


It was named after Eric Bischoff, the former leader of the NWO.


NWO = Bischoff, Eazy-E, Ice Cube, and Dr. Dre.


I think you're one letter off on the last 3.

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PostJul 23, 2007#15

^ thems was jokes, I was foo'n yo azz

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PostJul 23, 2007#16

shadrach wrote:I'd like to see something tall--a few stories taller than the bridge at its highest point. From the bridge there's a great view DT. I'd like to see a developer capitalize on that.



Also, I'd like to see the old walkways on the bridge reopened, cleaned upa and well-lit as part of the pan.




All great ideas. One might even hope that such a tall building could have a variety of benefits. If a new structure adjacent to the viaduct were at least as tall as the viaduct, then you could place a park on the top level of the building, which would be at Kingshighway street level. If the building were taller than the viaduct you could design a building with street level retail both on Daggett and Kingshighway. So many possibilities.

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PostJul 26, 2007#17

What about another Target?

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PostNov 20, 2007#18

Per the Business Journal the 13 acre site is being purchased for $15.9M and can accomodate 500+ residential units (one more reason the UPR line should be used for Metro expansion - TOD density!, but that's really another thread).



The story also mentions a 26 acre parcel at I-44/Hampton currently owned by the city and used by the streets department that they would like to open to development.

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PostNov 21, 2007#19

Accomodate up to 500+ on 13 acres.



That's 38 units and acre. Could this be a mid-rise opportunity?

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PostNov 21, 2007#20

The real estate agent specifically mentioned the opportunity for a dense development. It's one of the few places with great access to the Hill and Tower Grove Park/Botanical Garden that could have a mid-rise/high-density development. You're close to Forest Park/BJC/WU and have great access to I-44 and I-64.

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PostNov 23, 2007#21

A bit off topic, but does anyone know if the section of the Kingshighway viaduct that runs along this property is still needed? If not then I would think tearing it down would give the site better visibility from the street.

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PostNov 24, 2007#22

southcitygent wrote:A bit off topic, but does anyone know if the section of the Kingshighway viaduct that runs along this property is still needed? If not then I would think tearing it down would give the site better visibility from the street.


No!!! I think the old rusty viaduct is full of character. I believe the metal sheds on either side of the viaduct were streetcar platforms, but I'm not sure.



How could we even think of ruining this utterly perfect scene:




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PostNov 24, 2007#23

^You'll be able to enjoy for a while longer, but that is on the City's list of priority bridge replacements. There's no funding committed yet. I doubt the view will change because of the clearance needed to cross the Union Pacific line.

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PostNov 24, 2007#24

Grover wrote:Per the Business Journal the 13 acre site is being purchased for $15.9M and can accomodate 500+ residential units (one more reason the UPR line should be used for Metro expansion - TOD density!, but that's really another thread).



The story also mentions a 26 acre parcel at I-44/Hampton currently owned by the city and used by the streets department that they would like to open to development.
Sorry, no BJ access at the moment. Who is the purchaser?

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PostNov 24, 2007#25

jlblues wrote:Sorry, no BJ access at the moment. Who is the purchaser?


I'm sorry to hear that.

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